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Post by tinafea on Feb 18, 2011 20:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 18, 2011 20:48:21 GMT -5
I'm thrilled that Adam remains unheard from and unseen. Good for him. (I truly hope they are both having an absolutely fantastically great time together.) I am surprised and pleased at the celebrity news coverage of Adam's relationship with Sauli thus far. It's been . . . normal, like the coverage of any other celeb's dating life. How it should be - but not, frankly, what I'd expected. I won't be able to express this exactly, but there's something about the way that Adam carries himself, fully respects himself, doesn't kow-tow, naturally expects respect and fairness while giving that to others that is almost a dare to anyone NOT to act that way. Of course, some still don't/won't but then they so absolutely look like complete jackasses it hardly matters. The way Adam told Sauli, "Hold my arm" - there's something significant in that, to me - it's something, I think, to do with Adam being the one to call how he's going to "be" in public, not the press or "society" or whatever. (Not to mention it was also just damn sexy, too, if you ask me.)Anyway, it is high time for a lull in Adam coverage, as far as I'm concerned. He needs to live, I have a ton to do! and the new AI season and these new photos I've never seen before (!) are enough for now. (I've been watching some of the top 60 AI contestant video interviews. One of the questions they can answer is favorite Idol moments - I've only watched the first dozen and already two of the contestants chose Adam's "Ring of Fire" and one of the guys I like, the bass-playing guy, picked "Whole Lotta Love.") You're doing it perfectly, BB!! I love the bolded paragraph!!! So. True!!! Also, oh noes! I haven't watched those Idol vids. Don't make me do that now. ??? ??? (But if Adam is flailed over, I may have to ...) |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 18, 2011 20:55:16 GMT -5
The opening to this article is just like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.... Despite his being one of the most popular "American Idol" contestants in recent history, Adam Lambert's post "Idol" success hasn't been what the record company, critics, or fans expected. While "For Your Entertainment" has slowly climbed to 782,000 domestic sales and over a million worldwide, it's not the explosive multi-million sales success of "AI" alums Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood. With all the controversy over Adam Lambert's outspokenness (on a variety of subjects) and bold displays of glam eroticism, does he need to take a step back? With a new album planned for 2011, should Adam make different choices than the ones he made with "For Your Entertainment?" Carrie is a country artist which is not comparable. And Kelly hasn't sold 1 million units of an album since 2004. Carrie has the last 7x platinum album in the US from her 2005 release, sold 3 million of her 2007 release and "only" 2 million of her 2009 release. The music business has changed and it is not just about album sales. Anyway -- I love Adam's "glam eroticism" and every other version of Adam except maybe the facial hair run wild Adam. (Pirate Adam OK with me!) I wish people would just let Adam be Adam. Let's read between the lines here and get to the heart of the matter: Is he TOO gay? Should he be LESS gay this time? I mean, no one seems to tell Lady Gaga to "tone it down". Oh, well because she is a straight female (mostly) so...yeah. Srsly. Also I know jack about the record industry but I don't know anyone who buys physical cd's anymore or for a long time. All itunes singles and whatever they like. Pick and choose. So comparing total cd units sold seems a little silly to me. IDK. Maybe I'm wrong. But even if I wasn't, an out super sexual gay male popstar was NEVER gonna go over like gang busters in conservative America. Do I believe he will gain popularity? Yes. But right out the bat he STILL had mountains to climb and he is still working on them as we speak. But ya know, maybe I'm just being cynical. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 18, 2011 20:59:19 GMT -5
Full disclosure: that pissed me off. This is my response: Whoa. That is an incredibly offensive comment, Cindy. So basically you're saying, "Adam, compromise your artistic integrity to kowtow to the homophobic masses that cannot process anything different than our narrow-minded view of the world." That is the height of prejudicial egotism. Why in the world do you expect ANYONE to sublimate who they are to fit into a box that your prejudice created? I could so easily say, "Prince is a great musician, but he really needs not to be so black and sexualized." And Prince would have every right to tell me to GTFO. And deservedly so. Maybe YOU need to see about changing. Adam is doing just great and his fans love him and respect his instincts. He pushes the envelope (as all legitimate artists should), but he is incredibly sweet, articulate, beautiful and knowledgeable about music. That rock you're living under must be getting heavy. Throw it off!! It's much more fun on this side. ETA: Sorry, but I've been at the end of a long work cycle and I just have no tolerance for this kind of thinking anymore. Sometimes I can let it go, but others just fry my brain. |
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Post by seoulmate on Feb 18, 2011 21:02:32 GMT -5
This post is Amen-alicious. And another one bites the dust: @adamlovessauli, who was spamming Adam's friends on Twitter to declare (literally every few seconds) that Adam belongs with Sauli and no one else, now comes up as "This user does not exist." I reported him/her for spam and I'm sure others must have done so too. Na na na na, na na na na, hey, he-ey, good-bye!   |
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Post by LindaG23 on Feb 18, 2011 21:06:35 GMT -5
SCROLL ALERT ... So this is a thought piece and ultimately about Adam but maybe not right off.
