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Post by thebean on Jan 7, 2019 17:14:46 GMT -5
Although I loved Bohemian Rhapsody and Rami's performance and I'm happy for their Golden Globe wins. I don't think Adam is getting the true credit he should for his part in this. Queen + Adam Lambert have been selling out tours for several years all over the world, I really believe Adam breathed New Life in the States and internationally into Queen and their music. I think he elevated Freddie to an entirely new level for both old Queen fans and new. I wish someone had expressed that last night at the Golden Globes. Everyone will remember Rami's lovely words for Freddie, unfortunately these words have been spoken time and time again by Adam and only those who have attended the concerts or the glamberts even know it. I just truly feel Adam's impact and contribution on this entire Queen phenomenon is extraordinary and should not be going unnoticed in the media. It would be nice if Rami had ever shown appreciation or complimented Adam the way Adam has done for him.
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Post by thebean on Jan 7, 2019 17:23:04 GMT -5
While I did not want to hijack the well deserved glory moments for Bohemian Rhapsody and Rami last night in order to promote Adam, my heart wanted him to get a bit of credit too. After all, without him Brian and Roger would likely be at a very different place right now. Not sure if they would have had the confidence as "grey haired past icons" to push for the movie to be finished and promoted. Of course they would have. QPL is a huge business.This film was long in the works before Adam, even with the starts and fits of directors, scripts etc. As much as I love QAL and its success, I keep my rose colored glasses to a minimum with regards to Adam and the film. QPL is a machine and live touring is just one piece of it. I would never underestimate their appetite for getting this film made. No Rose Colored Glasses regarding the movie here! Make no mistake Adam's contribution thru sold out concerts and raving reviews for several years is huge to the current appeal and excitement of Queen and definitely helped bring interest and success to this movie. He helped the movie, NOT the other way around.
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Post by svca on Jan 7, 2019 17:27:54 GMT -5
I'm sort of the opposite mindset...I think the movie and last night's event was about Queen and Freddie....not Marc Martel, not Paul Rogers and not Adam, as much as I love Adam with Queen.
And I'm not sure why Rami would be expected to thank or compliment Adam...Adam had nothing to do with Rami's success in portraying Freddie. I'm not sure I understand that.
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Post by relaxingoceanfront on Jan 7, 2019 17:39:21 GMT -5
I'm sort of the opposite mindset...I think the movie and last night's event was about Queen and Freddie....not Marc Martel, not Paul Rogers and not Adam, as much as I love Adam with Queen. And I'm not sure why Rami would be expected to thank or compliment Adam...Adam had nothing to do with Rami's success in portraying Freddie. I'm not sure I understand that. Yep. This was a massive band for many, many years with a beloved front man. People went to the movie to see Freddie and Queen’s story. The QAL tour tickets sold faster due to the movie, but the movie was not popular due to Adam and their recent tours, as successful as they have been. And they were successful and now an extra boost! But this movie would have had the interest either way. Look at the US box office, when significant portions of the country not even getting a QAL show at all. And not for a second do I think Brian and Roger would have lacked any confidence in getting this story told.
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Post by lurleene on Jan 7, 2019 17:49:31 GMT -5
I'm sort of the opposite mindset...I think the movie and last night's event was about Queen and Freddie....not Marc Martel, not Paul Rogers and not Adam, as much as I love Adam with Queen. And I'm not sure why Rami would be expected to thank or compliment Adam...Adam had nothing to do with Rami's success in portraying Freddie. I'm not sure I understand that.I agree. It would not make sense for Rami to thank Adam and I doubt Adam would have wanted that. Rami is mainly responsible for the success of BR and the love of Queen/Freddie is mainly responsible for getting so many people around the world into the theaters. Adam is highly recognized for the current success of Queen touring full arenas around the world and being in the press a lot for these current years. His achievements in that area cannot be diminished or overlooked. And I think in some small way, his success with the band as the frontman got a lot of fans to take note of the movie because it made them current. But no acknowledgement of that was needed or expected. Tho it is rather odd for some in the press to say the movie caused Queen to be in demand for tours. It was Adam who is the most responsible for that (just ask Brian and Roger who would know better than anyone else) but the BR exposure can only help raise his/their status even more. Adam gets his praise where it counts (for him) on the stage in front of sold out arenas and in the press while touring. Rami did the right thing by making it about Freddie/Queen because that was what the movie was about where he played the lead character and won an award.
