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Post by nica575 on Sept 2, 2014 7:05:17 GMT -5
I'm sorry for OT, but what happened to humanity these days? First leaked private photos and balming the victims, now Cee-Lo Green. Why people do things like that? Why people think that when you are famous woman they can stomp on you and use you like a toy? Or why you think that when you are famous man your stupid and terrible views about rape are justified? I'm sorry for talking about this here, but after to many depressing discussions I needed the place to just be sad for a moment. I understand you are upset, nonchallance, and I agree. Cee-Lo is a creep, but maybe we can keep our site just for Adam related things. There is a thread for social action I believe. |
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Post by nonchallance on Sept 2, 2014 7:16:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry for OT, but what happened to humanity these days? First leaked private photos and balming the victims, now Cee-Lo Green. Why people do things like that? Why people think that when you are famous woman they can stomp on you and use you like a toy? Or why you think that when you are famous man your stupid and terrible views about rape are justified? I'm sorry for talking about this here, but after to many depressing discussions I needed the place to just be sad for a moment. I understand you are upset, nonchallance, and I agree. Cee-Lo is a creep, but maybe we can keep our site just for Adam related things. There is a thread for social action I believe. Thinking about that more we maybe should to be aware that this can be more Adam related than we colud realize. He is a famous person and every of those things can happend to him at any time. As bridgeymah observed there is problem with to many informations, but I think the problem is with to many private informations about famous people - about their life, their views at certain problems. Boundaries are constantly being exceeded and we start to feel that we have right to know everything about them or demand their views about problems, when celebs are not qualified to have meaningful opinions about everything and sometimes they are just thoughtless, llike we all. We demand from our idol to share our views, but when he don't we are disappointed and angry (reaction to Adam's tweet about guns). When our idol proves to be a thougtless idiot we feel humiliated. We realy require tu much from our idols and then we will destroy them, because they inevitably will make mistakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 7:41:32 GMT -5
But I think Rick is the only one that Adam might seek to replace just due to the location issue. I don't think the location is the MAIN issue with RJ  I don't either and he became his drummer, not because Adam couldn't find anyone in LA, but because he was a friend of Brian's. Adam likes to hire friends of friends. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 7:56:26 GMT -5
I understand you are upset, nonchallance, and I agree. Cee-Lo is a creep, but maybe we can keep our site just for Adam related things. There is a thread for social action I believe. Thinking about that more we maybe should to be aware that this can be more Adam related than we colud realize. He is a famous person and every of those things can happend to him at any time. As bridgeymah observed there is problem with to many informations, but I think the problem is with to many private informations about famous people - about their life, their views at certain problems. Boundaries are constantly being exceeded and we start to feel that we have right to know everything about them or demand their views about problems, when celebs are not qualified to have meaningful opinions about everything and sometimes they are just thoughtless, llike we all. We demand from our idol to share our views, but when he don't we are disappointed and angry (reaction to Adam's tweet about guns). When our idol proves to be a thougtless idiot we feel humiliated. We realy require tu much from our idols and then we will destroy them, because they inevitably will make mistakes. I think you are presuming to speak for a whole lot of people, myself included, on how we view Adam and celebrity in general and I for one would prefer you didn't. Adam is an artist I admire. I admire his creative energy and his talent but I also admire his fierceness in speaking HIS truth. I have never felt anger or disappointment at anything he has said, even when I didn't necessarily agree with what he was saying. I have also never felt humiliated by anything he has said because his opinions are his alone not mine or anyone elses for that matter. |
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Post by theosgma on Sept 2, 2014 7:57:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the prompt response! I was looking for an mp4 download with video and audio. Could you please share a link to Devenlane's download site?  hi red panda The complete shows were compiled with multi cams by Mark. I don't think he did anymore after Japan. Unfortunately some of his videos have been blocked. I am hoping he finds a way to get them up under different names so they are no longer blocked and I am REALLY hoping he does the Australia and New Zealand shows. Please Mark? You can find a place to host them and announce them discreetly here and on queen online. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 8:02:08 GMT -5
I think nonchallance's "we' is a general we, as in we the public. As a 2nd language English speaker and writer, sometimes pronouns are the most difficult to use. I didn't feel she was speaking about me. However, I also don't want to discuss the dirt bag in question either! I do think about Ashley, in all this, though. I follow her on IG and I have a high opinion of her. She seems to have high ethics. Wonder how she reconciles working for him?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 8:03:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the prompt response! I was looking for an mp4 download with video and audio. Could you please share a link to Devenlane's download site? hi red panda The complete shows were compiled with multi cams by Mark. I don't think he did anymore after Japan. Unfortunately some of his videos have been blocked. I am hoping he finds a way to get them up under different names so they are no longer blocked and I am REALLY hoping he does the Australia and New Zealand shows. Please Mark? You can find a place to host them and announce them discreetly here and on queen online. One word! VIMEO!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 8:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by nonchallance on Sept 2, 2014 8:07:13 GMT -5
Thinking about that more we maybe should to be aware that this can be more Adam related than we colud realize. He is a famous person and every of those things can happend to him at any time. As bridgeymah observed there is problem with to many informations, but I think the problem is with to many private informations about famous people - about their life, their views at certain problems. Boundaries are constantly being exceeded and we start to feel that we have right to know everything about them or demand their views about problems, when celebs are not qualified to have meaningful opinions about everything and sometimes they are just thoughtless, llike we all. We demand from our idol to share our views, but when he don't we are disappointed and angry (reaction to Adam's tweet about guns). When our idol proves to be a thougtless idiot we feel humiliated. We realy require tu much from our idols and then we will destroy them, because they inevitably will make mistakes. I think you are presuming to speak for a whole lot of people, myself included, on how we view Adam and celebrity in general and I for one would prefer you didn't. Adam is an artist I admire. I admire his creative energy and his talent but I also admire his fierceness in speaking HIS truth. I have never felt anger or disappointment at anything he has said, even when I didn't necessarily agree with what he was saying. I have also never felt humiliated by anything he has said because his opinions are his alone not mine or anyone elses for that matter. I'm presuming nothing, I think that I just used not those words to say what bothers me that I should, but please forgive me, sometimes translating from polish to english can be very rough, and I'm doing this all the time because I can't think in english. I was talking about bigger phenomenon using Adam as example to whom people here can relate. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 8:08:13 GMT -5
I think nonchallance's "we' is a general we, as in we the public. As a 2nd language English speaker and writer, sometimes pronouns are the most difficult to use. I didn't feel she was speaking about me. However, I also don't want to discuss the dirt bag in question either! I do think about Ashley, in all this, though. I follow her on IG and I have a high opinion of her. She seems to have high ethics. Wonder how she reconciles working for him? I thought she was just hired for his tour, which is now over? |
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