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Post by Buderschnookie on Dec 26, 2014 18:28:20 GMT -5
So you say they were in relationship during the last couple of years, but looser? But my own personal guess would be that both understood the limitations and challenges of their globe trotting situation and decided that going "non exclusive" was the way to go until the situation changed. FWIW (and I am not saying this is the case here) but I know of many, many musicians who are in relatively solid exclusive relationships when they are home but when they are on the road it's don't ask/don't tell. Hell, Brian could write a book about it  "Down in The Dungeon just Peaches and me" is not fictional. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Dec 26, 2014 18:34:54 GMT -5
I was just listening to an interview Bono did with Dave Fanning (Irish DJ) after the release of "Songs of Innocence". In the course of the interview even though they are discussing the songs on the albums they touch on a lot of things about the music industry in general and where things are heading business wise. There is also a lot of talk about creative process, inspirations and how they have managed to survive intact as a group. Much of it may be of interest to those of you who like to learn about the industry. There was a section where Bono discusses motivations and points out as he has many times in the past that an awful lot of "Rock Stars" came out of situations of maternal abandonment of some kind. By contrast many of the Hip Hop stars have in common some kind of paternal abandonment. It got me to thinking about the comparisons of Adam to Elvis. Elvis was a bit of an outlier in that he had a very close loving relationship with his mother and although he lost her relatively early in his career it wouldn't have been the driving factor in him becoming the artist he was. Adam is also very close to his mother and thankfully still has her around. The biggest kind of difference this makes is that much of Adam's art is much more centered around joy and the more positive aspects of love. Even the sadder songs he has written or sung are much more directed towards transcending the negatives. In some ways I think this is part of why some object to him being described as a rock star, because they don't feel he has anger, despair or depression of the typical rock star. Rock stars often spend a lot of time wallowing in their pain and often do their best work when they are really messed up individuals. It's like the rock fans don't feel you are "real" unless your life is a disaster. U2 have often come under the same kind of criticism from rock fans because they never had any intention of staying in the club scene or the garage. They set out from the very beginning to be the biggest band in the world and they didn't just write songs that raged against the machine so to speak they went in and infiltrated the machine both politically and in terms of the industry. Their songs, even the angry ones had love and faith and hope which were very uncool but ultimately what made them a band that mattered. Adam went on tour around the world openly talking about love, acceptance and JOY. People talked about his song segues being cheesy, etc but Glam Nation was a lot like a revival. It was uplifting and encouraging and a celebration of love and community spirit. Not really the "cool" thing. To me Adam, like U2 rides the edge of the mainstream. Never really being accepted by the hipsters and the cool kids but also often shaking up the mainstream in ways people aren't sure they are ready for. Anyway here the link to a soundcloud of the interview. Just the talking without the music. Fanning has a pretty thick Dublin accent and talks really fast so his questions are often hard to understand but Bono is as always a very interesting character. soundcloud.com/u2community/bono-with-dave-fanning-sunday-21st-sept-2014PS: Pretty proud of myself in that in between pontificating and hitting refresh I've managed to go through the pile of receipts on my desk that has been growing since April 2013! ![]()  |
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Post by rihannsu on Dec 26, 2014 18:38:00 GMT -5
There's a reason ex-sex is a thing even in the straight community. Many things contribute to break ups and not all of them have to do with being any less attracted to the other. Couple face many stresses that often overshadow the passion of a relationship and after the breakup when those stresses are no longer there many find themselves rekindling their passions unexpectedly.
I've always been of the opinion that expectation do more to kill relationships than anything else and we don't even always realize what expectations we have. As soon as you declare yourselves a couple not only do you each have expectations about the relationship that aren't always on the same page but you also have the expectations of your friends and family. Add to that in Adam's case the expectations of the fans, the press, the gay marriage movement, etc. and you get a minefield of things to deal with. Because of the "fairytale" nature of their relationship and Adam's outspokenness on marriage equality it was getting to the point where every interview led to questions about whether or not they would be getting married and no matter how Adam answered the question someone was sure to take offense. Some of the Sauli fans thought Adam was being dismissive of Sauli, some of the Adam fans thought Sauli was taking advantage of Adam. I remember my first response to the news of the breakup was "that will stop the marriage questions". In many ways I thought the "breakup" was more for the sake of simplifying things in the press. Part of this is due to having spent the last 14 years on the fringes of several alternative communities that all have varying ideas on what exactly comprises a "relationship". It's really not as simple as who you are or aren't having sex with. Adam is not only a part of the gay community but also the underground tribal art community, the burning man community, etc. I have a friend who once described her "relationships", yes plural, as an "amorphous blob". In that sense I don't think their "relationship" ended. It may have moved in to a non sexual phase or even a friends with benefits phase but I doubt Adam really saw it as an end to anything. They obviously both stayed in contact, Sauli continued to hang out with Adam's best friend Danielle and shared an apartment with another of Adam's close friends. But the press would not have handled that kind of relationship change without all kinds of drama and speculation. There was a lot of tabloid focus on their relationship that could have led to them being regular tabloid fodder the way Brangelina are regardless of the true nature of their connection. Much simpler for the press and public at large to see them as separate individuals.
