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Post by marionm on Feb 12, 2018 23:36:46 GMT -5
Carrie is the biggest success to come from American Idol. Kelly would be second but I doubt they consider Kelly the enemy. She did put down Idol tho (the show that gave her a start) when she started to promote The Voice. Claimed they did not support her enough as if TV has supported anyone other than the coaches. Kelly had a great launch and it made her a star so hard to understand her pity party. Maybe that is why she was left off but I don't know. Jennifer did not put Idol down when she was promoting TV so it was not a requirement to be on the show. Whatever the reason just glad that Adam was there. HA! Why are people saying that Luis is playing Judas because he is a big star? He had a big hit but is he really that known in the US? I don't think we know for sure who is playing Judas or why until they announce. When did Kelly dish Idol for not supporting her enough? I know that she has had some very strong negative things to say about RCA Records and especially about Clive Davis, for not supporting her vision and creativity. They wanted to very much control what she produced music wise and she was very unhappy with that. She had to fight hard to get one of her albums released and also to get a particular song that was special to her released as a single. That song became one of her biggest hits. Carrie bigger than Kelly? Carrie is a big US success but Kelly is a global star! I don't remember Kelly saying that either... ...which song was that? "because of you" or "piece by piece"?
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 12, 2018 23:43:19 GMT -5
Kelly is globally the biggest Idol star ever. I Would go on a limb and say Globally Adam is second behind Kelly. Carrie is far bigger in the States.
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Post by nica575 on Feb 12, 2018 23:44:01 GMT -5
I don't think anyone said Fonsi was cast...I was trying to say IT WOULD MAKE SENSE if he were cast...but there could be many other candidates, and it can end up being someone completely out of the blue for us here...
it would be interesting to know who "the deciders" are...who has the power of veto...ALW?... Legend?...the network suits?...so far it seems JL is the full focus of the show, not to be "out shined" in any way....may be "too popular"a singer is not what JL will agree to...who knows...
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 13, 2018 0:04:44 GMT -5
When did Kelly dish Idol for not supporting her enough? I know that she has had some very strong negative things to say about RCA Records and especially about Clive Davis, for not supporting her vision and creativity. They wanted to very much control what she produced music wise and she was very unhappy with that. She had to fight hard to get one of her albums released and also to get a particular song that was special to her released as a single. That song became one of her biggest hits. Carrie bigger than Kelly? Carrie is a big US success but Kelly is a global star! I don't remember Kelly saying that either... ...which song was that? "because of you" or "piece by piece"? It was Because Of You. Just do a Google search including all of the following terms and you will see many articles about the feud: kelly clarkson clive davis because of you Here's just one: pagesix.com/2017/10/10/kelly-clarkson-clive-davis-was-a-bully/amp/
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 13, 2018 0:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 13, 2018 0:38:32 GMT -5
I don't think anyone said Fonsi was cast...I was trying to say IT WOULD MAKE SENSE if he were cast...but there could be many other candidates, and it can end up being someone completely out of the blue for us here... it would be interesting to know who "the deciders" are...who has the power of veto...ALW?... Legend?...the network suits?...so far it seems JL is the full focus of the show, not to be "out shined" in any way....may be "too popular"a singer is not what JL will agree to...who knows... Maybe I am the only one here. But in theory why exactly would Fonsi make sense? He is popular and has a gigantic hit Depactio with Bieber. But I am not sure he is that strong of a vocalist. Nor is he that big in the States. Popularity is important. But with what they have casted so far, they seem to be going for talent over popularity. I dont think JL is the centre of this production. Too early to tell. Tell they start producing the thing.
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Post by lurleene on Feb 13, 2018 0:39:37 GMT -5
Kelly is globally the biggest Idol star ever. I Would go on a limb and say Globally Adam is second behind Kelly. Carrie is far bigger in the States. Right now Adam would be the bigger star internationally. Kelly has not done as well as Adam internationally since he came on the scene but she did very very well before that. And Carrie is bigger in the US and Kelly bigger internationally than she. But Carrie has as estimated net worth of 85 million. Kelly 28 mil. Jhud 20 mil. Adam 16 mil ( tho he has not had an update with his last Queen concerts) so he has probably passed Jennifer. Daughtry and Jordin come in at 10 mil. So hard to argue with that big difference in money. There have only been 3 Idols to top the Forbes list of highest earning Idols (Carrie 5 times/Kelly 1 time/Adam 1 time). When Ryan Seacrest was asked who was the most successful Idol he did not hesitate to name Carrie. Carrie 7 Grammy's/Kelly's 3 Carrie 10 Billboard awards/Kelly 0 Carrie 12 American Music awards/Kelly 4 Carrie 40 for ACM/CMT/CMA country awards/Kelly's 2
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Post by lurleene on Feb 13, 2018 0:53:36 GMT -5
When did Kelly dish Idol for not supporting her enough? I know that she has had some very strong negative things to say about RCA Records and especially about Clive Davis, for not supporting her vision and creativity. They wanted to very much control what she produced music wise and she was very unhappy with that. She had to fight hard to get one of her albums released and also to get a particular song that was special to her released as a single. That song became one of her biggest hits. Some of her recent interviews about why TV was a better choice for her than Idol. She did not really bring up the Clive stuff as it was more about how TV was a better format that Idol and they were more supportive. And she wished there had been someone to support her win and the start of her career the way they do on TV. Didn't make much sense because TV winners receive very little support, but there it was. Not saying that is the reason she was not in the promo more heavily but could be part of the reason that Jennifer was more included. Or maybe not, lol.
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Post by Jablea on Feb 13, 2018 1:11:09 GMT -5
Aww, what a great moment they chose. Isn't that from the official Queen video of the IOW performance of WWTLF? During his dedication to Orlando? Such an enduring moment, like Brian said... Yeah, the lack of Clarkson seems strange to begin with, but you make a good point. Wonder why Daughtry isn't in it, though. He's a pretty big success story from Idol and was in talks to be a judge, I think? I wonder if that went sour, too.Daughtry, Adam and Kelly all said they were never in talks with Idol to judge this last time. The rumors got carried away especially with Kelly. She said she had already agreed to do TV when (to her surprise) she read that she was in talks with Idol. They may use Daughtry, Fantasia or others on other commercials in the future. So glad to see Adam name checked with a really nice picture. And remember, this is not a "commercial" it's a sponsorship buzz piece. Hey we are on ABC, hey we've got Disney backing, hey don't you want to see your logo on the judges drinks? It's not something where you want to remind corporations that they could be spending their advertising dollars over on that other show, don't confuse them with Kelly here and Kelly there. This was not for the fans except as a nice bonus.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 13, 2018 1:19:00 GMT -5
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