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Post by sizzling63 on Jan 7, 2019 17:54:43 GMT -5
While I did not want to hijack the well deserved glory moments for Bohemian Rhapsody and Rami last night in order to promote Adam, my heart wanted him to get a bit of credit too. After all, without him Brian and Roger would likely be at a very different place right now. Not sure if they would have had the confidence as "grey haired past icons" to push for the movie to be finished and promoted. Of course they would have. QPL is a huge business.This film was long in the works before Adam, even with the starts and fits of directors, scripts etc. As much as I love QAL and its success, I keep my rose colored glasses to a minimum with regards to Adam and the film. QPL is a machine and live touring is just one piece of it. I would never underestimate their appetite for getting this film made. I don't know enough about the business of a well oiled machine like Queen, but while trying to put myself outside of the Adam bubble quite frequently, I can't help but think that some credits to Adam at least in spirit can't be argued. I am wondering if Brian and Roger were thinking similarly last night, not that I was expecting an Adam mention at all. Not last night.
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Post by taumbu on Jan 7, 2019 17:54:52 GMT -5
I'm sort of the opposite mindset...I think the movie and last night's event was about Queen and Freddie....not Marc Martel, not Paul Rogers and not Adam, as much as I love Adam with Queen. And I'm not sure why Rami would be expected to thank or compliment Adam...Adam had nothing to do with Rami's success in portraying Freddie. I'm not sure I understand that. I agree with you on this. Bohemian Rhapsody is about Queen With Freddie years. This film has been over 10 years in the making, long before Adam joined Queen. Frankly I think the huge success of the film will cause more people to want to see Queen and experience the brilliance of Adam singing their songs. Just the way new generations experienced Bohemian Rhapsody in Mike Meyers film. I do wonder though how it felt for Sasha Baron Cohen who was up for another award to see the best actor award go to another actor for a part he was scheduled to play.
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Post by 3ku1 on Jan 7, 2019 18:01:34 GMT -5
My opinion and likely unpopular ... Rami continues the tradition of physical transformation being rewarded - something I found really distracting when I saw the movie...worst wig ever and the overbite from hell made 5x worse than Freddie’s was - but awards love that stuff so no surprise he won. The elephant in the room of the movie is it’s probably the first movie to win where not only was the original director (main director Bryan Singer) not present he wasn’t even mentioned. And while I agree the critical drubbing was a bit over the top and The movie was a perfectly pleasant way to spend a few hours, l also didn’t feel like it was an award winning level film. YMMV. I think it was less about the physical transformation that was rewarded and much more about Rami's acting. His physical resemblance sure helped but the way he transpired Freddie's stage demeanor especially during the Live Aid scene was a stunner for me. Yeah I agree I think Ramis live Aid performance was phenomenal. It was really like seeing Freddie himself in 1985. It was a stunner. I think theirs a bit of a backlash. As films that are not critically acclaimed and don’t win best director. Don’t normally win major awards. So this is kinda unprecedented. The film matches SIB and Vice. Particularly in Screenplay and Cinematography.
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Post by thebean on Jan 7, 2019 18:05:07 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I wasn't speaking about Rami giving credit to Adam last night. I was thinking about Brian. Adam has spoken up highly of Rami on several occasions I was merely saying that in several other instances Rami could have said something nice about Adam or maybe tweeted about Adam after seeing them in concert, he said nothing to compliment Adam after going to a queen +Adam Lambert concert himself as far as I know. Queen + Adam has sold out concerts all over the world prior to this movie so to say the movie is promoting them is ridiculous. This movie has been in works for many years and I know a lot of young concertgoers that found out about Queen in the last six years probably would not have been interested in going to this movie had they not seen Queen + Adam Lambert in concert. I saw Queen + Adam Lambert because I'm a glamberts, I was with a 30 year old and a 33 year old, neither one of them were big Queen fans and only knew a couple of the songs. They both went to see the movie because they loved the concert with Queen and Adam.
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Post by thebean on Jan 7, 2019 18:07:36 GMT -5
Don't understand me I think Rami did a phenomenal job and should have won best performance. I just think people, and surprisingly many so-called Adam fans are under estimating how much 6 years of successful touring may have done for this movie!
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