Last night I went to see Robyn in concert. I only went because MWP pointed out to me that she was in Austin at the new ACL concert venue (2700 peeps), tickets were $15.00 plus fees, and that Adam had tweeted that he liked her. When he did that, I of course listened to some of her music which I liked and read some reviews of her work; her latest album received an 86 metacritic score which is great. She was quite good in concert with two drummers and two keyboard/synth musicians, but oddly enough no guitarists. The lighting was good with maybe an excess of strobing, the acoustics were great and there were no costume changes. Robyn herself was charming giving props to "Awe-steen" in a way that was very cute and Swedish sounding (no Texan there) and she had an amazing amount of energy and really is a great dancer. Her sound is definitely very Europop and accessible. There were these large pinwheels on stage and MWP and I hoped that they would turn and throw off sparks but no such luck.
So despite the ticket prices the venue was not sold out, however the fans that were there were very enthusiastic. Without a doubt, the average age of the audience was much younger than at all the Adam concerts I went to; mid-twenties as opposed to mid-thirties on average and the age distribution was much narrower. At the Robyn concert there were a few young kids (teens) and a few older folks like me but most squarely in the mid-twenty party going age. At Adam's concerts the age range was much more broad but at both concerts everyone was definitely having a good time. Robyn's production was smaller but it was well thought out and I enjoyed myself tremendously.
So now we get to the real reason that I am recapping her concert at all and it has very much to do with Adam and the ambivalence that I sometimes detect when Adam is talking about his music and its direction. It goes to the difference between the music Adam likes to listen to with friends and the music he might feel is more desired by his audience and is more suited to his voice. Because without a doubt I think that EVERY GAY GUY IN AUSTIN WAS AT THE ROBYN CONCERT (I might exaggerate but not much) and they were all on their feet and dancing through the whole concert. She was fun, she was energetic, she was dancing, she was androgynous, she held them in thrall (some of the girls too), and I have never seen so many guys dancing without thought to who was watching. They reminded me of us at Adam concerts.
So I must think that this is sort of where Adam has been the last many years and I never really understood that until I attended this concert. To me, pre-Idol Adam was primarily theater and Upright Cabaret Adam with a little bit of rock thrown in as evidenced by Citizen Vein and Zodiac. But now I can definitely see the pre-celebrity Adam amongst the attendees at this concert because the mood was upbeat and fun and dare I say it, gay in perhaps the truest sense of the word. We know that he likes Europop because even when he talks about the Aftermath remix he says that dance-pop is how he heard it in this head. But this music, as fun as it is, does not do justice to a glorious voice and he knows it. He is anachronistic in his own environment.
What to do? It is a quandary. It will be interesting to see how he sorts this out. I think right now he is teetering a little bit because he wants to do justice to his talent but he is still a club kid at heart like all those guys at the Robyn concert last night. I personally hope that what he comes up with is a synthesis of the light pop dancey fun I heard last night and the rich dancey sophisticated joy that he is capable of.
