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Post by bamafan on May 21, 2018 21:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by cheriemelissa on May 21, 2018 21:15:06 GMT -5
Oh Lord....Jimmy Kimmel just pulled Sanjaya out of the Idol time capsule. He pulled out leather finger tips and Kimmel said they were from Adam Lambert's fingerless gloves.
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Post by sizzling63 on May 21, 2018 21:38:13 GMT -5
I am dropping in quickly to say that I am very grateful for this site and proud to be part of it. It is not always easy to communicate and avoid misunderstandings when everything is done pretty much in writing, in addition to different cultures flowing together. Really, really awesome that many fans - regulars and those who decided to delurk - made an effort to provide genuine and honest feedback on this fandom. I also would like to thank our moderators for running this site with patience and insight and a lot of dedication to the man - it should never be taken for granted.
About the Billboard awards ... I was unaware yesterday that they would be on, until I saw some posts here and on twitter later in the evening. While on twitter though, I must have missed the drama about Adam not being there. Why would he? I am sure he had much more fun with his friends at home. Soon he will be on the road again.
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Post by bamafan on May 21, 2018 21:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by Soaked on May 21, 2018 22:09:26 GMT -5
Hello! I have not posted for a long long time. I've been a fan of Adam since 2009. I've posted in this forum in the early days after Planet Fierce, but have opted to stay silent and just lurk these last few years. It has been super long time since my last post that i have to register again. I decided to de-lurk because i want to tell you guys that a lot of people go to this site to check what's happening in Adam's life. Like me, they might not be posting anything but they do read everything. This forum is important to a lot of people, including me. For all of you who are posting, please continue to do so. If the discussion gets intense, don't leave, just scroll or lurk. Ditto for me! Perfectly stated. De-lurk to chime in "me, three". This forum is very important. This is always the first place for me to check what is going on with Adam. Thanks for all the posters, and please keep on the good work.
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Post by lurleene on May 21, 2018 23:00:50 GMT -5
shirleyhalperin✔@shirleyhalperin "There are pioneers here like @adamlambert, who was just wholeheartedly himself and put his f---ing foot forward and didn’t hold back.” >> variety.com/2018/music/news/adam-lambert-troye-sivan-gay-songwriters-brunch-homophobia-industry-1202818291/ … Longish article. Adam bits: "James paused and gazed around the restaurant. “There are pioneers here like Adam Lambert, who was just wholeheartedly himself and put his f—ing foot forward and didn’t hold back,” he said. “A lot of people bashed him for what he did, but to be honest, I think if people like him didn’t come around when the conversations were so mum, then we couldn’t have people like Troye or myself.” The “American Idol” breakout star-turned-solo artist happened to be sitting alone with a forlorn look on his face while the brunch was winding down. Lambert likened his experience coming out to “being thrown into a pot of boiling water. It was a different time,” he told Variety. “When I was getting into music, it felt like an uphill battle. I mean, I don’t think I felt like anybody was blocking me or rejecting me because they actually had an issue with gay people,” Lambert said of his team at the record label. “But there has always been a concern — especially when I started — of: How do we connect this with a mainstream audience? A lot of these guys hadn’t done that before, the label people I was working with at the time. This was a new situation and there was no formula. There was a little fear surrounding that, surrounding the desire for success.” Admittedly, Lambert battled with internalized homophobia as well. “There were moments after my first year or two on the scene where I started getting insecure,” he said. “I started thinking: ‘Do I need to change who I am to fit in, or to achieve success?’ The thing I’ve learned the hard way is that you can’t please everybody. And ultimately, the people who do well in this business tend to be the people that just are who they are. They’re not trying to be part of a trend or dress like somebody else or become palatable. So now I’m at a point in my career where I’m being true to who I am; I’m being authentic; I’m being myself and not making any apologies for it.” I wonder why no one ever talks about the lack to radio play or asks corp radio what the deal is. They just get a pass. That is what drives the sales and the award nominations and performances and more sales. Yes, streaming is important but radio play in the US is what sends you up the charts. It sent Sam up there before everyone knew his sexuality and it resulted in sales, award show performances and wins. You really need to be in the game to have a chance. When Adam got a lot or US radio for WWFM, it resulted in sales and more high profile tv gigs. Then radio pulled back on him. They have been pulling back a bit on Sam now but he is still in there to a degree. But not like before.
