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Post by rihannsu on Sept 9, 2011 21:25:49 GMT -5
Thank you, this was very good. I find the story behind this very interesting. It makes me wonder if this is a song that Bono and The Edge were aware of before U2 wrote "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in 82. It's quite an interesting parallel, a song for peace from a military band in this case and in U2's case a song with a very militaristic feel as a call to lay down arms as opposed to a call to war. In U2's case their song is credited by many involved in the Irish peace process as being instrumental to awakening a desire for a new way out of their strife, a way of moving forward without declaring either side a winner or a loser. It was a militant song of pacifism if that makes any sense at all. I love "Sunday Bloody Sunday"! And you just made me look up the lyrics for the first time (glad I did!). I don't know much about bloody Sunday, and I very much doubt U2 ever heard of Shir la-Shalom, but I like your interpretation of the song, it makes A LOT of sense, if you ask me. Bono is in a way a punk hippie. He's too aggressive and has had too many of his own battles with violence and temper to truly follow what he calls "the brown rice" model of pacifism. Many see pacifism as weakness but Bono realizes that pacifism is a battle in itself because we have to conquer the darkness within ourselves in order to surrender. The typical military mindset is that disarmament is weakness whereas Bono sees the strength and bravery that it takes to commit to non violence. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" was one song on an album titled "War" that was in essence about love. Bono's version of Onward Christian Soldiers would be marching off to love rather than to war. |
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Post by readon on Sept 9, 2011 21:27:17 GMT -5
Hebrew is my native language. I just searched youtube listening to different versions of this song, but I couldn't find a singer who has Adam's caliber of delivering emotion. However, I do feel that Adam connection to the song wasn't as strong as it is when he sings in English (which is very natural, of course). If you're interested, here's one of the song's versions in Hebrew, so you can judge for yourself. It's from the 70s, sung by Miri Aloni, accompanied by a military band/choir. (I hadn't mentioned that the song was first sung by a military band, that's what made it so scandalous). Thank you, this was very good. I find the story behind this very interesting. It makes me wonder if this is a song that Bono and The Edge were aware of before U2 wrote "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in 82. It's quite an interesting parallel, a song for peace from a military band in this case and in U2's case a song with a very militaristic feel as a call to lay down arms as opposed to a call to war. In U2's case their song is credited by many involved in the Irish peace process as being instrumental to awakening a desire for a new way out of their strife, a way of moving forward without declaring either side a winner or a loser. It was a militant song of pacifism if that makes any sense at all. Sorry, I am a little confused. I don't recall Adam singing these Hebrew songs. What performance are we comparing these to? |
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 9, 2011 21:29:55 GMT -5
Thank you, this was very good. I find the story behind this very interesting. It makes me wonder if this is a song that Bono and The Edge were aware of before U2 wrote "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in 82. It's quite an interesting parallel, a song for peace from a military band in this case and in U2's case a song with a very militaristic feel as a call to lay down arms as opposed to a call to war. In U2's case their song is credited by many involved in the Irish peace process as being instrumental to awakening a desire for a new way out of their strife, a way of moving forward without declaring either side a winner or a loser. It was a militant song of pacifism if that makes any sense at all. Sorry, I am a little confused. I don't recall Adam singing these Hebrew songs. What performance are we comparing these to? This one in particular but there are a couple of others I think. www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aNb2Qsh0F_Q |
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Post by virg1877 on Sept 9, 2011 21:30:59 GMT -5
And VIRG1877--one of YOUR beautiful Canada pics is at the top of The Sound Bath page! The Sound Bath page??????? |
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Post by kapsiz on Sept 9, 2011 21:33:40 GMT -5
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Post by virg1877 on Sept 9, 2011 21:39:35 GMT -5
Love all the BFTP....but new here, what does it stand for? Blast from the Past! Thanks for clueing me in!  |
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Post by readon on Sept 9, 2011 21:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by virg1877 on Sept 9, 2011 21:45:09 GMT -5
Oh Cool! Nice they used my pic! |
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Post by katycake on Sept 9, 2011 21:46:46 GMT -5
Bono is in a way a punk hippie. He's too aggressive and has had too many of his own battles with violence and temper to truly follow what he calls "the brown rice" model of pacifism. Many see pacifism as weakness but Bono realizes that pacifism is a battle in itself because we have to conquer the darkness within ourselves in order to surrender. The typical military mindset is that disarmament is weakness whereas Bono sees the strength and bravery that it takes to commit to non violence. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" was one song on an album titled "War" that was in essence about love. Bono's version of Onward Christian Soldiers would be marching off to love rather than to war. How fascinating! Would you say he shares some characteristics with Bob Geldof? |
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Post by nica575 on Sept 9, 2011 21:54:27 GMT -5
the only other one I know where Adam sings in Hebrew is this one: as a side story - after listening to the Shir La Shalom my mom was convinced that Adam has had cantorial training :D ... which got her to embrace him and his talent immediately ;D which in turn made my crazy affliction accepted with understanding (although she gets sarcastic about it from time to time)... |
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