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Post by Craazyforadam on Dec 31, 2018 2:09:54 GMT -5
I am sure somebody can correct any misconceptions that I have about the notice that Adam is available for hire for private events, etc.... I know he was entertainment for a private party recently. But when I read that he was for hire, it seemed a bit reductive to me, given the nature of Adam’s stardom, I don’t see how advertising or performing events such as these can be seen to contribute to his ascendency. After all, he was referred to as an A-Lister in some publication during these past few wonderful days! I hope he saw this article. No more referring to himself as a C-lList celebrity, I hope. I don’t think that a lot of us plus many others thought of him as a C-Lister anyway, but maybe he won’t now. Anyway, if anyone can clear up the above—in other words, maybe It is a usual thing for big stars to perform at private events, thus Adam’s management hiring him out is a customary and possibly prestigious thing—I would appreciate it. www.celebrity-direct.com/hire-a-celebrity/music/hire-katy-perry/The fact is, most celebrity singers are technically for hire, the main difference is the price - Katy Perry could be had for a mere $1.9M for your wedding back in 2013. I am sure the price has gone up since then thanks to inflation and American Idol www.moneytalksnews.com/katy-perry-will-sing-at-your-wedding-for-less-than-1-9-million/So nothing bad there, the question we don't have the answer to is what was the price for getting Adam to Manila... Probably less than the next party is going to have to pay in 2019, I'd guess. I think his domestic demand for events is going to especially rise. This KCH has been a rediscovery for many. I think the biggest change I see is in public attitude. He is seen as exiting and refreshing and creative and new, totally different than a few years ago. And I agree that it is this combination of the new found respect for Queen in the US because of BR, and now this performance. Nice wave to ride.
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Post by phronni7 on Dec 31, 2018 2:11:02 GMT -5
Thanks, Bamafan and Kryptonan68, for helping me to understand about how common it is for even the bigger name singers to offer to perform at private events. I knew someone on here would know.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 31, 2018 2:18:33 GMT -5
Thanks, Bamafan and Kryptonan68, for helping me to understand about how common it is for even the bigger name singers to offer to perform at private events. I knew someone on here would know.
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Post by pi on Dec 31, 2018 2:51:16 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Dec 31, 2018 2:53:20 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Dec 31, 2018 3:19:21 GMT -5
Probably less than the next party is going to have to pay in 2019, I'd guess. I think his domestic demand for events is going to especially rise. This KCH has been a rediscovery for many. I think the biggest change I see is in public attitude. He is seen as exiting and refreshing and creative and new, totally different than a few years ago. And I agree that it is this combination of the new found respect for Queen in the US because of BR, and now this performance. Nice wave to ride.You are absolutely right. I was reading on another site and they were gushing over the "Believe" performance. Then one person said I had always viewed him as a dance club artist but I view him differently now. I thought, what. On Idol he was known for his beautiful ballads and rock performances. Same with Queen. And even with his pop solo work, he has not been killing it on the dance club charts. He has FYE at #5, NCOE #6 and ALN #3 on the dance club charts and that is it. Kelly Clarkson on the other hand has 4#1 and 1#2 and #7 dance club hits and some lower on that chart. They love and play their divas more than they love and play Adam for the dance club charts, lol. But no such dismissal for her. But I am happy for the rediscovery for him.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Dec 31, 2018 4:11:31 GMT -5
Probably less than the next party is going to have to pay in 2019, I'd guess. I think his domestic demand for events is going to especially rise. This KCH has been a rediscovery for many. I think the biggest change I see is in public attitude. He is seen as exiting and refreshing and creative and new, totally different than a few years ago. And I agree that it is this combination of the new found respect for Queen in the US because of BR, and now this performance. Nice wave to ride.You are absolutely right. I was reading on another site and they were gushing over the "Believe" performance. Then one person said I had always viewed him as a dance club artist but I view him differently now. I thought, what. On Idol he was known for his beautiful ballads and rock performances. Same with Queen. And even with his pop solo work, he has not been killing it on the dance club charts. He has FYE at #5, NCOE #6 and ALN #3 on the dance club charts and that is it. Kelly Clarkson on the other hand has 4#1 and 1#2 and #7 dance club hits and some lower on that chart. They love and play their divas more than they love and play Adam for the dance club charts, lol. But no such dismissal for her. But I am happy for the rediscovery for him. I think that this public confusion has more to do with Adam's own internal struggle. He wants to do the lighter stuff for his own sake, to lift his own spirit, but he gets praise mostly for the ballads. On idol, the public remembers Mad World, but did PTFMWB leave any lasting impression? Probably not.
