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Post by bamafan on Oct 30, 2018 20:15:38 GMT -5
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Post by blackqueen65 on Oct 30, 2018 20:16:07 GMT -5
There's also computer programs to create music on as well, there's plenty ways a creative person can find if they want to. did he use computer programs to create his music? Somebody wrote here that's he should have a band, I agree with that. He could be more independent, now he have to wait for producers or composers. I'm not saying I'm right I'm only trying to understand why with an amazing voice he's still not so popular. Adam's doing great, he fronts Queen +, gets asked to be part of lots of different projects both musical and non musical and is well respected in the industry. He's not a throwaway pop star and will have longevity because he's immensely talented in lots of ways. I've no idea if he used computer programs, so far as I know no one's ever asked him, but he's not having to wait for composers, he's been writing and recording music for the last eighteen months or so and when the time's right it will get released.
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Post by elaevans on Oct 30, 2018 20:17:54 GMT -5
The way many pop songs are written these days is by committee, on an assembly line. There has been a lot written about the process. I am not a fan of the result. I was talking about that with my musician sister and my family. To illustrate what I meant, I asked my sister to play a four chord sequence on the piano. Then, I just sang notes to go with the chords, inventing a "melody line" without thinking. Easy-peasy, and not really creative at all. (I know I am not a composer!) Adam has discussed the process a couple of times, and it sounded like he worked similarly. Since he doesn't play an instrument, he cannot create the harmonic chord structure, but has to rely on someone else to lay down that foundation. He can improvise a melody line easily. He has a good ear for that. It is not composing as I know the concept, but it is what happens in pop today. Will it result in a song like Bo Rhap or WWTLF? Or As Long As You're Mine? Not in a million years. But, pop fans don't care. They like what they hear. I think you have hit the key point. It is that he cannot be successful without being able to write music or play an instrument it is that it makes creating the music and executing his vision more difficult. Having a full tool box and complete skill set makes it much easier to create a masterpiece whether it be creating a song, a piece of furniture, or a painting. The more skills you possess the better your chances of a successful outcome. Exactly!
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Post by lurleene on Oct 30, 2018 20:18:45 GMT -5
ok. He's the only one, but he played guitar and piano. Celine Dion - legend? Is that your benchmark of success, legend or bust? How about Cher? Me thinks we have a troll .. It is pretty funny. All these great writers/composers playing their instruments who are not very famous or making millions on their solo headlining tours or fronting Queen. There is no guarantee that playing an instrument or writing solo was going to get Adam more radio play in the US (that is how you get a hit). All BS. He would still be right where he is now. But that is not a bad place to be. Some could only dream while they play for little money and recognition.
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Post by lelemaple on Oct 30, 2018 20:19:31 GMT -5
Is that your benchmark of success, legend or bust? How about Cher? Me thinks we have a troll .. Nope, no troll. I just think he should be a legend that's why I'm talking about it. In 20, 50 years from now nobody will know who Kelly Clarkson was. Cher - hard to say, probably the same situation Somehow I think Cher will be remembered forever. She’s been in the public eye over 50 years already, since 1965. And love or hate her, she’s legendary, arguably as much for her acting as her music. I personally think she’s a terrific actress especially in Mask.
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Post by relaxingoceanfront on Oct 30, 2018 20:21:03 GMT -5
Is that your benchmark of success, legend or bust? How about Cher? Me thinks we have a troll .. Nope, no troll. I just think he should be a legend that's why I'm talking about it. In 20, 50 years from now nobody will know who Kelly Clarkson was. Cher - hard to say, probably the same situation Cher has already had a 50 yr career. Barbara Streisand, Toni Bennett, Bette Midler. None wrote their own songs. If you are arguing he's not a better writer because he plays no instrument, possibly. If you are arguing he can't be successful unless he writes, not true. However he doesn't seem interested in just choosing demo songs, so not sure what you are even saying anymore. He's doing it his way, even if that means he's not meeting up to your legend standards.
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Post by 4EverAdam on Oct 30, 2018 20:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by elaevans on Oct 30, 2018 20:30:29 GMT -5
Is that your benchmark of success, legend or bust? How about Cher? Me thinks we have a troll .. It is pretty funny. All these great writers/composers playing their instruments who are not very famous or making millions on their solo headlining tours or fronting Queen. There is no guarantee that playing an instrument or writing solo was going to get Adam more radio play in the US (that is how you get a hit). All BS. He would still be right where he is now. But that is not a bad place to be. Some could only dream while they play for little money and recognition. True but I have problem with him touring with Queen. He's doing amazing job but it's not creative, he's not Freddie;) it's more about money. If you want to be Queen without Freddie write new songs with Adam, but oops he can't compose...
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Post by lelemaple on Oct 30, 2018 20:30:41 GMT -5
Nope, no troll. I just think he should be a legend that's why I'm talking about it. In 20, 50 years from now nobody will know who Kelly Clarkson was. Cher - hard to say, probably the same situation Cher has already had a 50 yr career. Barbara Streisand, Toni Bennett, Bette Midler. None wrote their own songs. If you are arguing he's not a good writer because he plays no instrument, possibly. If you are arguing he can't be successful unless he writes, not true. However he doesn't seem interested in just choosing demo songs, so not sure what you are even saying anymore. He's doing it his way, even if that means he's not meeting up to your legend standards. Yup, exactly. This is a slightly different topic but what I find interesting about artists throughout history is that they look at their legacy in so many ways. I once heard Dave Grohl say that Foo foghters haven’t created their opus yet, their Bohemian Rhapsody. There aren’t too many Bo Rhaps and Stairway to Heavens throughout history, grandiose songs that just set the bar super high for other artists. That’s not to say that there’s not gazillions of legendary songs from so many artists but a handful which are on that level. So many legends throughout history and that makes me smile and legends are in the making as we speak in 2018.
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Post by blackqueen65 on Oct 30, 2018 20:38:47 GMT -5
It is pretty funny. All these great writers/composers playing their instruments who are not very famous or making millions on their solo headlining tours or fronting Queen. There is no guarantee that playing an instrument or writing solo was going to get Adam more radio play in the US (that is how you get a hit). All BS. He would still be right where he is now. But that is not a bad place to be. Some could only dream while they play for little money and recognition. True but I have problem with him touring with Queen. He's doing amazing job but it's not creative, he's not Freddie;) it's more about money. If you want to be Queen without Freddie write new songs with Adam, but oops he can't compose... They have their own reasons for not writing music together but you can be sure it's nothing to do with not being able to compose. Do you seriously imagine Brian, Roger, Spike and Adam couldn't work together to compose music, he wouldn't need to play an instrument for that, have you seen the way Queen wrote some of their music? If not I suggest you take a stroll through YouTube, you'll see their songwriting process is nothing like you seem to be imagining. And writing oops while trying to pretend you aren't a troll doesn't really cut it!!
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