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Post by EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis on Jun 1, 2011 23:14:58 GMT -5
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Good morning everyone and happy birthday qtip22!!! It's official. Adam isn't human. I think his spirit animal the wolf (was that what he said?) has taken over. Look at his pupils in the first pic. The one side almost looks like a lightning bolt and the eyes are so green! And in the second he just spotted his prey. Lord help whoever that might be.  I know this was from this morning but please bear with me. Doesn't it seem as if Adam has a humongous blow dryer over his hair? No? #okayitisjustmethen Sorry, carry on.... And no, I'm not obsessed... |
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Post by cassie on Jun 1, 2011 23:16:13 GMT -5
I love Adele - and her "Rolling in the Deep". I love her CD; listen to it every day. Her voice is honest, but, mostly, she is singing from her chest and throat. It may cost her. You can hear her going from chest to head when she sings the word 'deep' and moves the tone upwards. The note goes to her 'head' and the tone is clear and pure. Head voice preserves the vocal when the range goes higher. Adam's range seems to transition freely from chest to head. This is a credible talent; not to be received lightly. Taking a throaty, emotional tone and stretching it is doing your vocal cords no favor. If your 'best voice' is in your chest you realize it and use it. When you stretch that vocal range, and try to keep the notes that belong higher "in your head voice", instead, in your chest - - well, that's when the vocal cords become strained and can, over time, be damaged. In my opinion, it cost Julie Andrews her light, ringing head-voiced tone; trying to belt it out in 'Victor-Victoria'. The raspy, throaty tone of Adele will create laryngitis if she takes it to the high notes, because the tone, as genuine as it is, is forced. The forced, chest voice that tries to go higher and higher will break; as it did when Lauren Alaina in AI worked it up and up. Laryngitis is not the result of singing too much. It is the result of forced singing; putting your voice in the wrong place. It's like yelling at a ball game; too much, too long. A voice, placed where it belongs - chest or head - and supported with adequate breath control - will thrive with care and use. Hello Adam. I'm no expert . . . but I've been performing for a long time. What she said!!! ^^^^ The current pop and rock style, for males and females, is to use chest voice almost exclusively, and to belt out high notes with chest that are really beyond their natural range. It concerns me for the singers' longevity. However, I know why it is done, and how it originated. If you have not had formal vocal training, you have great difficulty shifting to head voice, and may not even know that it exists, especially if you are female. (Most males at least know how to shift into a kind of light falsetto.) And the background of a majority of pop and rock stars does not include formal voice lessons. Belting is the only way they know how to power out high notes and extend their range. It is so ubiquitous, it has become the expected style/sound in pop and rock. There is also the flip side. People with formally trained voices generally can't sing authentic sounding pop or rock. Their trained vocal tone is too heavy or dark, or too "operatic" or schmaltzy, and their production of vowels sounds stilted and phony in the pop/rock style. That is one of the things that makes Adam so extraordinary. He has figured out how to keep all the formal technique and training, but modify the sound to work genuinely in pop and rock. I can't think of another singer who has done so so effectively. Oh, one comment. Julie Andrews lost that beautiful, ringing tone because she had botched surgery on her vocal cords. Like malpractice type botched. At first, it was uncertain if she would even be able to talk, much less sing. She has recovered much more than anyone thought she could, and learned to work around the problems, but, her voice will never be the same again. Sigh. |
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Post by EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis on Jun 1, 2011 23:18:36 GMT -5
Posted this pic to my RL facebook yesterday ~ Got remarks about Adam being so beautiful - but one friend said that I'm going to have to go into a 12-step program soon - regarding Adam! LMFAO!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LMAO!!! I think I need a 24-step program! :   |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 23:19:56 GMT -5
I think KIIS is totally Adam's playlist! Anyone listening to Pop in LA, listens to KIIS. I think it's the #2 station in the country. Is that right?
I never said I think Adam has to or should do a duet. I said, if it gets him into some of the CHR stations that won't play him, it'd be worth it. I said nothing about Pitbull. And a rapper is not actually what i was thinking. I was thinking more along the lines of PINK or BEPs or even Christina. Rap was the last thing I had on my mind. I also said, he would never be overshadowed in a duet. It would be impossible. He's Adam Lambert, he can't be overshadowed, no way, no how.
I also said, way back mid-thread, that Adam has a very good musical instincts. And if he thinks a duet or a CA Gurls type song is what he needs to become huge, then he has my support. I am on the
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ETA: Interesting posts about Adele's voice. I love her songs but actually have thought she sounds strained sometimes. Was always afraid to say it because she is like a goddess to so many people. As a matter of fact, if you have the time, listen to Haley Reinharts version of Rolling in the Deep. I think it is much better than Adele's live versions.
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Post by readon on Jun 1, 2011 23:27:02 GMT -5
Reposting the songs from the itunes playlist. I agree, that Adam would love to hear his songs on the top radio stations in the country, however his music tastes are eclectic. Some of what Adam loves will never be played on KISS or any other pop radio station.