I think that Adam rightfully feels that all the heavy stuff would create a somber mood, and also for him, it would be difficult not to be dragged down by it, giving that he truly emotes, and therefore has to climb into the mood of what he is singing about. But songs like WWTLF or now Believe mean so much to us, exactly because they touch us deeply, and not many people can deliver vocals on such a emotional level. But for Adam they are probably hard to deliver night after night.
The thing is, Adam has never done a ballad on an album. And I think he is overdue for one. He has a lot of dance material from the past three albums to use in live settings, and probably will have a few more again, because that is what he wants to do, but I would love to have a few ballads and I think from a career standpoint they will carry him further. People first need to engage, be interested, listen. Then when you have got their attention, you can invite them to the party too. At least that is how I think he could really reach the wider public with this next round of music.
Question is: is Adam up for it? Can he find that uplifting ballad, that does not weigh so heavy on him as a performer, that he can on one hand relate to it, but that it also, on the other hand, propels him forward. And can he find a way to do different segments in his concert, like he did in the past, but let one segment be dominated by more interpretive music. Btw, I like Adam speaking lyrics as well. Or mixing singing and speaking. That works quite well for him, me thinks.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Dec 31, 2018 4:59:46 GMT -5
You are absolutely right. I was reading on another site and they were gushing over the "Believe" performance. Then one person said I had always viewed him as a dance club artist but I view him differently now. I thought, what. On Idol he was known for his beautiful ballads and rock performances. Same with Queen. And even with his pop solo work, he has not been killing it on the dance club charts. He has FYE at #5, NCOE #6 and ALN #3 on the dance club charts and that is it. Kelly Clarkson on the other hand has 4#1 and 1#2 and #7 dance club hits and some lower on that chart. They love and play their divas more than they love and play Adam for the dance club charts, lol. But no such dismissal for her. But I am happy for the rediscovery for him. I think that this public confusion has more to do with Adam's own internal struggle. He wants to do the lighter stuff for his own sake, to lift his own spirit, but he gets praise mostly for the ballads. On idol, the public remembers Mad World, but did PTFMWB leave any lasting impression? Probably not.
I think that Adam rightfully feels that all the heavy stuff would create a somber mood, and also for him, it would be difficult not to be dragged down by it, giving that he truly emotes, and therefore has to climb into the mood of what he is singing about. But songs like WWTLF or now Believe mean so much to us, exactly because they touch us deeply, and not many people can deliver vocals on such a emotional level. But for Adam they are probably hard to deliver night after night.
The thing is, Adam has never done a ballad on an album. And I think he is overdue for one. He has a lot of dance material from the past three albums to use in live settings, and probably will have a few more again, because that is what he wants to do, but I would love to have a few ballads and I think from a career standpoint they will carry him further. People first need to engage, be interested, listen. Then when you have got their attention, you can invite them to the party too. At least that is how I think he could really reach the wider public with this next round of music.
Question is: is Adam up for it? Can he find that uplifting ballad, that does not weigh so heavy on him as a performer, that he can on one hand relate to it, but that it also, on the other hand, propels him forward. And can he find a way to do different segments in his concert, like he did in the past, but let one segment be dominated by more interpretive music. Btw, I like Adam speaking lyrics as well. Or mixing singing and speaking. That works quite well for him, me thinks.
What is PTFMWB? I too think Adam would have an easier time getting a big hit with a very emotional ballad.
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Post by toramenor on Dec 31, 2018 5:54:49 GMT -5
I think that this public confusion has more to do with Adam's own internal struggle. He wants to do the lighter stuff for his own sake, to lift his own spirit, but he gets praise mostly for the ballads. On idol, the public remembers Mad World, but did PTFMWB leave any lasting impression? Probably not.
I think that Adam rightfully feels that all the heavy stuff would create a somber mood, and also for him, it would be difficult not to be dragged down by it, giving that he truly emotes, and therefore has to climb into the mood of what he is singing about. But songs like WWTLF or now Believe mean so much to us, exactly because they touch us deeply, and not many people can deliver vocals on such a emotional level. But for Adam they are probably hard to deliver night after night.
