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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 10:09:38 GMT -5
About the in ear monitors I just had a thought. A lot of my thoughts are plain stupid but I'm going to ask anyway.  You know how Adam often walks about the stage with his mouth wide open when he is not singing. Is it possible that he could be trying to readjust his plugs without using his hands to fiddle to try and get them back in the right position in his ear canals? |
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Post by toramenor on Jul 13, 2014 10:29:15 GMT -5
About the in ear monitors I just had a thought. A lot of my thoughts are plain stupid but I'm going to ask anyway. You know how Adam often walks about the stage with his mouth wide open when he is not singing. Is it possible that he could be trying to readjust his plugs without using his hands to fiddle to try and get them back in the right position in his ear canals? What an interesting idea. I doubt that's even possible, or at least not very practical, when it's much simpler to just touch it with his fingers. I mean, why would he want to avoid using his hands to adjust the monitors? Anyway, I don't know for sure why Adam opens his mouth so often like that, but my guess is that it has to do with his breathing. It would not be good for him to find himself in a situation where he's been jumping around the stage and then when he needs to sing: he's out of breath! And I know he doesn't literally jump around a lot, but he does expend a lot of energy just with the movements of his body. You may find this hard to believe, but a whole lot of energy goes into just making those dramatic action poses. During those poses, even though he's standing still, all of his muscles are actually very tense. (There is an actual physical skill to what you might call 'presence'.) So for him, just standing still is equivalent to some people's dancing and jumping. Plus, sometimes he does dance and jump, so that's even extra. It takes a lot of energy to do everything he does on the stage. An unfit person could not do it, especially not for 2 hours, night after night. |
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Post by rihannsu on Jul 13, 2014 12:32:58 GMT -5
About the in ear monitors I just had a thought. A lot of my thoughts are plain stupid but I'm going to ask anyway. You know how Adam often walks about the stage with his mouth wide open when he is not singing. Is it possible that he could be trying to readjust his plugs without using his hands to fiddle to try and get them back in the right position in his ear canals? I don't know about that but it did remind me of a question someone asked Bono once. They asked him why he always has his mouth wide open in pictures even when they are posed and not take while he is singing. He said that he does it because he's a singer and if you take a picture of him he wants you to think "singer". It's a kind of subconscious reinforcement of his identity. Have no clue if this has anything at all to do with why Adam does it. |
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Post by cassie on Jul 13, 2014 13:00:09 GMT -5
Adjusting his ear monitors? Could be. Hadn't thought of it.
As a singer, I doubt it is to breathe. I was never taught to gulp air open mouthed, nor have I seen any other singers doing it. Plus, he does it when he is NOT singing, so he doesn't need to take big breaths at that time. Singers take deep breaths to sustain a note or phrase and to provide adequate support for the tone, but not because they run out of oxygen like an athlete does exerting themselves.
It looks to me like he does it during big rock numbers just because he is getting into the number and he thinks that is part of the rawk star persona. He has reduced it quite a bit for this show, and I am glad to see it. While I call it his "orgasm mouth" look, I don't find it attractive. IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 13:20:22 GMT -5
Adjusting his ear monitors? Could be. Hadn't thought of it. As a singer, I doubt it is to breathe. I was never taught to gulp air open mouthed, nor have I seen any other singers doing it. Plus, he does it when he is NOT singing, so he doesn't need to take big breaths at that time. Singers take deep breaths to sustain a note or phrase and to provide adequate support for the tone, but not because they run out of oxygen like an athlete does exerting themselves. It looks to me like he does it during big rock numbers just because he is getting into the number and he thinks that is part of the rawk star persona. He has reduced it quite a bit for this show, and I am glad to see it. While I call it his "orgasm mouth" look, I don't find it attractive. IMHO. What made me think of it was watching one of my daughters pulling faces stretching her mouth and wiggling her jaw to the left and right to try to make her ears pop. Her ears seem to 'block' easily. |
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Post by toramenor on Jul 13, 2014 13:22:00 GMT -5
Yeah, just to clarify - I didn't mean to imply I thought it was his breathing technique for singing. He never does it while singing - he does it in between, when he's moving about or posing. Part of it could be the 'rock star persona', but part of it (in my opinion, I could be wrong of course) is to do with maintaining his energy. His on-stage presence would not be what it is without his movement, and the amount of energy needed to make that happen is not your average singer standing in front of a mic, or even an opera singer. He does need a lot more air, but he also often masks it pretty well, by adopting those faces.
