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Post by SusieFierce on Sept 1, 2011 18:42:06 GMT -5
NoAngel, I've got $5 that says you'll someday get your spoken-word album of pre-Raphaelite poetry!! ;D (And, if not, it's a good thing I can probably afford to lose $5.  ) Ah, but will Anthro ever get Greensleaves? God I hope so, otherwise she'll be bugging him about it for the next 50 years. |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Sept 1, 2011 18:45:05 GMT -5
Ok I know in that song he sings "avoid the void" but I can't help but hear the word NOID instead because, yes, I still remember those awful 80's commercials for Dominoes. LOL.
I can't be the only one now can I?
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Post by whatfun on Sept 1, 2011 18:47:34 GMT -5
OK...I clearly have a communication problem here so i will throw it out one more time then I will just let it go. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OLD FASHION STANDARDS. The songs I initially 'suggested' are all already in Adam's 'songbook'. Stuff he sang at Upright, on AI and on or recorded for FYE. What I said is simply that I believe there is a huge audience for straight, tuneful/melodic, relatively new or original songs, sung well. Then I listed a few of the people serving the demographic that would like and likely buy this music. IMHO there are few artists even attempting to serve this demo at the moment. That is why when someone [yes with a great backstory that really greased the wheels on these pocketbooks] came along they were thrilled to buy her stuff in droves. These people are not all closed minded peeps that would not buy from Adam...i do not believe that for a minute. Sure there will be some...but not so many more than the numbers that would not buy a Subo cd because they are too cool for her but would love to have one from Adam. I would buy it...well I would buy anything from him, let's face it haha...but my brother would buy it, and my sister, my parents if they were still alive, and countless of my friends...this I know. Right now they buy all the other afore-mentioned stuff [with the exception of my parents, obviously.] ...unless the hereafter is a music store :-) eta I did not say he should...or wanted to....I was just throwing out an observation after Subo's success was commented on....I am not trying to change Adam...good grief eta again...much of this crowd also ate up Nora Jones a few years ago, and Adele just this past year!! WHEW...it ain't that deep....sigh.... Sometimes you're gonna have an opinion where many people don't agree with you. I certainly don't, I think you're categorically wrong about this idea of yours actually being a successful strategy for Adam now or in a decade from now, let alone whether Adam would have any interest whatsoever in doing it. If Adam achieves the success in his career that we are hoping for him, there will be no need to do this type of thing because even 5, 10 or 15 years from now he will still be making his own music. I have no idea why anyone would wish anything else for him. |
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Post by paperheart on Sept 1, 2011 18:50:33 GMT -5
juniemoon and paperheart....please take a quick look back at what I was claiming. I am NOT in anyway arguing for Subo's artistic talents....what I am saying is that much of her success lies in serving a highly ignored demographic that has plenty of money in their pockets and just waiting for the right music. Currently, they will buy her, and Josh Rogan and sometimes Andrea Bocelli or Sara Brightman [when they put out their non-classical stuff] and that is about it. Part of that demo will like Buble [good grief...look at how well he sold and sells!!] but others will be uninterested in those 'American songbook' offerings...ditto Bennett. Give this demographic a cd with melodic, crisp, well sung and produced music with no condescension and compromise on quality and I predict it would sell millions. As I always say....I could be wrong... often am... I get what you were saying Muze but again I disagree that Adam would fit this niche. He's too out there to ever really do an album full of easy listening music, which is what you are talking about. Josh Groban has a beautiful voice, I own all his CDs but he's like a choir boy. It appears you think all Adam has to do is sing the songs in that style and people will flock to buy his music but it's honestly about more than just the music, it's also about the image and the comfort level of the listener. Right or wrong Adam isn't ever going to fit into that genre even if his voice (should he choose to use it that way) would be perfect for those type of songs. Not to mention that he'd alienate the fans of his who would never buy that type of music and he might never get them back if he veered that far off the path. There were plenty of people who became fans of him on AI who were seriously disappointed that he didn't go rock on his debut, however they hung around and stayed fans because he gave them just enough to keep them interested. If he went full on standards they bolt for sure IMO. The best part about Adam's talent is that as he matures so can his music. That's to say that it's possible some day, when he's finished being a rockstar he can then turn his attention to more "grown up" pursuits and he'll have the voice to pull it off. Not every pop star can say that. |