The thing is, Adam has never done a ballad on an album. And I think he is overdue for one. He has a lot of dance material from the past three albums to use in live settings, and probably will have a few more again, because that is what he wants to do, but I would love to have a few ballads and I think from a career standpoint they will carry him further. People first need to engage, be interested, listen. Then when you have got their attention, you can invite them to the party too. At least that is how I think he could really reach the wider public with this next round of music.
Question is: is Adam up for it? Can he find that uplifting ballad, that does not weigh so heavy on him as a performer, that he can on one hand relate to it, but that it also, on the other hand, propels him forward. And can he find a way to do different segments in his concert, like he did in the past, but let one segment be dominated by more interpretive music. Btw, I like Adam speaking lyrics as well. Or mixing singing and speaking. That works quite well for him, me thinks.
What is PTFMWB? I too think Adam would have an easier time getting a big hit with a very emotional ballad. I think PTFMWB here stands for Play That Funky Music White Boy
I think Adam has released a few emotional ballads. There were some rock ballads, and there was Outlaws of Love - which is emotional, but more internal perhaps.
But let's not forget, and this bears repeating - Adam is an openly gay artist, and some people still have a problem with that. We will never know how much that has affected his career, but it is definitely an issue. Don't be fooled by appearances of equality. LGBT people are still consciously or unconsciously discriminated against and are given less chances and opportunities than straight people - no matter how famous or talented they are. Hopefully that will change one day. But it has not changed yet. Our blessing is that Adam Lambert's talent is so huge that it cannot be denied. If he was any less than perfect, the masses would have rejected him and criticized him for not being perfect. That's not just a double standard, that's how the "majority" always tries to put down any minority, or oppressed group: that's why women have to work twice as hard and be twice as good as men in the same positions to be given any credit or equal salaries (just to give an example of how this works in real life every day). As a feminist and an LGBT activist, I sincerely hope this will change soon, but sometimes I despair when I hear stories that tell me how little some things have actually changed despite all the laws and other stuff. And I'm talking across the globe, not just the US. (Disclaimer: I'm not from the US, but I still read LGBT-related news coming from there.)
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Dec 31, 2018 7:16:28 GMT -5
What is PTFMWB? I too think Adam would have an easier time getting a big hit with a very emotional ballad. I think PTFMWB here stands for Play That Funky Music White Boy
I think Adam has released a few emotional ballads. There were some rock ballads, and there was Outlaws of Love - which is emotional, but more internal perhaps.
But let's not forget, and this bears repeating - Adam is an openly gay artist, and some people still have a problem with that. We will never know how much that has affected his career, but it is definitely an issue. Don't be fooled by appearances of equality. LGBT people are still consciously or unconsciously discriminated against and are given less chances and opportunities than straight people - no matter how famous or talented they are. Hopefully that will change one day. But it has not changed yet. Our blessing is that Adam Lambert's talent is so huge that it cannot be denied. If he was any less than perfect, the masses would have rejected him and criticized him for not being perfect. That's not just a double standard, that's how the "majority" always tries to put down any minority, or oppressed group: that's why women have to work twice as hard and be twice as good as men in the same positions to be given any credit or equal salaries (just to give an example of how this works in real life every day). As a feminist and an LGBT activist, I sincerely hope this will change soon, but sometimes I despair when I hear stories that tell me how little some things have actually changed despite all the laws and other stuff. And I'm talking across the globe, not just the US. (Disclaimer: I'm not from the US, but I still read LGBT-related news coming from there.)
To be a really big hit, the emotional ballard needs to be universally relatable. The Believe lyrics are so universal, and simply expressed, that almost everyone can relate to it. Adam's songs, at least the ones he writes, tend to be about more complex emotional subjects and more complex in expression. For example, There I Said It, my favorite song on the TOH album, is not as universally relatable as Believe. Not sure I am saying this in a way that gets my point across. I love Outlaws, especially the live acoustic version from Canada, but I personally don't relate much to the song lyrics. And while the vocals on the CD are done as a ballad, the instrumentals are done in a Latin rhythm, i.e , in the dance world, a Rumba.
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