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Post by cassie on Jul 13, 2014 13:31:30 GMT -5
Yeah, just to clarify - I didn't mean to imply I thought it was his breathing technique for singing. He never does it while singing - he does it in between, when he's moving about or posing. Part of it could be the 'rock star persona', but part of it (in my opinion, I could be wrong of course) is to do with maintaining his energy. His on-stage presence would not be what it is without his movement, and the amount of energy needed to make that happen is not your average singer standing in front of a mic, or even an opera singer. He does need a lot more air, but he also often masks it pretty well, by adopting those faces. I agree with you that Adam expends a great deal of energy during a performance. It is not so much from intense athletic physical exersion, but the energy it takes to sing correctly is not minimal, and I think establishing and maintaining that compelling stage presence requires some kind of psychic energy. When Angelina Kalahari (opera singer) saw him at an intimate press appearance in London in 2012, he sang five songs, four of them seated. Yet, when she hugged him afterwards she said he was WET, and she could feel the heat radiating off his body thru his suit jacket. She could also feel the dynamic psychic energy still projecting from him. Some minutes later she ran into him again getting into an elevator. At that time he was no longer "on", no longer glad-handing and interacting with the press and with fans. That intense energy was gone, and he looked tired. Very interesting to hear her talk about the interactions. |
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Post by toramenor on Jul 13, 2014 14:33:57 GMT -5
Yeah, just to clarify - I didn't mean to imply I thought it was his breathing technique for singing. He never does it while singing - he does it in between, when he's moving about or posing. Part of it could be the 'rock star persona', but part of it (in my opinion, I could be wrong of course) is to do with maintaining his energy. His on-stage presence would not be what it is without his movement, and the amount of energy needed to make that happen is not your average singer standing in front of a mic, or even an opera singer. He does need a lot more air, but he also often masks it pretty well, by adopting those faces. I agree with you that Adam expends a great deal of energy during a performance. It is not so much from intense athletic physical exersion, but the energy it takes to sing correctly is not minimal, and I think establishing and maintaining that compelling stage presence requires some kind of psychic energy. When Angelina Kalahari (opera singer) saw him at an intimate press appearance in London in 2012, he sang five songs, four of them seated. Yet, when she hugged him afterwards she said he was WET, and she could feel the heat radiating off his body thru his suit jacket. She could also feel the dynamic psychic energy still projecting from him. Some minutes later she ran into him again getting into an elevator. At that time he was no longer "on", no longer glad-handing and interacting with the press and with fans. That intense energy was gone, and he looked tired. Very interesting to hear her talk about the interactions. Like I said above, it's an actual physical skill - to be "on", to be "present". It has to do with "internal" vs. "external" - you project with your body. (This can be taught and learned.) Even if you are motionless, your muscles are tense. And when you're moving, the slow movements are performed with a steady control and softness that seems to overlay a deliberately tempered strength, and the quicker movements should show a beautifully sure positioning and articulation of the hips, torso and feet. This is brought together into a performative whole by a kinetic intelligence and subtle rhythmic wit. (If you don't have these latter two, you won't get too far in training.) Striking a pose might sound simple, but you try it and see if you can captivate a large audience. Any discussion of Adam’s ability to be a good holder of poses points to his ability to energise every inch of his body in such a way that the audience is riveted, and to inhabit it with the sort of emotional energy that is appropriate for the situation. There is an actual physical skill to this, a way of moderating and channelling the energy that flows through certain muscle groups, that physical performers know about. I don't know how much or how little Adam trained in dance and/or movement, but he must have had at least informal training to be able to do everything that I've seen him do. Now, this is a vocal masterclass, not a dance/movement masterclass, so I'll leave it at this, but maybe later, after this tour, and when I find the time, I'll start a thread about dance/movement where we can discuss this aspect of Adam in greater detail. ETA: The heat that Ms Kalahari mentioned literally comes from burning the calories. Because every inch of his body is energised and all his muscles are burning the energy, the heat is greater than normal. |
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Post by cassie on Jul 13, 2014 15:10:04 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about dance, but I love watching it. It would be wonderful if you set up a thread for that discussion. You might want to chat with dancygeorgia about it. She is very much into at least ballroom, I know.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 13, 2014 15:36:38 GMT -5
I'll add one more thing, regarding Adam's training in dance/movement. There is actually a difference between the two, which is why I keep writing both. Dance is choreographed movement. Adam has said himself he's not really a dancer, he's more of a mover, and I agree. He rarely does choreography and when he does it's pretty basic. I think he must have had a couple of dance lessons here or there, but more importantly for his 'stage presence', he has been in theater from age 10. It is most likely, I assume, that it was already there that he was taught the basics of movement: how to stand still, how to move across the stage. Through practice and rehearsals he improved, and later maybe even had extra lessons (formal or informal). He's also been his entire life around people who are physical performers (actors and dancers) and must have watched them and picked up a few things along the way. So, even if he didn't have formal dance lessons, that informal training in movement is evident. Most actors do have training in movement and/or dance - stage performers especially, but also on-screen actors. It helps with their acting, because it teaches them how to command an audience with just their body. A commanding voice is also important, of course, especially for the stage, and we all know that Adam's speaking voice is very polished in that respect, just like his singing.
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