I can't wait.
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Post by glamnana on Feb 18, 2011 21:11:17 GMT -5
there were 6 comments..5 very positive and this negative one..so sad that there are people that feel this way I loved Adam while on American Idol. And I don't care that he's gay or not. But I for one was turned off by the clown-like dress-up glitter and drag he seems to portray 24/7. I would have bought his album had it been from a clean cut young man with a great voice. But Rocky Horror is not something I care about as I live in the real world. He should save the outlandish flaming stuff for when he's singing in gay bars. Give us the good-looking gorgeous young man we fell in love with! Tone it down, and maybe you'll get your audience back Adam! Or I should say "tone it down, and maybe you'll get an audience of people OTHER than gay men". Full disclosure: that pissed me off. This is my response: Whoa. That is an incredibly offensive comment, Cindy. So basically you're saying, "Adam, compromise your artistic integrity to kowtow to the homophobic masses that cannot process anything different than our narrow-minded view of the world." That is the height of prejudicial egotism. Why in the world do you expect ANYONE to sublimate who they are to fit into a box that your prejudice created? I could so easily say, "Prince is a great musician, but he really needs not to be so black and sexualized." And Prince would have every right to tell me to GTFO. And deservedly so. Maybe YOU need to see about changing. Adam is doing just great and his fans love him and respect his instincts. He pushes the envelope (as all legitimate artists should), but he is incredibly sweet, articulate, beautiful and knowledgeable about music. That rock you're living under must be getting heavy. Throw it off!! It's much more fun on this side. ETA: Sorry, but I've been at the end of a long work cycle and I just have no tolerance for this kind of thinking anymore. Sometimes I can let it go, but others just fry my brain. [/quote] Yeah for you!  How about the statement that his audience consists only of gay men? Does she live under a rock?  ET: Don't know why the quote thingy isn't working for me?  |
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Post by cayman on Feb 18, 2011 21:22:33 GMT -5
there were 6 comments..5 very positive and this negative one..so sad that there are people that feel this way I loved Adam while on American Idol. And I don't care that he's gay or not. But I for one was turned off by the clown-like dress-up glitter and drag he seems to portray 24/7. I would have bought his album had it been from a clean cut young man with a great voice. But Rocky Horror is not something I care about as I live in the real world. He should save the outlandish flaming stuff for when he's singing in gay bars. Give us the good-looking gorgeous young man we fell in love with! Tone it down, and maybe you'll get your audience back Adam! Or I should say "tone it down, and maybe you'll get an audience of people OTHER than gay men". Full disclosure: that pissed me off. This is my response: Whoa. That is an incredibly offensive comment, Cindy. So basically you're saying, "Adam, compromise your artistic integrity to kowtow to the homophobic masses that cannot process anything different than our narrow-minded view of the world." That is the height of prejudicial egotism. Why in the world do you expect ANYONE to sublimate who they are to fit into a box that your prejudice created? I could so easily say, "Prince is a great musician, but he really needs not to be so black and sexualized." And Prince would have every right to tell me to GTFO. And deservedly so. Maybe YOU need to see about changing. Adam is doing just great and his fans love him and respect his instincts. He pushes the envelope (as all legitimate artists should), but he is incredibly sweet, articulate, beautiful and knowledgeable about music. That rock you're living under must be getting heavy. Throw it off!! It's much more fun on this side. ETA: Sorry, but I've been at the end of a long work cycle and I just have no tolerance for this kind of thinking anymore. Sometimes I can let it go, but others just fry my brain. [/quote] Soooooooo proud to (sort of) know you!!!!!!!!!!! Wishing I had a face to place with a name sometimes Regardless, I would want you on my team any day of the CENTURY! |
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Post by cookie on Feb 18, 2011 21:29:39 GMT -5
