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Post by Holst on Feb 15, 2016 23:07:20 GMT -5
I had to calm down before I posted. I always thought the Grammys hated David Bowie and now I know it to be true. That was the worst "tribute" ever. More like a Saturday Night Live sketch. This is not about Adam for me, it is about David Bowie -- an artist who I respected and someone I was lucky to get to work for when I was just starting out in promotion and marketing. I'm glad you said it, I was almost afraid to comment! It was awful!!!!!! Not one song was sung enough to get a feel for it. If anyone listening didn't know any of his songs, they still don't!  That is my comment too. It was musically disjointed and frantic. 8 seconds of each song until the last one was just strange to me. |
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Post by Holst on Feb 15, 2016 23:09:46 GMT -5
I had to calm down before I posted. I always thought the Grammys hated David Bowie and now I know it to be true. That was the worst "tribute" ever. More like a Saturday Night Live sketch. This is not about Adam for me, it is about David Bowie -- an artist who I respected and someone I was lucky to get to work for when I was just starting out in promotion and marketing. ETA: Why did I think this was not an appropriate tribute to David Bowie? Because the most important thing about it was Lady Gaga caricature of David Bowie -- not David Bowie's music, art, fashion and being. You said everything I was feeling! The music got lost in that frenzy they called a tribute. I felt bad for Niles.. surely he must have realized how bad it was.Pretty sure Nile was responsible for that productions--at least musically. He was the producer, right? |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 15, 2016 23:10:20 GMT -5
I loved that Motörhead tribute!! My old rock roots showing, haha. Was that the Alice Cooper performance? Geez, you and I just can't agree on the performances tonight. Glad we can agree on loving Adam!!! |
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Post by bridgeymah on Feb 15, 2016 23:11:59 GMT -5
It is funny to read such diverging reactions from a fandom that all adores the same person....one would expect there to be more agreement. The thing is...David Bowie was outrageous so any production that was not outrageous, would not be true to his spirit...his artistic being. Who else in the music industry today ... other than Gaga....would put herself out there for the abuse she is sure to accrue, for the sake of being outrageous. Even our lovely Adam has given up on being outrageous, for the moment at least. He is wonderful and hugely talented...but not outrageous. How could Gaga do that, being 'genuine' ... and not be over the top. That is who she is and I would challenge anyone to come up with someone more suitable...seriously. I sort of think of it as the difference between presenting a version of the 'record'...which would simply require a good vocal rendering, or an alive performance, which requires so much more when you are talking about someone like Bowie. As always...and especially on this....ymmv lol I'll have to go and watch later, but wanted to comment on the "Bowie was outrageous" - I don't really agree with that. I think he walked his own path which is quite a different thing. Over generations his music etc has transcended into something that people relate to within their own lives and experiences. Part of the cultural consciousness if you like. How do you honor that? Not sure I have an answer - caricature is not it nor is bastardization. His very uniqueness and the different stages his music when through make it additionally challenging. I've felt from get go that having one of the biggest imitators in music sponsored by a massive corporation was a basic betrayal of the kind of trailblazing individuality Bowie was about so I'm predisposed not to like it... |
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Post by csquared on Feb 15, 2016 23:12:11 GMT -5
I loved that Motörhead tribute!! My old rock roots showing, haha. Was that the Alice Cooper performance? Geez, you and I just can't agree on the performances tonight. Glad we can agree on loving Adam!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 23:14:35 GMT -5
Just noticed in Adam's Snapchat with Rita Ora, at around 0:40, that's Tove Lo singing too > youtu.be/SJRv_JY8fck |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 23:15:26 GMT -5
It is funny to read such diverging reactions from a fandom that all adores the same person....one would expect there to be more agreement. The thing is...David Bowie was outrageous so any production that was not outrageous, would not be true to his spirit...his artistic being. Who else in the music industry today ... other than Gaga....would put herself out there for the abuse she is sure to accrue, for the sake of being outrageous. Even our lovely Adam has given up on being outrageous, for the moment at least. He is wonderful and hugely talented...but not outrageous. How could Gaga do that, being 'genuine' ... and not be over the top. That is who she is and I would challenge anyone to come up with someone more suitable...seriously. I sort of think of it as the difference between presenting a version of the 'record'...which would simply require a good vocal rendering, or an alive performance, which requires so much more when you are talking about someone like Bowie. As always...and especially on this....ymmv lol I'll have to go and watch later, but wanted to comment on the "Bowie was outrageous" - I don't really agree with that. I think he walked his own path which is quite a different thing. Over generations his music etc has transcended into something that people relate to within their own lives and experiences. Part of the cultural consciousness if you like. How do you honor that? Not sure I have an answer - caricature is not it nor is bastardization. His very uniqueness and the different stages his music when through make it additionally challenging. I've felt from get go that having one of the biggest imitators in music sponsored by a massive corporation was a basic betrayal of the kind of trailblazing individuality Bowie was about so I'm predisposed not to like it... Lots of food for thought there. |
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Post by pi on Feb 15, 2016 23:16:24 GMT -5
You said everything I was feeling! The music got lost in that frenzy they called a tribute. I felt bad for Niles.. surely he must have realized how bad it was.Pretty sure Nile was responsible for that productions--at least musically. He was the producer, right? I wonder how all that works.. who determines concept, direction, songs, etc.. |
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Post by mszue on Feb 15, 2016 23:18:30 GMT -5
It is funny to read such diverging reactions from a fandom that all adores the same person....one would expect there to be more agreement. The thing is...David Bowie was outrageous so any production that was not outrageous, would not be true to his spirit...his artistic being. Who else in the music industry today ... other than Gaga....would put herself out there for the abuse she is sure to accrue, for the sake of being outrageous. Even our lovely Adam has given up on being outrageous, for the moment at least. He is wonderful and hugely talented...but not outrageous. How could Gaga do that, being 'genuine' ... and not be over the top. That is who she is and I would challenge anyone to come up with someone more suitable...seriously. I sort of think of it as the difference between presenting a version of the 'record'...which would simply require a good vocal rendering, or an alive performance, which requires so much more when you are talking about someone like Bowie. As always...and especially on this....ymmv lol I agree. I really liked the performance, but would have liked fewer songs with more time to each song better. I can agree with you there dancey...I loved the use of the lighting to recreate some of his wild make-up choices... The first time I recall seeing that sort of technology used was a few years ago on Carrie Underwood's dress....lights gave it patterns and colours...the trouble is the artist has to stay really still for it to work properly....very cool though ETA...I understand people not liking the presentation...or Gaga...or Bowie...or whatever...but what is the criteria for saying it was "bad"?... It was a vision that many will not like but the musicianship was, I thought, pretty good. It was very complex and difficult, yet it all went according to plan...it must have or it would have been obvious. The choreo was exact and intricate...no relying on crotch grabs, no tripping or losing place....that takes a lot of work and rehearsal. Now Justin Beiber and a number of 'singers' were bad....because they could not do what they meant to do...that is bad, to me....OK quit now...don't want to go down in flames defending Gaga, for goodness sake. I just respect her courage and really do not respect mediocrity ... |
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Post by loxie on Feb 15, 2016 23:18:46 GMT -5
Gaga's performance was frenetic and chaotic. There was no interpretation of any song. She took voice lessons for six months before she sang "The Sound of Music" at the Academy Awards and I thought maybe she would use this training tonight. It didn't happen. The beginning of the performance with colors running across her face was clever but after that segment, everything appeared to become a manic frenzy - "frenetic and chaotic". Hardly creative and revolutionary in my opinion. |
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