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Post by 4EverAdam on Jun 27, 2018 18:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Jun 27, 2018 18:47:37 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on Jun 27, 2018 18:48:46 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on Jun 27, 2018 18:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on Jun 27, 2018 18:51:10 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Jun 27, 2018 18:56:23 GMT -5
Great concert...have a good evening!
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Post by nic42 on Jun 27, 2018 19:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jun 27, 2018 19:18:52 GMT -5
I learned during the San Francisco Pride rally last Sunday that Kehlani is a rising queer R&B star who also headlined at LA Pride supposedly. I had no idea who she is but she has quite a following amongst the younger audiences. She has a nice voice and a radiant stage presence, but I got bored after a while. Ada Vox performed too supposedly, but she was on earlier and I missed her - I would have loved to see her. I was wondering the whole time how Adam would have been received if he had performed at that particular rally for a crowd that was very young. The article above somewhat confirms my thoughts that Adam doesn't quite fit the profile of "pop music's rising rainbow revolution" and that there is a point in considering him more of a "pioneer" already. That is quite a recognition and an honor, however as I am very much looking forward to his new music and some sort of " new revelation" from him, this particular section of the article irks me: "If there's a face for this moment, at least on the men's side of things, it would be Sivan. And as he continues to build momentum leading into the Aug. 31 release of his second album, Bloom, there's no denying the boost he's receiving from the attention. But he's wise enough to recognize that being the poster boy for something isn't all it's cracked up to be." Well, Sivan may have learned a thing or two from Adam when it comes to the pressure of being a "poster boy" for something. I agree with you. And it makes sense as Adam has been out there carrying the weight for 9 years. It was sort of overtaken with the success of SS but when Adam started he was pretty much alone. Often under fire. No need to put him in the same class with the new kids. Sam is not as successful this time around and now Sivan is the face, until someone else comes along. Will be interesting to see how much success he actually has. And there are many more out there so hopefully Adam will get more recognitions for his work now. No antics are needed for him at this stage of his career and world recognition and success. But he will always be the first openly gay artist to have a #1 album on Billboard 200. Even when Sam's people tweeted that they were the two with that accomplishment of #1 albums, Adam will always be the only one who did it first. No small accomplishment. And Adam did two big pride concerts some years ago. I believe there were 75-80K people at the ones in Florida and PA. I thought they went over well as I never heard otherwise. But like you, I am looking forward to his new music. Still would like to know if he is signed to a label, tho, I think he is. Sept. 30 is the deadline for releases for any award considerations but that is probably not n the cards. But wishing all of the LGBT artists success.
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Post by Q3 on Jun 27, 2018 20:48:09 GMT -5
I learned during the San Francisco Pride rally last Sunday that Kehlani is a rising queer R&B star who also headlined at LA Pride supposedly. I had no idea who she is but she has quite a following amongst the younger audiences. She has a nice voice and a radiant stage presence, but I got bored after a while. Ada Vox performed too supposedly, but she was on earlier and I missed her - I would have loved to see her. I was wondering the whole time how Adam would have been received if he had performed at that particular rally for a crowd that was very young. The article above somewhat confirms my thoughts that Adam doesn't quite fit the profile of "pop music's rising rainbow revolution" and that there is a point in considering him more of a "pioneer" already. That is quite a recognition and an honor, however as I am very much looking forward to his new music and some sort of " new revelation" from him, this particular section of the article irks me: "If there's a face for this moment, at least on the men's side of things, it would be Sivan. And as he continues to build momentum leading into the Aug. 31 release of his second album, Bloom, there's no denying the boost he's receiving from the attention. But he's wise enough to recognize that being the poster boy for something isn't all it's cracked up to be." Well, Sivan may have learned a thing or two from Adam when it comes to the pressure of being a "poster boy" for something. I agree with you. And it makes sense as Adam has been out there carrying the weight for 9 years. It was sort of overtaken with the success of SS but when Adam started he was pretty much alone. Often under fire. No need to put him in the same class with the new kids. Sam is not as successful this time around and now Sivan is the face, until someone else comes along. Will be interesting to see how much success he actually has. And there are many more out there so hopefully Adam will get more recognitions for his work now. No antics are needed for him at this stage of his career and world recognition and success. But he will always be the first openly gay artist to have a #1 album on Billboard 200. Even when Sam's people tweeted that they were the two with that accomplishment of #1 albums, Adam will always be the only one who did it first. No small accomplishment. And Adam did two big pride concerts some years ago. I believe there were 75-80K people at the ones in Florida and PA. I thought they went over well as I never heard otherwise. But like you, I am looking forward to his new music. Still would like to know if he is signed to a label, tho, I think he is. Sept. 30 is the deadline for releases for any award considerations but that is probably not n the cards. But wishing all of the LGBT artists success. There is no way that Adam is signed to PhilyMack and does not have a label deal -- but we probably will not hear anything for several more months. I can't find any sign of when to start counting but it should be a 1 year gap. He signed with PhilyMack before March 21, 2018 so it could be early 2019?