This article really gets my hackles up. The first thing that jumps out at me is how random this seems- what would make this seem like the most important thing to write about him right now? And it's sneaky manipulative in the way that always sends me over the edge- you can't disagree without, by definition, being an over-invested fan. And they seem to add 1 plus 1 but say it equals 27. I have to go now and write a "go to hell" response without being dismissed as over-invested. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 18, 2011 21:30:07 GMT -5
SCROLL ALERT ... So this is a thought piece and ultimately about Adam but maybe not right off. Last night I went to see Robyn in concert. I only went because MWP pointed out to me that she was in Austin at the new ACL concert venue (2700 peeps), tickets were $15.00 plus fees, and that Adam had tweeted that he liked her. When he did that, I of course listened to some of her music which I liked and read some reviews of her work; her latest album received an 86 metacritic score which is great. She was quite good in concert with two drummers and two keyboard/synth musicians, but oddly enough no guitarists. The lighting was good with maybe an excess of strobing, the acoustics were great and there were no costume changes. Robyn herself was charming giving props to "Awe-steen" in a way that was very cute and Swedish sounding (no Texan there) and she had an amazing amount of energy and really is a great dancer. Her sound is definitely very Europop and accessible. There were these large pinwheels on stage and MWP and I hoped that they would turn and throw off sparks but no such luck. So despite the ticket prices the venue was not sold out, however the fans that were there were very enthusiastic. Without a doubt, the average age of the audience was much younger than at all the Adam concerts I went to; mid-twenties as opposed to mid-thirties on average and the age distribution was much narrower. At the Robyn concert there were a few young kids (teens) and a few older folks like me but most squarely in the mid-twenty party going age. At Adam's concerts the age range was much more broad but at both concerts everyone was definitely having a good time. Robyn's production was smaller but it was well thought out and I enjoyed myself tremendously. So now we get to the real reason that I am recapping her concert at all and it has very much to do with Adam and the ambivalence that I sometimes detect when Adam is talking about his music and its direction. It goes to the difference between the music Adam likes to listen to with friends and the music he might feel is more desired by his audience and is more suited to his voice. Because without a doubt I think that EVERY GAY GUY IN AUSTIN WAS AT THE ROBYN CONCERT (I might exaggerate but not much) and they were all on their feet and dancing through the whole concert. She was fun, she was energetic, she was dancing, she was androgynous, she held them in thrall (some of the girls too), and I have never seen so many guys dancing without thought to who was watching. They reminded me of us at Adam concerts. So I must think that this is sort of where Adam has been the last many years and I never really understood that until I attended this concert. To me, pre-Idol Adam was primarily theater and Upright Cabaret Adam with a little bit of rock thrown in as evidenced by Citizen Vein and Zodiac. But now I can definitely see the pre-celebrity Adam amongst the attendees at this concert because the mood was upbeat and fun and dare I say it, gay in perhaps the truest sense of the word. We know that he likes Europop because even when he talks about the Aftermath remix he says that dance-pop is how he heard it in this head. But this music, as fun as it is, does not do justice to a glorious voice and he knows it. He is anachronistic in his own environment. What to do? It is a quandary. It will be interesting to see how he sorts this out. I think right now he is teetering a little bit because he wants to do justice to his talent but he is still a club kid at heart like all those guys at the Robyn concert last night. I personally hope that what he comes up with is a synthesis of the light pop dancey fun I heard last night and the rich dancey sophisticated joy that he is capable of. I can't wait. Hmmm, interesting, Linda. And it does hinge on the issue Adam has had from the beginning – the backlash from the gay contingent (ironic how our other discussion, based on the OMG! article, is the polar opposite), but he does face a huge backlash in ***GENERALIZING*** gay men tend to idolize women. From my observation, they do not know how to process Adam. From Jacob's articles and other posts from gay men during the AI8 cycle, I have read and heard comments that gay men love Kris and are freaked out by Adam. Lame. Completely lame. The fact that Adam has been walking a tightrope from the beginning is a testament to his talent and ability. |
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