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Post by irish1139 on Dec 14, 2015 11:01:51 GMT -5
I get more upset at all the gushing. I love reading other people's opinions, good or bad. Adam is almost perfect but come on, he is after all human and goofy once in awhile. Some of you act like we are not suppose to notice that about him. It is a given that we all are madly in love with him or we wouldn't be here. However, let us voice a personal opinion once in awhile without feeling guilty. All you have to do is scroll. |
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Post by haribert on Dec 14, 2015 11:16:32 GMT -5
I loved my late mother dearly, and I still miss her every day. But she had one habit that made me crazy: no matter how content she was with her current situation in life, no matter how perfectly her plans came together, no matter how much my dad and we kids did our best to make her happy and proud – she still, always, focused on the one thing she could find to complain about.
If you’d come home with mostly A’s on your report card, she’d grumble and grouse because you got a C in gym. If dad gave her a night off by treating us to dinner at a fancy restaurant, she’d thank him but complain that he spent too much, we should have gone to the local burger joint. If you surprised her on her birthday with a homemade cake, she’d whine because you made chocolate batter, not yellow. I hated shopping for clothes or home furnishings with Mum because even pricey stuff wasn’t good enough. She might have been grateful that we could afford nice things, but that didn’t stop her from bitching that the color wasn’t perfect, the workmanship was shoddy, etc., blah blah.
On the other hand, Mum never hesitated when a family member, friend, or neighbor was in need; to ease their pain, she’d go way further than anyone else would. She was one of the most compassionate, kindest people the world has known. So why was she such a Grinch sometimes? Because although she believed she herself didn’t deserve much in life, she thought the people she loved deserved perfection. It wasn’t that things weren’t good enough for her, they weren’t good enough for her precious family.
It took me years to understand this.
I tell you this story because often Atoppers remind me of Mum, with their angsty rants about “Why didn’t Adam play that song I love?” or “I hate those pants, wish he’d ditch them,” and so on. Yeah, some of these attitudes may come out of entitledness. But I think far more of them arise out of our passion for Adam and our fervent wishes for his success. We’re so invested in him that we want him to be perfect and have a perfect career. And so we rage against anything that, to us, doesn’t fit that blemish-less image of our hero. If we could make our desires and wishes for Adam reality, we would. But that’s not how life in the real world works.
So next time I run across another Adam fan ranting on Atop, instead of becoming irritated, I’ll smile and remember Mum and the reasons why “not good enough” was her mantra. It’s all about love.
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Post by nica575 on Dec 14, 2015 11:25:43 GMT -5
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Post by red panda on Dec 14, 2015 11:29:26 GMT -5
cassie wrote:
And you know I am with you on this, cassie. There are songs that he has done so far that really resonate with me, but I confess to being greedy. There are other styles I would love to hear him interpret, as I have said before. When you hear the voice of a lifetime, I think it is okay to want to explore everything it can do. And, like you mentioned, I am willing to wait patiently to see if he does that at another stage in his career.
What I am not doing, because the above is my opinion:
1. considering myself an expert on how he should choose his songs, his set list, his publicity, his management, his clothing, his hair style
2. negating what he has already done
3. trying to start a negative conversation
4. looking for someone to prove me wrong by sheer volume or fervor
theosgma wrote:
I think this is a great idea. That thread could be lovely for those who want to do a much more in depth analysis of what is going on in Adamland.
And I would like to mention that for me, it is often not the content of the posts, but the tone. No one has to be right or wrong, they are opinions being expressed. I think that what is troubling sometimes is not what is being said, but how it is said. And I recognize that as a fairly universal problem on internet boards.
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Post by gabriella on Dec 14, 2015 11:29:42 GMT -5
I just watched the videos from last night and as always I think he stayed it!
I confess I love him..........unconditionally! I love that he always changes it up (in Paula's words and how profetic they turned out to be) he has that element of surprise and that's what keeps me interested and coming back for more. I love the fact that he surprises me with each performance....... they are all different with sometimes suttle nuances other times more noticeable changes. I love the chameleon that is Adam Lambert.......his voice, his style, but most of the human being that lurks behind the facade.