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Regarding Sivan, he has achieved a modest level of commercial success as a musician so far but in new media is a big star. I have not seen him live but saw him perform live on SNL and was not impressed. He has some impressive social media stats (it helps he was a child star) - 8.5 million on IG, 8.73 million on Twitter, and his YT #s are huge. He is well positioned to reach people under 20. "My My My!" recorded in OK but live? not so great IMO.
> Aside from the biographic coincidences of Sivan and Adam both being male, gay, white and Jewish from intermarried couples, they really have little in common.
Adam, has been far more commercially successful in traditional ways but has never put the kind of effort into building a social media and YT presence that some of other artists have done. For example, he only has 1.2 million on IG.
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I just re-stumbled on this description of Adam from Logo Backlot published in 2015.
44. Adam Lambert Adam Lambert gay music artist
The current reigning champion of family friendly glam-rock, Adam Lambert is, apparently, our generation’s Freddie Mercury. No, really, he’s currently touring with the original members of Queen, picking up where the classic rock legends left off. In fact, some of the band are even saying their substitute has better pipes than the original gay superman, but that’s a debate for another time.
I find it interesting that Adam was labeled as "family friendly" -- perhaps because of Idol and Queen?
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Post by lurleene on Jun 27, 2018 21:08:18 GMT -5
I agree with you. And it makes sense as Adam has been out there carrying the weight for 9 years. It was sort of overtaken with the success of SS but when Adam started he was pretty much alone. Often under fire. No need to put him in the same class with the new kids. Sam is not as successful this time around and now Sivan is the face, until someone else comes along. Will be interesting to see how much success he actually has. And there are many more out there so hopefully Adam will get more recognitions for his work now. No antics are needed for him at this stage of his career and world recognition and success. But he will always be the first openly gay artist to have a #1 album on Billboard 200. Even when Sam's people tweeted that they were the two with that accomplishment of #1 albums, Adam will always be the only one who did it first. No small accomplishment. And Adam did two big pride concerts some years ago. I believe there were 75-80K people at the ones in Florida and PA. I thought they went over well as I never heard otherwise. But like you, I am looking forward to his new music. Still would like to know if he is signed to a label, tho, I think he is. Sept. 30 is the deadline for releases for any award considerations but that is probably not n the cards. But wishing all of the LGBT artists success. There is no way that Adam is signed to PhilyMack and does not have a label deal -- but we probably will not hear anything for several more months. I can't find any sign of when to start counting but it should be a 1 year gap. He signed with PhilyMack before March 21, 2018 so it could be early 2019?
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Regarding Sivan, he has achieved a modest level of commercial success as a musician so far but in new media is a big star. I have not seen him live but saw him perform live on SNL and was not impressed. He has some impressive social media stats (it helps he was a child star) - 8.5 million on IG, 8.73 million on Twitter, and his YT #s are huge. He is well positioned to reach people under 20. "My My My!" recorded in OK but live? not so great IMO.
> Aside from the biographic coincidences of Sivan and Adam both being male, gay, white and Jewish from intermarried couples, they really have little in common.
Adam, has been far more commercially successful in traditional ways but has never put the kind of effort into building a social media and YT presence that some of other artists have done. For example, he only has 1.2 million on IG.
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I just re-stumbled on this description of Adam from Logo Backlot published in 2015.
44. Adam Lambert Adam Lambert gay music artist
The current reigning champion of family friendly glam-rock, Adam Lambert is, apparently, our generation’s Freddie Mercury. No, really, he’s currently touring with the original members of Queen, picking up where the classic rock legends left off. In fact, some of the band are even saying their substitute has better pipes than the original gay superman, but that’s a debate for another time.
I find it interesting that Adam was labeled as "family friendly" -- perhaps because of Idol and Queen?
Agree with everything you said. And I am sort of glad that Adam is not being put in the same group as the newbies. I have not seen any big music successes from them so far but a lot of press about how bold they are and their sexuality being a non-issue. I hope they are right but I see little evidence of it yet. And thanks for the label observation! I need a little reassurance every now and then, lol.
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