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Post by lynneville on Sept 1, 2011 18:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by Holst on Sept 1, 2011 19:06:53 GMT -5
OK...I clearly have a communication problem here so i will throw it out one more time then I will just let it go. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OLD FASHION STANDARDS. The songs I initially 'suggested' are all already in Adam's 'songbook'. Stuff he sang at Upright, on AI and on or recorded for FYE. What I said is simply that I believe there is a huge audience for straight, tuneful/melodic, relatively new or original songs, sung well. Then I listed a few of the people serving the demographic that would like and likely buy this music. IMHO there are few artists even attempting to serve this demo at the moment. That is why when someone [yes with a great backstory that really greased the wheels on these pocketbooks] came along they were thrilled to buy her stuff in droves. These people are not all closed minded peeps that would not buy from Adam...i do not believe that for a minute. Sure there will be some...but not so many more than the numbers that would not buy a Subo cd because they are too cool for her but would love to have one from Adam. I would buy it...well I would buy anything from him, let's face it haha...but my brother would buy it, and my sister, my parents if they were still alive, and countless of my friends...this I know. Right now they buy all the other afore-mentioned stuff [with the exception of my parents, obviously.] ...unless the hereafter is a music store :-) eta I did not say he should...or wanted to....I was just throwing out an observation after Subo's success was commented on....I am not trying to change Adam...good grief eta again...much of this crowd also ate up Nora Jones a few years ago, and Adele just this past year!! WHEW...it ain't that deep....sigh.... Sometimes you're gonna have an opinion where many people don't agree with you. I certainly don't, I think you're categorically wrong about this idea of yours actually being a successful strategy for Adam now or in a decade from now, let alone whether Adam would have any interest whatsoever in doing it. If Adam achieves the success in his career that we are hoping for him, there will be no need to do this type of thing because even 5, 10 or 15 years from now he will still be making his own music. I have no idea why anyone would wish anything else for him. I thought that Mszue was pretty clear in saying simply that there is a market for his Upright Cafe-type of music (contemporary balladic). I don't think she was saying that he should record it. I agree with her. Clearly there is a market because singers are making money doing this. Forgive me if I'm mis-stating your opinion, Mszue. You've tried clarifying it because people keep thinking that you are saying Adam should record such an album sometime. ETA: Many famous musicians, after years of doing their thing, successfully veer off into other genres and experiment: Classical Barbra (Streisand), Sting playing the lute and singing songs from the Renaissance, George Harrison playing sitar and ukelelee, Paul Simon incorporating African traditions. |
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Post by whatfun on Sept 1, 2011 19:20:54 GMT -5
I thought that Mszue was pretty clear in saying simply that there is a market for his Upright Cafe-type of music (contemporary balladic). I don't think she was saying that he should record it. I agree with her. Clearly there is a market because singers are making money doing this. And some people disagree that there is actually a substantial market for Adam doing that. Even if you're just talking about it theoretically for some reason. |
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Post by reihmer on Sept 1, 2011 19:30:42 GMT -5
Just want to say hello here! I'm a lurker and super busy this week, but love catching up on all the fun at Adamtopia! xoxo  Glad you de-lurked. |
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Post by reihmer on Sept 1, 2011 19:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Sept 1, 2011 19:37:26 GMT -5
Scorpios4Adam ∞ Naughty Minx ∞ @leecherry Can u tell us at what concert this picture was taken? we're having a debate. Thanks ! www.bit.ly/q5JYDD52 minutes ago in reply to ↑ @leecherry Lee Cherry @scorpios4adam I'm pretty sure it was Costa Mesa.10 minutes ago |
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