I also confess that I don't get the angst.........we all have our preferences. I have no problem when people expressing their preferences, what does bother me is the tone of some comments and also comments that seem to insinuate what Adam should and shouldn't do.
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Post by oracle on Dec 14, 2015 11:32:04 GMT -5
I think here is a place for either and in between as long as it's genuine. The "he should have, could have, why didn't he!" gets old! Remember wben we would read some reviews of Adam's new albums? It happened with both Trespassing and TOH, and the reviewers would talk about how Adam should be doing Rock? We would get so frustrated & say, "Wny can't they review what he IS doing instead of what he's NOT doing?!" This is what I feel has been happening here lately. Many have their agenda (not addressing anyone in particular) of what they wish Adam would wear, sing and how. It takes away, at least for me, the enjoyment of post concert discussions. To come in here all excited about a great show & then read pages of what he should have done is just :( Thank heaven, he does what he wants! I agree. my objective in stanning adam is simply to help him reach the level of success he is striving for. if and when he reaches that level, I well step aside if I don't happen to like the genre of music he is putting out. lucky for me, I listen to top 40, EDM, dance, etc anyway. I want him to be happy with his career. not for his career to make me happy Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards |
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Post by red panda on Dec 14, 2015 11:37:34 GMT -5
I loved my late mother dearly, and I still miss her every day. But she had one habit that made me crazy: no matter how content she was with her current situation in life, no matter how perfectly her plans came together, no matter how much my dad and we kids did our best to make her happy and proud – she still, always, focused on the one thing she could find to complain about.
If you’d come home with mostly A’s on your report card, she’d grumble and grouse because you got a C in gym. If dad gave her a night off by treating us to dinner at a fancy restaurant, she’d thank him but complain that he spent too much, we should have gone to the local burger joint. If you surprised her on her birthday with a homemade cake, she’d whine because you made chocolate batter, not yellow. I hated shopping for clothes or home furnishings with Mum because even pricey stuff wasn’t good enough. She might have been grateful that we could afford nice things, but that didn’t stop her from bitching that the color wasn’t perfect, the workmanship was shoddy, etc., blah blah.
On the other hand, Mum never hesitated when a family member, friend, or neighbor was in need; to ease their pain, she’d go way further than anyone else would. She was one of the most compassionate, kindest people the world has known. So why was she such a Grinch sometimes? Because although she believed she herself didn’t deserve much in life, she thought the people she loved deserved perfection. It wasn’t that things weren’t good enough for her, they weren’t good enough for her precious family.
It took me years to understand this.
I tell you this story because often Atoppers remind me of Mum, with their angsty rants about “Why didn’t Adam play that song I love?” or “I hate those pants, wish he’d ditch them,” and so on. Yeah, some of these attitudes may come out of entitledness. But I think far more of them arise out of our passion for Adam and our fervent wishes for his success. We’re so invested in him that we want him to be perfect and have a perfect career. And so we rage against anything that, to us, doesn’t fit that blemish-less image of our hero. If we could make our desires and wishes for Adam reality, we would. But that’s not how life in the real world works.
So next time I run across another Adam fan ranting on Atop, instead of becoming irritated, I’ll smile and remember Mum and the reasons why “not good enough” was her mantra. It’s all about love.
