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Post by theosgma on Jan 11, 2015 17:48:38 GMT -5
So sorry to ask a repetitive question when the discussion is so interesting, but can anyone tell me what time the UK shows start? I am trying to plan my appointments around hopefully listening to a stream. For those with tickets, I would be very grateful to know. Thanks! Doors are at 6:30 and concerts start at 8PM in The UK. Don't know about Europe. thanks bama! |
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2015 17:52:08 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2015 17:54:33 GMT -5
mmadamimadamm @mmadamimadamm 5m DESPERATELY SEEKING AUDIO STREAMERS QUEEN+AL 1ST TWO SHOWS: NEWCASTLE / GLASGOW STREAMS: 14 OF 26 SHOWS DETAILS www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sjqubm |
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Post by rihannsu on Jan 11, 2015 17:58:52 GMT -5
LindaG! Agree!  I have said many times, the true meaning of say, Shady, would never be even known by the General radio listening person unless they saw or read Adam's interviews about it. To me, without that background info it is about going to party at an underground club. "Got my dancin shows on!" I agree mys*&@^#r...but he DID say it and we do know....can't undo things... In some ways, that is exactly my point...and if he wants the world to love and accept him as we do, he has to be a little more reticent about saying/showing these things. If that 'world domination' is not his goal, then, CARRY ON.....we will continue to love him regardless. All I am trying to say is that it really is his choice to make... now for sure, BBL Sorry to disagree here but world domination is NOT achieved by bowing down to the masses. It is achieved by sticking your ground until the masses come to you. Madonna, Bowie, MJ, Elvis, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, U2 all became iconic by being and doing their own thing, not by dumbing themselves down to appeal to the masses. They won their audiences and that is what Adam has been doing all along, winning his audience by being true to himself as much as he could be. His voice is his instrument and that is what wins him fans. For me his music IS his voice and I could care less what the instruments are doing. I like some arrangements better than others but to me that is all production as far as I'm concerned and doesn't make or break the song for me. But everyone listens to music for different things. People who are dance oriented care more about the background, the beat, the grove. People who are guitar fans care most about the guitars, etc. For me a song is all about the lyrics, the vocal, and the emotion. The reason I don't care what Adam sings is that whether the song is his or someone else's and no matter what the lyrics he can make me hear it in a new way every time he sings it. I love the songs Adam writes because the lyrics make sense, are thought provoking and full of complexity. But to be quite honest I will still be an extremely satisfied fan even if he decides he is no songwriter and just sings. Because whether it's an original he wrote, or a song someone else wrote, or a cover we've heard a zillion times whatever he sings is still uniquely him. He is no less of an artist singing a song someone else wrote than he is singing his own songs. I find it incredibly insulting to him when people insinuate that he's not a real artist because his songs are not "hits". That's NOT what defines an artist. Sure I want him to be successful and I'd love to see "world domination" but if it doesn't happen it is not an indication that he is not a great artist. There are incredibly gifted artist all over the world who NEVER achieve fame and recognition but none of that devalues their art. Also when did people forget that "entertaining" is in itself an art. Being able to engage an audience is an art form in its own right. Being a songwriter or a musician doesn't automatically make you an entertainer. That showmanship is art as well and no less important than the material. The greatest songs can still be crap if the performer doesn't have the artistry to communicate them to the audience. So yes we do defend him based on his voice because saying he isn't any good because his own songs aren't hits is a crap argument. I don't have to like a song to recognize the talent of the artist performing it or the person who wrote it. That's something people seem to have a hard time with. It's easy to say something is crap when we don't like it but just because we don't like something doesn't make it bad. |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 11, 2015 17:59:35 GMT -5
 so awesome! I wish our old US of A could embrace something like this! LOVE IT! EU FTW!!!! Pretty sure this is their manuel for the tour, for the participants. Not the program! oh...too bad |
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Jan 11, 2015 18:00:47 GMT -5
Here in Portland, we have a store which has most of the major papers and magazines from all over the world. If you are near a big city there is probably one there. You could try online to their website and you may be able to get a back copy. Here you go:- A. For back issues of The Daily Telegraph or The Sunday Telegraph, please contact Back Issue Newspapers. Phone: 0844 669 9400 (lines open Monday to Friday 9am-5.30pm, Saturday 9am-1pm) Website: www.backissuenewspapers.co.ukThanks!! |
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Jan 11, 2015 18:04:09 GMT -5
nica575, Adam has got all of these qualities, he's got more than enough character and he's an individualist for sure. I am one of Adam's greatest fans - but not necessarily of his music. What makes his music special is he as an artist and a singer, but I don't think that his music will stand the test of time and become classics. I would buy a CD of him singing the phonebook, because he is such a gifted singer. But - and this is just my opinion - most of the songs on FYE and Trespassing don't stand out for themselves. They are only good because Adam sings them. Maybe that's because Pop is not my favourite kind of music, I'm more into Progressive Rock. A lot of the songs are too easy to digest. Take "Naked Love" - which is a wonderful, little, funny make-you-feel-good kind of song, but there's no depth to it. I know Pop doesn't have to be deep - but that's what's lacking for me in a lot of these songs. I think this is a point where I have to disagree with a lot of people here on this board. The whole article where this passage is taken from, is more than positive, actually there is a lot of praising and flailing going an - and there is only that one sentence taken out where there is a criticism of Adam. And for me this criticism is true. Don't get me wrong there are several songs which I really love (Underneath, Nirvana, Runnin...), but overall I wish for him to do a different kind of music. And I wished from the bottom of my heart that some composers or producers could channel Adam's live singing magic onto a CD, but that hasn't happened. But that's just my silly little dream! My silly little dream too. |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 11, 2015 18:07:23 GMT -5