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Post by satisfied on Dec 26, 2014 18:39:33 GMT -5
Adam went on tour around the world openly talking about love, acceptance and JOY. People talked about his song segues being cheesy, etc but Glam Nation was a lot like a revival. It was uplifting and encouraging and a celebration of love and community spirit. Not really the "cool" thing. To me Adam, like U2 rides the edge of the mainstream. Never really being accepted by the hipsters and the cool kids but also often shaking up the mainstream in ways people aren't sure they are ready for. Once again, right on the money IMO, rihannsu. The Glam Nation Revival. I like that. |
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Post by wal on Dec 26, 2014 18:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Dec 26, 2014 18:57:10 GMT -5
Adam and Sauli definitely split up! I have no doubt about it. My guess is the getting back together probably started in Stcokholm, and has come together little by little over the past year. That's exactly what I think. When Adam said he was single, he was single. There were obviously problems prior to the breakup and they went their separate ways. Since they both are still single two years later, perhaps they are gravitating back to each other. I agree, Stockholm may have have lit the spark. We shall see. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 19:00:02 GMT -5
There's a reason ex-sex is a thing even in the straight community. Many things contribute to break ups and not all of them have to do with being any less attracted to the other. Couple face many stresses that often overshadow the passion of a relationship and after the breakup when those stresses are no longer there many find themselves rekindling their passions unexpectedly. I've always been of the opinion that expectation do more to kill relationships than anything else and we don't even always realize what expectations we have. As soon as you declare yourselves a couple not only do you each have expectations about the relationship that aren't always on the same page but you also have the expectations of your friends and family. Add to that in Adam's case the expectations of the fans, the press, the gay marriage movement, etc. and you get a minefield of things to deal with. Because of the "fairytale" nature of their relationship and Adam's outspokenness on marriage equality it was getting to the point where every interview led to questions about whether or not they would be getting married and no matter how Adam answered the question someone was sure to take offense. Some of the Sauli fans thought Adam was being dismissive of Sauli, some of the Adam fans thought Sauli was taking advantage of Adam. I remember my first response to the news of the breakup was "that will stop the marriage questions". In many ways I thought the "breakup" was more for the sake of simplifying things in the press. Part of this is due to having spent the last 14 years on the fringes of several alternative communities that all have varying ideas on what exactly comprises a "relationship". It's really not as simple as who you are or aren't having sex with. Adam is not only a part of the gay community but also the underground tribal art community, the burning man community, etc. I have a friend who once described her "relationships", yes plural, as an "amorphous blob". In that sense I don't think their "relationship" ended. It may have moved in to a non sexual phase or even a friends with benefits phase but I doubt Adam really saw it as an end to anything. They obviously both stayed in contact, Sauli continued to hang out with Adam's best friend Danielle and shared an apartment with another of Adam's close friends. But the press would not have handled that kind of relationship change without all kinds of drama and speculation. There was a lot of tabloid focus on their relationship that could have led to them being regular tabloid fodder the way Brangelina are regardless of the true nature of their connection. Much simpler for the press and public at large to see them as separate individuals. on the mark as usual |
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Post by irish1139 on Dec 26, 2014 19:06:35 GMT -5
I have noticed that everyone who posts here is totally different in age, how they were raised, where they were raised, liberal, conservative and in between. I don't agree with all of you and when you get into these boring posts that go on and on for pages, I just scroll. I have no animosity towards anyone. I think everyone should be able to express themselves. A lot of the time I laugh. The posts are only opinions. This is all in fun here. I accept all of you just as you are. I love reading all your ideas. I love all of you because I know you love Adam. To me, that is the bottom line. Our differences are immaterial. It is how much we support and love Adam that matters to me. The majority of us have been with him from the beginning. I cannot imagine my life without this website.
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Post by irish1139 on Dec 26, 2014 19:15:43 GMT -5
rihannsu, you are so friggin smart. I think I tell you that everytime you post something that makes sense.
I also love Adam and Sauli together. I remember all those pictures and the way they looked at each other. They were both so happy. Now don't tell me I don't have the right to say that because that is how I feel. I am a romantic and I love people in love. They have amazing body language and facial antics. Turns me right on. I guess I love LOVE.
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Post by houselady on Dec 26, 2014 19:16:07 GMT -5
Adam Lambert Gives Us A Peak At His Christmas Vacation On Instagram
 What did you do this Christmas vacation? Cause chances are, it wasn’t as fun as what Adam Lambert did. The singer gave us a whole play-by-play of his vacation to Tulum, Mexico on Instagram and my, what a vacation it looked to be. He had some fancy food, partied, checked out the Mayan Ruins and managed to look fabulous while doing all of it. I would say that last bit’s a Christmas miracle, but Adam always manages to look fabulous. I’m just offended by the fact that I wasn’t invited. Come on Adam. We’ve met twice now. Doesn’t that make us practically BFFs? No? Okay. I understand. I’ll just keep keeping up with your vacations via Instagram. Launch the gallery to check out all the photos of Adam’s Tulum trip. Oh, and how cute is this Brian May Tweet? Bless you all. Link: www.socialitelife.com/adam-lambert-gives-us-a-peak-at-his-christmas-vacation-on-instagram-12-2014
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