1. Vogue - Madonna
2. Thriller - Michael Jackson
3. Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
4. Ohh La La - Goldfrapp
5. Fame - David Bowie
6. Kiss - Prince & The Revolution
7. Supermassive Black Hole - Muse
8. Beautiful - Christina Alguilera
9. A Song for You - Donny Hathaway
10. Free Your Mind - En Vogue
11. Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
12. Angel - Massive Attack
13. The Beautiful People - Marilyn Manson
14. Barracuda - Heart
15. Criminal - Fiona Apple
16. Bionic - Christina Aguilera
17. Song for No One - Miike Snow
18. Robot Love - Allison Iraheta
19. Clap your Hands - Sia
20. Back in time - Keane
21. Rocket - Goldfrapp
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Post by EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis on Jun 1, 2011 23:29:36 GMT -5
What she said!!! ^^^^ There is also the flip side. People with formally trained voices generally can't sing authentic sounding pop or rock. Their trained vocal tone is too heavy or dark, or too "operatic" or schmaltzy, and their production of vowels sounds stilted and phony in the pop/rock style. That is one of the things that makes Adam so extraordinary. He has figured out how to keep all the formal technique and training, but modify the sound to work genuinely in pop and rock. I can't think of another singer who has done so so effectively. I have always wondered about this. I would cringe whenever formally trained ppl would sing pop/rock songs as there is a kind of incongruity to the sound - something was out of place. Although, I have also heard ppl saying Adam's voice is too "clean" for certain rock songs. e.g. I love, love his studio rendition of Steven Tyler's "Crying" but when I played it for my nephew, he gave props to Adam but said his voice sounded a bit too trained or clean for that piece. My nephew thought he did a great job, though. |
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Post by willowgarden on Jun 1, 2011 23:30:13 GMT -5
This off the current topic. To those who didn't get their Charity Water Photo - Lane said on Adam's site several months ago, that many names and addresses were lost on that Saturday by Charity Water. They were overwhelmed and not capable of keeping the records. She then said please mail or email her and they would straighten it out. They seem able to find people but I think maybe it is the address which is the problem - names and addresses got separated. Can anyone PM me the email address to use for this? I have not gotten my tax receipt from Charity: Water or my photo. This might be helpful to all: I received my tax receipt from: taxreceipts@charitywater.org The email asking for our personal information came from: Alcharitywater@gmail.com. However, Lane also has an email address: Lane.newland@19entertainment.com |
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Post by SusieFierce on Jun 1, 2011 23:33:51 GMT -5
IMO, WWFM was and is a big hit. It is appraoching 2Mil and has a great hook. Even people I know who are anti-Idol, love that song. Yet, KIIS hardly played it at all. My opinion is that the PD either has an Idol bias or an Adam bias. Those are guesses. I think it is probably important to Adam to get played on KIIS. It's the station he's been listening to for 9 years now. Bruno Mars started off with several duets, then went solo. If a good duet would get Adam played, I'm all for it. And IMO, there is no way anyone he duets with, could ever over shadow him. No way.... it would be impossible! I does not matter what we think -- Adam will do what he wants but the is no imperative that a new artist do duets. Bruno Mars transitioned from a featured artist supporting other artists to a solo artist. Adam is already a solo artist. He doesn't need to do feature slots like some session artist. Katy Perry is big enough to get major artists to be featured on her songs. Adam is not that big. Adam is a solo artist who isn't big enough to get a major artist featured on his song. And he is unlikely to get to do a duet and equal billing with a megastar. So let's say he could do a collaboration with Pitbull -- do you really want to see XXX by Pitbull featuring Adam Lambert. I don't. It does him no go and he would not make much money. Also does Adam really listen to KIIS? Could be, I just do not recall him ever saying that. There are over 100 stations in LA air plus online plus Sirus XM, plus cable radio, plus downloaded music. I would be surprised if Adam was a regular listener to any commercial radio station. But if he did listen to commercial radio, why would he regularly listen to KIIS? Just does not sound like Adam's playlist. I really don't agree. And I don't think anyone suggested Pittbull, but okay. Adam studies the market and there are only two Top40 stations in the region and KIIS is WAAAY higher rated. What makes you think he wouldn't have a keen observation about what this station plays? This is the market he wants to break into. And as a former dancer, I enjoy hip hop very much. However, amid the same 14 songs on super-heavy rotation, KIIS plays a lot of random, obscure shit stuff that I don't think bears any resemblance to quality music. IIHY and WWFM are totally compatible and comparable with A LOT of the stuff they play. I will go to my grave contending that. |
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 1, 2011 23:34:07 GMT -5
People with formally trained voices generally can't sing authentic sounding pop or rock. Their trained vocal tone is too heavy or dark, or too "operatic" or schmaltzy, and their production of vowels sounds stilted and phony in the pop/rock style. That is one of the things that makes Adam so extraordinary. He has figured out how to keep all the formal technique and training, but modify the sound to work genuinely in pop and rock. I can't think of another singer who has done so so effectively. Michael Bolton, Linda Ronstadt and Pat Benatar were all classically trained vocalist. For some reason, I'm thinking Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston were also classically trained. ?? |
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Post by maria222pf on Jun 1, 2011 23:38:46 GMT -5
People with formally trained voices generally can't sing authentic sounding pop or rock. Their trained vocal tone is too heavy or dark, or too "operatic" or schmaltzy, and their production of vowels sounds stilted and phony in the pop/rock style. That is one of the things that makes Adam so extraordinary. He has figured out how to keep all the formal technique and training, but modify the sound to work genuinely in pop and rock. I can't think of another singer who has done so so effectively. Michael Bolton, Linda Ronstadt and Pat Benatar were all classically trained vocalist. For some reason, I'm thinking Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston were also classically trained. ?? Interesting, all females except Michael Bolton, who has ALWAYS sounded strained to me, on all of his songs... :-/ |
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