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Post by katycake on Sept 26, 2011 12:56:56 GMT -5
I too was struck by the "not that hard" statement but in a very positive way. I think Adam was addressing specifically the despair that many parents feel when they first learn their kid is gay. Even if they are a tolerant person themselves, they're afraid that their kid is going to have a hard life and be alone, perhaps an outcast, perhaps emotionally tortured all their lives. Adam was saying that he is living proof that you can have a life that is not hard, but great. That parents shouldn't have to bear this burden of worry. Yes, I think your interpretation sounds exactly like Adam's positive optimistic POV! |
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Post by marie23 on Sept 26, 2011 12:58:35 GMT -5
I'm neither here nor there, regarding the fans going to the event. But what I think the people that have an offense to it are saying is that, I guess they feel that these fans just went because of Adam and don't really care about or care to support the cause, but just want to be close to Adam. Almost like how they were reported to act like at the GLAAD awards when Adam was performing, as in only caring in enough as it pertains to Adam but not in the cause itself?
Just trying to clarify what I think some of the people on here are thinking. And if it's not and I'm way off base, sorry.
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Post by katycake on Sept 26, 2011 13:04:19 GMT -5
ETA WOAH....what happened to my avi???? How does that happen? And when I went to attach a big shrugging smiley....they are mostly gone too!!! well I suppose that means I am not being singled out, at least....yikes!! ETA2...it is back....wtf I thought mine was the only disappearing-reappearing magic avi... 8-) |
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Post by marie23 on Sept 26, 2011 13:07:28 GMT -5
Yup, I assume that's what he meant. I am not sure I agree with him re the "it's not hard" statement... perhaps he was trying to be super inspirational, not sure it worked though... I need to listen a couple of more times, to understand. It seems to me he talked himself into advising people to move to an area that is gay-friendly - which is of course what he had done...but isn't that exactly the "hard" part? (live in a ghetto to be accepted? - dramatizing here...) I think maybe Adam was not totally clear, but it obviously wasn't a prepared formal speech, so I cut him a bit of slack. I believe that Adam's opinions are still evolving, and I think he might be operating under some mistaken assumptions. Not all metropolitan areas are gay-friendly. Not all non-metropolitan areas are gay-hostile. Finding kindred spirits is wonderful, and/but if the rest of society is hateful, that is an intolerable situation. Society itself must evolve, laws must evolve. It is getting better, but it's not always "fun." I think Adam does know this, but he was striking an optimistic tone and he is an optimist. I think many of us are learning as is Adam, and I give him lots of credit for how far he's come from where he started, considering how ridiculously busy he's been. Yeah, but I think that in finding that accepting and friendly community is also what helps you to be comfortable and accepting of oneself, At least I think that's the case when it comes to Adam. If you can have, or live in an accepting, nurturing and loving environment, it can help you get strength to go out there and to deal with others, whereas their views and actions may not be as kind towards you. |
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Post by 8toinfinity on Sept 26, 2011 13:11:30 GMT -5
I too was struck by the "not that hard" statement but in a very positive way. I think Adam was addressing specifically the despair that many parents feel when they first learn their kid is gay. Even if they are a tolerant person themselves, they're afraid that their kid is going to have a hard life and be alone, perhaps an outcast, perhaps emotionally tortured all their lives.
Adam was saying that he is living proof that you can have a life that is not hard, but great. That parents shouldn't have to bear this burden of worry. As for the moving to a big city ... I've watched enough "It Gets Better" videos to see that this is exactly what many of the adults are telling the kids. Just get through high school and then escape to a community where you will be accepted. My take on that advice is that it shouldn't be that way, but it still is ... ITA. I am the mother of a gay son that grew up in So Cal with liberal accepting parents, friends and family. Even his grandparents were wonderful and accepting. HOWEVER, we were caught more off-guard than Leila and Eber, although we had suspected on occasion, it wasn't clear to us that he was gay. I despaired in private for the struggle he had gone through and those he might have to face ahead of him. Also for the grandchildren I probably wouldn't have and the idea that he might be alone through life. Thoughts of aids flash through your mind and beatings by bullies. I got over it quickly though. He had clearly become part of a wonderful, diverse (not without their problems) community. Has always lived in "accepting" areas - that no one would call ghetto's by any stretch of the imagination. We have been accepted by his group and he and his friends accepted by ours. Parties are so much fun! I think Adam was trying to assure loved ones of gays/lesbians, that life goes on much the same for them when they're not in a repressive environment. I would advise an adult gay child to move to an accepting area as soon as they could manage to do so. College is a good place to start. I think straight people in the repressive communities bear the burden of changing their environments into safe places for LGBT folks. |
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Post by happy on Sept 26, 2011 13:18:27 GMT -5
Thanks to those who brought us pics and video. I loved seeing Adam and his mom at this event. I wouldn't over-analyze what he says when he's speaking off the cuff and not from a prepared speech. I do wish he would stop using the word notoriety instead of fame. I've noticed he has done this before. Someone should tweet him and let him know that notoriety is fame in a bad way. I don't want our Adam to be notorious!!!
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Post by gelly14 on Sept 26, 2011 13:19:49 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Sept 26, 2011 13:19:54 GMT -5
I posted this since Adam retweeted Gaga's tweet the other day. lyndseyparker Lyndsey Parker Watch this very touching Lady Gaga video from the iHeartRadio Festival; a MUST-see... yhoo.it/namcqD20 minutes ago ladygaga Lady Gaga by adamlambert Jamey Rodemeyer, 14 yrs old, took his life because of bullying. tinyurl.com/6e7n49s . Bullying must become be illegal. It is a hate crime. 21 Sep |
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Post by wal on Sept 26, 2011 13:21:51 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing your story, 8toinfinity. I wish all the best for your son.
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Post by pjd on Sept 26, 2011 13:26:08 GMT -5
Thanks to those who brought us pics and video. I loved seeing Adam and his mom at this event. I wouldn't over-analyze what he says when he's speaking off the cuff and not from a prepared speech. I do wish he would stop using the word notoriety instead of fame. I've noticed he has done this before. Someone should tweet him and let him know that notoriety is fame in a bad way. I don't want our Adam to be notorious!!! I have noticed this also - I have also noticed him stop and change words when he starts to say "famous". I think this is related to the discussion yesterday of not wanting to appear cocky or arrogant. He seems uncomfortable with referring to himself as "famous" and is using "notoriety" as a less egoistic version of the word. |
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