, this brought me to tears. It is so compassionate, and made even sweeter because it took you time to come to an understanding and acceptance. What a lovely way to look at, and have memories of, your mother. You are a very special person, and I think we would all like to be viewed with sympathetic understanding eyes. Thank you for sharing this pertinent story. We do have a choice about how we view things, don't we? Love is the answer. |
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Post by satisfied on Dec 14, 2015 11:49:18 GMT -5
Geez Louise... He came. He sang. Apparently it was good. Pretty sure nothing else matters, but from a quick scan here... Lucy best ever. It was too rock for tweens. No The Light. But why not there were tweens it would be perfect. IIHY reggae is awful. It's current and makes it interesting for younger audiences. His pants were too baggy and cap is daggy. He was hip and gorgeous. People left early because he said mother fucker. They were trying to beat the traffic. He shouldn't have been last so people didn't leave. But he's the best so of course he was last... Did I miss anything? Love you all but sometimes all the AAD (Adam Angst Disorder) makes my head hurt. #stilllovethemoo #later  |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Dec 14, 2015 11:49:59 GMT -5
I think here is a place for either and in between as long as it's genuine. The "he should have, could have, why didn't he!" gets old! Remember wben we would read some reviews of Adam's new albums? It happened with both Trespassing and TOH, and the reviewers would talk about how Adam should be doing Rock? We would get so frustrated & say, "Wny can't they review what he IS doing instead of what he's NOT doing?!" This is what I feel has been happening here lately. Many have their agenda (not addressing anyone in particular) of what they wish Adam would wear, sing and how. It takes away, at least for me, the enjoyment of post concert discussions. To come in here all excited about a great show & then read pages of what he should have done is just :( Thank heaven, he does what he wants! But I think it's fun discussing his outfits - I ejoy sharing opinions of his clothing choices - good, not so good, and EEK! After all, he is so into fashion.  Now the music - I am happy with whatever he sings. I know what I love, and it's always his glorious voice, so I keep my mouth shut about that and read other more knowledgable opinions about how he chooses what to sing. After all, we all love him, and we ARE here to have great discussions, aren't we?  |
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 14, 2015 11:50:58 GMT -5
I loved my late mother dearly, and I still miss her every day. But she had one habit that made me crazy: no matter how content she was with her current situation in life, no matter how perfectly her plans came together, no matter how much my dad and we kids did our best to make her happy and proud – she still, always, focused on the one thing she could find to complain about.
If you’d come home with mostly A’s on your report card, she’d grumble and grouse because you got a C in gym. If dad gave her a night off by treating us to dinner at a fancy restaurant, she’d thank him but complain that he spent too much, we should have gone to the local burger joint. If you surprised her on her birthday with a homemade cake, she’d whine because you made chocolate batter, not yellow. I hated shopping for clothes or home furnishings with Mum because even pricey stuff wasn’t good enough. She might have been grateful that we could afford nice things, but that didn’t stop her from bitching that the color wasn’t perfect, the workmanship was shoddy, etc., blah blah.
On the other hand, Mum never hesitated when a family member, friend, or neighbor was in need; to ease their pain, she’d go way further than anyone else would. She was one of the most compassionate, kindest people the world has known. So why was she such a Grinch sometimes? Because although she believed she herself didn’t deserve much in life, she thought the people she loved deserved perfection. It wasn’t that things weren’t good enough for her, they weren’t good enough for her precious family.
It took me years to understand this.
I tell you this story because often Atoppers remind me of Mum, with their angsty rants about “Why didn’t Adam play that song I love?” or “I hate those pants, wish he’d ditch them,” and so on. Yeah, some of these attitudes may come out of entitledness. But I think far more of them arise out of our passion for Adam and our fervent wishes for his success. We’re so invested in him that we want him to be perfect and have a perfect career. And so we rage against anything that, to us, doesn’t fit that blemish-less image of our hero. If we could make our desires and wishes for Adam reality, we would. But that’s not how life in the real world works.
So next time I run across another Adam fan ranting on Atop, instead of becoming irritated, I’ll smile and remember Mum and the reasons why “not good enough” was her mantra. It’s all about love.
, this brought me to tears. It is so compassionate, and made even sweeter because it took you time to come to an understanding and acceptance. What a lovely way to look at, and have memories of, your mother. You are a very special person, and I think we would all like to be viewed with sympathetic understanding eyes. Thank you for sharing this pertinent story. We do have a choice about how we view things, don't we? Love is the answer. This was beautifully and thoughtfully said, Haribert. Thank you for sharing it with us.  |
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