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Post by lambo on Jul 17, 2012 13:17:13 GMT -5
Okay so I think Poland was probably the best attempt, or Moscow. Sounds like head voice on Freddie
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Post by Gina on Jul 17, 2012 19:57:26 GMT -5
I think the STL from either the second London gig or Poland was the best though neither were perfect. I could hear several of the high notes being somewhat off in every STL performance. Funny thing is that I've always found the high notes in the original recording to be out of place with the whole song, not necessarily off-pitch, but just a strange choice...
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Post by lambo on Jul 17, 2012 20:41:58 GMT -5
I think the STL from either the second London gig or Poland was the best though neither were perfect. I could hear several of the high notes being somewhat off in every STL performance. Funny thing is that I've always found the high notes in the original recording to be out of place with the whole song, not necessarily off-pitch, but just a strange choice... Why the second London gig? Cause he didn't sing it all? A bit harsh surely! (only joking ) I do like them in the original. STL is a bit of a weird song for Queen in all respects. P.S. Post more! :D
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Post by Gina on Jul 17, 2012 20:59:51 GMT -5
I think the STL from either the second London gig or Poland was the best though neither were perfect. I could hear several of the high notes being somewhat off in every STL performance. Funny thing is that I've always found the high notes in the original recording to be out of place with the whole song, not necessarily off-pitch, but just a strange choice... Why the second London gig? Cause he didn't sing it all? A bit harsh surely! (only joking ) I do like them in the original. STL is a bit of a weird song for Queen in all respects. P.S. Post more! :D Whoops! I meant the July 14th gig :-[ ;D
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Post by mszue on Jul 17, 2012 23:00:41 GMT -5
Hi cassie et al....I haven't been to this thread before...did not even realize it was there...or is this just another name for the masterclass thread?? whatever...I just wanted to put in a few words from what I have been reading of the last couple of pages here... 1. I don't know where I read or heard this but I gather that Freddie often purposely sang just under the note...borderline flat...for aesthetic reasons...I wish I could elaborate on where I got that from but I suspect it was the film that was posted earlier today on Freddie and queen...it was a long vid... 2. I was watching a few vids and it seems specially noticeable in WWTLF that he was using a slightly different technique than his usual...I can only describe it as 'filling his mouth to over full' with the words so that the enunciation is not exactly what we are used to...the person who sings like that..may seem like an odd comparison...is Cher. That 'full mouth' sound is so odd coming from Adam...there is a vid close up that shows, for me, what I am talking of. It is not a good or bad thing...just different... Does anyone else see/feel/know what I am talking of? Maybe it is just me..... :-/ eta I went to find a vid that showed what I saw/heard and could not really find a good example so perhaps it was me and I am full of it. :dunno: Definitely saw and heard that a few times but can't find the examples now so....ignore me... :-[
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Post by libralamb7pf on Jul 17, 2012 23:30:28 GMT -5
Hi cassie et al....I haven't been to this thread before...did not even realize it was there...or is this just another name for the masterclass thread?? whatever...I just wanted to put in a few words from what I have been reading of the last couple of pages here... 1. I don't know where I read or heard this but I gather that Freddie often purposely sang just under the note...borderline flat...for aesthetic reasons...I wish I could elaborate on where I got that from but I suspect it was the film that was posted earlier today on Freddie and queen...it was a long vid... 2. I was watching a few vids and it seems specially noticeable in WWTLF that he was using a slightly different technique than his usual...I can only describe it as 'filling his mouth to over full' with the words so that the enunciation is not exactly what we are used to...the person who sings like that..may seem like an odd comparison...is Cher. That 'full mouth' sound is so odd coming from Adam...there is a vid close up that shows, for me, what I am talking of. It is not a good or bad thing...just different... Does anyone else see/feel/know what I am talking of? Maybe it is just me..... :-/ eta I went to find a vid that showed what I saw/heard and could not really find a good example so perhaps it was me and I am full of it. [img src=" i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/dunno1.gif"] [/IMG] Definitely saw and heard that a few times but can't find the examples now so....ignore me... :-[ [/quote] I watched that video of a bunch of Freddie' s friends talking about him & remember one of them saying how he used to occasionally sing a note a bit higher or lower than on pitch on purpose. The vid was posted by adamrocks on p. 21 of the 07/16/12 thread. It's about 51 minutes long & cuts off abruptly. www.adamtopia.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=daily&thread=1017&post=278931Hope this helps. I don't know how to bring it here :-[
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Post by bridgeymah on Jul 18, 2012 5:39:47 GMT -5
Adam has ruined me. I blame him I really do. I am having increasing trouble listening to many other singers without a bit of a shudder. Nasily, auto-tuned, not just off key a bit but outright flat, straining to pass kidney stones through their vocal chords... the list goes on an on. I trust I'm not alone... As a result the list of artists who I can listen to with unconditional pleasure seems to be decreasing daily.
The conversation above about that "ringing resonance" to Adam's voice actually makes me curious about what a duet with one of the few other singers I can still listen to who I think has that same quality (albeit in a totally different way) - Alison Krauss. Not a match up that you would immediately think about but I think it would be quite something. I mean if she can bring out best in Robert Plant...
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Post by lambo on Jul 18, 2012 6:56:40 GMT -5
Adam really does raise the bar for singing by a lot but I can still enjoy most singing if I just judge it as it is. In the cases where the voice is mediocre I just focus on the music but when it's outright bad, no way José!
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Post by bridgeymah on Jul 18, 2012 8:19:55 GMT -5
Adam really does raise the bar for singing by a lot but I can still enjoy most singing if I just judge it as it is. In the cases where the voice is mediocre I just focus on the music but when it's outright bad, no way José! Was struck tonight while trying to watch The Voice US which is on TV here right now how phenomenal Adams feat at representing Quuen's music but still interpreting in his own way. Listening to painful attempts on the show ally highlighted his accomplishment ( and thankfully mute and some TALC vids provided necessary palette cleanser)...
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Post by cassie on Jul 19, 2012 16:24:26 GMT -5
What the hell is Adam's voice type? This comes up periodically. Here is something Angelina just posted today on her soundbath blog, addressing just that question. " I understand why people might assume he is a Baritone singing in his higher range. Adam's voice is a very rare voice-type - he is essentially a leggiero tenor, but you're right to an extend - his voice might just defy classification and I wouldn't be in the least surprised to discover that. Remember that we can only judge his voice by what we can hear from him at the moment and from what he has recorded so far, and his voice will still continue to mature as well. But I'm pretty confident that if we HAVE to box him in, his voice fits perfectly into the leggiero tenor fach. This means that the voice is unusually flexible, and capable of performing wonderful coloratura runs easily - something at which Adam excels! The other characteristic of this voice type is that the head voice, when it reaches a certain range, is often mistaken for falsetto when in fact the full-voice mechanism is still in place - I've seen this confusion from many people over the past three years when it comes to Adam's voice. And what might then be even more confusing to them, is that on the other end of the scale, the lower register of this voice type, typically has Baritone qualities. The result is that unless dealt with properly, this voice type can easily be mis-classified, with disastrous results for the singer. Thankfully, Adam seems to have had wonderful, knowledgeable vocal coaches in his life who did not damage his voice, and he seems to have followed his own instincts on what to do with it and how to develop it perfectly." soundbath.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/adam-lamberts-trespassing-the-vocal-review/
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