I agree mys*&@^#r...but he DID say it and we do know....can't undo things... In some ways, that is exactly my point...and if he wants the world to love and accept him as we do, he has to be a little more reticent about saying/showing these things. If that 'world domination' is not his goal, then, CARRY ON.....we will continue to love him regardless. All I am trying to say is that it really is his choice to make... now for sure, BBL Sorry to disagree here but world domination is NOT achieved by bowing down to the masses. It is achieved by sticking your ground until the masses come to you. Madonna, Bowie, MJ, Elvis, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, U2 all became iconic by being and doing their own thing, not by dumbing themselves down to appeal to the masses. They won their audiences and that is what Adam has been doing all along, winning his audience by being true to himself as much as he could be. His voice is his instrument and that is what wins him fans. For me his music IS his voice and I could care less what the instruments are doing. I like some arrangements better than others but to me that is all production as far as I'm concerned and doesn't make or break the song for me. But everyone listens to music for different things. People who are dance oriented care more about the background, the beat, the grove. People who are guitar fans care most about the guitars, etc. For me a song is all about the lyrics, the vocal, and the emotion. The reason I don't care what Adam sings is that whether the song is his or someone else's and no matter what the lyrics he can make me hear it in a new way every time he sings it. I love the songs Adam writes because the lyrics make sense, are thought provoking and full of complexity. But to be quite honest I will still be an extremely satisfied fan even if he decides he is no songwriter and just sings. Because whether it's an original he wrote, or a song someone else wrote, or a cover we've heard a zillion times whatever he sings is still uniquely him. He is no less of an artist singing a song someone else wrote than he is singing his own songs. I find it incredibly insulting to him when people insinuate that he's not a real artist because his songs are not "hits". That's NOT what defines an artist. Sure I want him to be successful and I'd love to see "world domination" but if it doesn't happen it is not an indication that he is not a great artist. There are incredibly gifted artist all over the world who NEVER achieve fame and recognition but none of that devalues their art. Also when did people forget that "entertaining" is in itself an art. Being able to engage an audience is an art form in its own right. Being a songwriter or a musician doesn't automatically make you an entertainer. That showmanship is art as well and no less important than the material. The greatest songs can still be crap if the performer doesn't have the artistry to communicate them to the audience. So yes we do defend him based on his voice because saying he isn't any good because his own songs aren't hits is a crap argument. I don't have to like a song to recognize the talent of the artist performing it or the person who wrote it. That's something people seem to have a hard time with. It's easy to say something is crap when we don't like it but just because we don't like something doesn't make it bad. EXCELLENT POST! Thank you, rihannsu! |
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Post by stampsgal on Jan 11, 2015 18:09:00 GMT -5
Don't we all tend to modify our speech based on environment? I know I do, I speak differently in a professional situation than I do with family and different from even that with my running buddies. To be honest I'm finding this whole theme somewhat confusing as I can't recall Adam ever speaking with a lisp? The poor sound reproduction on the Upright Cabaret videos made him sound slightly lispy and that's the only time I ever heard it, certainly not in any interviews. ??? Adam is a great communicator in interviews because he always 'mirrors' the interviewer - I do it all the time in my job and it is actually completely unconscious so I agree with Graciejane's take on this. Yes we all speak differently depending on the our audience. That is my point. He has a fan audience, and does not speak this way now in interviews. The origin of this conversation was that of mszue's posting... relating to Adam as a growing artist and how he chooses to display his sexual side/gayness in future concerts, and the possible impact on the future fanbase.
Maybe in real life depending on who he is with, he may still speak in this fashion. I have not heard him speaking like in interviews since those days...that is what I am saying. I do not believe it was the quality of the audio that caused the lispyness....just his style at the time. Just my view. This video is old and wonderful...and was re-posted only 4 days ago. It highlights implicitly the speech pattern, I am referring to. Maybe you are meaning something else??? Adam speaks at 12 seconds and then at 3:12 this second conversation demonstrates his speech even more so. |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 11, 2015 18:09:49 GMT -5
Dan @scubadan21 @drbrianmay we are ready for the tour! pic.twitter.com/x4nfXv3ELw  |
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I have said many times, the true meaning of say, Shady, would never be even known by the General radio listening person unless they saw or read Adam's interviews about it. To me, without that background info it is about going to party at an underground club. "Got my dancin shows on!" 
