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Post by annala on Jul 9, 2012 0:47:13 GMT -5
Cassie, I agree, and it's that "ringing resonance" that is so evident when hearing his sound checks - most recently at Wroclaw. Earlier this year while waiting in line at Jimmy Kimmel that disembodied voice ringing out over the streets of Hollywood during his sound check was like hearing an angel voice - I don't know how else to describe that clear bell-like tone.
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Post by lambo on Jul 14, 2012 9:20:38 GMT -5
I got to hear that "ringing resonance" on Thursday and gosh you were all right. That sound just hasn't been captured properly on any recordings.
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Post by bridgeymah on Jul 15, 2012 2:15:53 GMT -5
I got to hear that "ringing resonance" on Thursday and gosh you were all right. That sound just hasn't been captured properly on any recordings. I still remember standing with my mouth open during GNT dumbstruck by that voice as it bounced around the theatre. Hearing Adam in a theatre with great acoustics is something everyone should get to experience at least once... |
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Post by nica575 on Jul 15, 2012 21:20:37 GMT -5
cassie - I know what you are saying...it all comes down to how "rock" sound is defined and what actually constitutes rock...after getting myself acquainted with Queen songs I am no longer sure...
I had this conversation with Talon - why is it that ABTD is rock and TP is pop? These are twins. Why is it that TSMGO is rock and Underneeth is pop? I can go on and on....
In the end - Adam is his own genre and I sure hope that he establishes himself as such...
For me (for you) - Adam is a classical singer: from his flawless technique to the purity, the ringing, the soaring, the clarity of sound is undeniably classical. I know - the result is not that round classical sound, but he can add that last polish easily. That is why the little My Conviction piece is such a gem - it took him no effort to slip in and out of the gorgeous absolutely classical notes and morph them into some weird kitschy sounds...
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Post by lambo on Jul 16, 2012 7:35:56 GMT -5
cassie - I know what you are saying...it all comes down to how "rock" sound is defined and what actually constitutes rock...after getting myself acquainted with Queen songs I am no longer sure... I had this conversation with Talon - why is it that ABTD is rock and TP is pop? These are twins. Why is it that TSMGO is rock and Underneeth is pop? I can go on and on.... Honestly both Queen and Adam are impossible to fit into little boxes like pop or rock, both usually go for the best of both worlds, though Adam has never really recorded songs that just outright *hard rock* like Keep Yourself Alive and I Want It All. TP is more of a rock song than ABTD, TSMGO is more rock than Underneath, it's usually the approach and instrumentation that people look at when defining how *rock* something is, but at the end of the day it's really vague, both Freddie and Adam were pop-rock singers and that's the main thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 10:03:56 GMT -5
Now we have;
laughed,
cried,
squeed,
completely lost it,
cleared the debris around the computer,
watched enough collective jaws drop to rid the world of flies,
resisted the temptation to say "I told you so",
and seen Adam in all his glory doing what he was put on this earth to do,
is it safe to talk about those falsetto bits in STL?
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Post by cassie on Jul 17, 2012 10:50:34 GMT -5
Now we have; laughed, cried, squeed, completely lost it, cleared the debris around the computer, watched enough collective jaws drop to rid the world of flies, resisted the temptation to say "I told you so", and seen Adam in all his glory doing what he was put on this earth to do, is it safe to talk about those falsetto bits in STL? :4OMG: :4OMG: :4OMG: :4OMG: I don't know if it will ever be safe! I am still licking my wounds from the last fray. But, since this is the vocal masterclass thread....... Angelina has repeatedly said to me that Adam is a leggiero tenor. I was not familiar with that term, so I have been doing some research. (not to debate angelina, certainly, but to understand the voice type). I ran across this just today: "Because of a change in vocal timbre above the high A-flat, the leggiero Tenor is sometimes thought to be using falsetto because of the lighter quality as he ascends toward the high C and up to the E-flat above high C. Considering this range to be falsetto is a HUGE mistake, because in fact this is NOT a pure falsetto mechanism, but a mechanism that has full-voice connection." So, according to the experts, Angelina, and Adam himself, he is not actually singing falsetto (at least very rarely) when we think he is. That is his pure head voice. From the same article: "How does an instructor learn to hear the difference between a Leggiero extension and falsetto? What are the differences if the sound is similar? This question is answered first and foremost in the fact that, if vocalized correctly, the leggiero Tenor upper extension has brilliance and strength, especially when working with a forward tongue position and a high/wide soft palate and open naso-pharynx. A strong amount of ring and sound is not a typical characteristic of the falsetto, especially in the undeveloped singer. The falsetto usually possesses a slightly hollow sound that does not encourage a large amount of high overtones. "Does all that sound familiar? Sound like how you would describe Adam's high notes? Having said that, my ear informs me that in STL he never landed the pitches on those super high ringing notes. A couple were close, most had me saying "Adam, what note are you going for, cuz, whatever it is, that ain't it." Are others hearing that as well? The rest of the world is telling me how utterly amazing and perfect the song was every night. :dunno: :dunno: |
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Post by lambo on Jul 17, 2012 11:21:43 GMT -5
Gonna listen to all versions later. I'll let you know. Adam did use a bit of falsetto with Queen though, on the intro of Don't Stop Me Now for one, you can tell cause it sounds a lot softer and dreamier than his head voice which is really clear and ringing on stuff like Under Pressure.
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Post by Alison on Jul 17, 2012 11:58:24 GMT -5
Cassie, my ear told me the same thing about these parts of STL. He seemed off to me and I found it unsettling to my ear. This is so unusual for me when listening to Adam, yet was consistent in the performances of the STL. I almost believe that he was intentionally "off"--a vocal interpretation of "water in my brain, going crazy, no common sense." If I tell myself that it was intentional I find it easier to listen to. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 12:41:01 GMT -5
I went back and listened to the original Queen recording.
At 3.30, 4,05 and 4,30 Freddie makes the same sound and although I've never noticed it before I think it's slightly off. Maybe it's because Freddie sings the ooooh sound softer and doesn't hold as long is why it's not as noticeable or maybe it's supposed to be slightly off?
I just know that when I sing that song in my head with Adam's voice I have to stop at that part as it makes me grimace.
I thought Wednesday nights STL was better than Saturdays as Adam's pitch was better and he sung the offending notes more softly and didn't hold as long.
Does Freddie use falsetto or a head voice also?
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