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Post by Jablea on May 22, 2018 0:15:08 GMT -5
On twitter Adam (and Shoshanna) were slammed yesterday evening, because Adam wasn’t at the Billboard Awards Show himself (when he posted the vids watching the show happily from home). THAT is bad. And I’m thankful, nobody brought that over or starts these kinds of discussion here. You made a lot of good points in your post, but this illustrates something important, IMO. When people post here, they are talking amongst themselves, not to Adam. That doesn't mean people should feel free to be disrespectful, but it's not the same as going directly to Adam on social media and belittling/criticizing/mocking him because he isn't living up to their expectations. Atop is not meant to be a venue to communicate with Adam, it's meant to be a venue to communicate about him. If Adam does read here, he's eavesdropping, in a way. That isn't to say he's doing something wrong - just that he's deliberately looking in on conversations he knows aren't intended for him, and presumably he's doing that because he wants to know what people are thinking. As long as said communication is respectful, which IMO it pretty much always is, I don't see any problem if he sees conversations about things that make some people frustrated, annoyed, apprehensive, or even just somewhat unimpressed. If he sees suggestions about things he could do differently. If he sees people answering the almost decade-old question "Whadaya Want From Me?" He's free to take action or not, but knowledge is power. This is the guy who went online during Idol even when he was advised not to, and I'm sure some of the things he saw curled his hair so badly the flat iron could barely do its job. We know he continues to lurk on social media. I sincerely doubt any well-intended criticism he may see here will faze him. Love this post and totally agree. Atop is not us talking to Adam but us talking to each other about Adam. I've been on both sides of the aisle, sometimes I'll post something because I know it's not just me feeling it but sometimes others who have less desire to be vocal. At other times I'll try and be a voice of reason with the sky is not falling. For all we know Adam is much more sensitive to perceptions of his fashion sense than he is to perceptions about his body shape.
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Post by melliemom on May 22, 2018 6:13:51 GMT -5
You made a lot of good points in your post, but this illustrates something important, IMO. When people post here, they are talking amongst themselves, not to Adam. That doesn't mean people should feel free to be disrespectful, but it's not the same as going directly to Adam on social media and belittling/criticizing/mocking him because he isn't living up to their expectations. Atop is not meant to be a venue to communicate with Adam, it's meant to be a venue to communicate about him. If Adam does read here, he's eavesdropping, in a way. That isn't to say he's doing something wrong - just that he's deliberately looking in on conversations he knows aren't intended for him, and presumably he's doing that because he wants to know what people are thinking. As long as said communication is respectful, which IMO it pretty much always is, I don't see any problem if he sees conversations about things that make some people frustrated, annoyed, apprehensive, or even just somewhat unimpressed. If he sees suggestions about things he could do differently. If he sees people answering the almost decade-old question "Whadaya Want From Me?" He's free to take action or not, but knowledge is power. This is the guy who went online during Idol even when he was advised not to, and I'm sure some of the things he saw curled his hair so badly the flat iron could barely do its job. We know he continues to lurk on social media. I sincerely doubt any well-intended criticism he may see here will faze him. Love this post and totally agree. Atop is not us talking to Adam but us talking to each other about Adam. I've been on both sides of the aisle, sometimes I'll post something because I know it's not just me feeling it but sometimes others who have less desire to be vocal. At other times I'll try and be a voice of reason with the sky is not falling. For all we know Adam is much more sensitive to perceptions of his fashion sense than he is to perceptions about his body shape. Adam has talked about having body issue problems..... Having a daughter and step daughter who barely eat and are beyond thin,I'm sensitive to folks talking about how fat or thin a person should be...For my daughter it all started with someone telling her she looked too fat.. She was curvy and beautiful at the time... Many men now share the same issues and starve themselves ,especially in the gay community. To me It's an issue like politics or religion..
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Post by marionm on May 22, 2018 7:35:45 GMT -5
melliemom thanks so much for the insight. Can only imagine how tough that must be as a mother and it only makes sense that you would be sensitive to that subject. I wish the best for them. My body has also been subject to a certain amount of attention. I lost 10 pounds, from 55-56kg to 50-51kg (166cm) after my first surgery. Now I'm up to 53kg again (BMI 19). Only a few weeks prior to the surgery my grandma had asked me if had gained weight. I was sporty, muskly, I did have strong legs but I was never fat in any sense. I get "Oh your so thin" on a regular basis and it annoys me more than it affects my perception of my body, or the way and what I eat. I very slim, but I'm consider myself lean, I would absolutely not say I look fragile. Tip of the iceberg for me was only two weeks ago, when a girl said to me "you're so thin" that has a lower BMI than I do...it's like...get of my back will ya?! I always asked myself if there is no way to promote a healthy bodyimage without shaming the "extremes"?
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Post by melliemom on May 22, 2018 9:11:12 GMT -5
melliemom thanks so much for the insight. Can only imagine how tough that must be as a mother and it only makes sense that you would be sensitive to that subject. I wish the best for them. My body has also been subject to a certain amount of attention. I lost 10 pounds, from 55-56kg to 50-51kg (166cm) after my first surgery. Now I'm up to 53kg again (BMI 19). Only a few weeks prior to the surgery my grandma had asked me if had gained weight. I was sporty, muskly, I did have strong legs but I was never fat in any sense. I get "Oh your so thin" on a regular basis and it annoys me more than it affects my perception of my body, or the way and what I eat. I very slim, but I'm consider myself lean, I would absolutely not say I look fragile. Tip of the iceberg for me was only two weeks ago, when a girl said to me "you're so thin" that has a lower BMI than I do...it's like...get of my back will ya?! I always asked myself if there is no way to promote a healthy bodyimage without shaming the "extremes"? I get it.. so intrusive.. Hugs to you
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