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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 20:59:29 GMT -5
I have been doing consumer research for decades -- a lot of it in entertainment product -- and the research work I have done does not support the above comment. But I have not researched Adam's product and associated buyer attitudes/behavior.
It is OK to have a personal opinion and write about it. But if you want to speak for a large percentage of consumers and make generalization about buyer behavior, support it with some facts.
It is OK to say "I do not look at disclosures......" or "I/my mom/my friend bought TO and was fooled...."
I have no idea why or who bought TO but I have met several fans at Adam concerts who actually like the music. So at least some people know exactly what they purchased, others maybe not.
Opinions are great, facts are much more compelling. But let's not mix them up.Given this, if you Q3 or anyone else has links to articles we can read about buyer behavior in this situation, I'd find it interesting and maybe informative. Without seeing the stats myself or linked studies I pretty much assume everything I'm reading in fan forums is personal opinion, and I have no way of evaluating for myself whether based on assumptions or actual fact unless there is an outside link. I would think that almost everything we post here, besides links and videos is opinion. IMO<<< shouldn't have to say that BTW, if we have about 10 members who got Take One as gifts, on this small board, I don't think saying several thousand were bought by people who thought it was the real Adam Lambert is that far out of whack! My Target had it almost as long as they had FYE and for part of that time Take One was in Best Sellers and FYE was filed in the alphabet section! :( That being said, I don't think BFM will derail the success of Adam #2. However, the incident with all the i-Heart radio stations today is a good example of what can happen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 21:06:06 GMT -5
Is anybody in the X-Factor thread, cause I have rant about something? I just went there but you're not there! LOL!
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Post by hoopla1 on Oct 13, 2011 21:07:26 GMT -5
Along with what Nonotme said, @lambossesed was explaining on twitter how to get Adam's legitimate CDs at the top of Amazon: lambosessed Do u hang out at any forums? Maybe post a few Amazon links to official stuff & get a few ppl to spread, click, search, comment etc.
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Post by 4Ms on Oct 13, 2011 21:08:30 GMT -5
Is anybody in the X-Factor thread, cause I have rant about something? I just went there but you're not there! LOL! I'll go. I'm too tired to rant, need someone to do it for me.
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Post by Q3 on Oct 13, 2011 21:09:37 GMT -5
Given this, if you Q3 or anyone else has links to articles we can read about buyer behavior in this situation, I'd find it interesting and maybe informative. Without seeing the stats myself or linked studies I pretty much assume everything I'm reading in fan forums is personal opinion, and I have no way of evaluating for myself whether based on assumptions or actual fact unless there is an outside link. I would think that almost everything we post here, besides links and videos is opinion. IMO<<< shouldn't have to say that BTW, if we have about 10 members who got Take One as gifts, on this small board, I don't think saying several thousand were bought by people who thought it was the real Adam Lambert is that far out of whack! My Target had it almost as long as they had FYE and for part of that time Take One was in Best Sellers and FYE was filed in the alphabet section! :( That being said, I don't think BFM will derail the success of Adam #2. However, the incident with all the i-Heart radio stations today is a good example of what can happen. A few things have moved from opinion/guess to posted as fact status over the past couple of years. I think it is really important that we separate the guesses from the facts. Perhaps instead of Urban Myths we should label them Adam Myths. But on the more important note ---- I really do not believe BFM will have any material effect one way or the other on Adam 2.
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Post by marie23 on Oct 13, 2011 21:23:32 GMT -5
Is anybody in the X-Factor thread, cause I have rant about something? I just went there but you're not there! LOL! Oh hehe, I ended up leaving, and said it's not worth it. ETA: Alright posted, was gonna let it slide, but there was just a few factors that was a little annoying to me.
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Post by irish1139 on Oct 13, 2011 21:33:17 GMT -5
Thank you Q3.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 21:33:38 GMT -5
I would love to field an Adam Lambert study and quantify the effect of the FYE album cover. I actually think it was the biggest miss of the FYE era and cost Adam sales but I would love to know what it really did. That's interesting. I wonder what the next cover will look like . . . Adam photographs SO BEAUTIFULLY, so I hope the next one will just unequivocably hit it out of the park. (I like album's FYE cover, and I love that Adam loved it, but it's certainly not my favorite pic of him by any means . . .) BFM didn't use Adam's pic, like Take One did, and it made me wonder if - somehow - at least his image was somehow "off limits" to them . . . (the cover they did use is inexplicable to me - a kid peeking over some sort of graffiti-ed ramp or something? why?)
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Post by kapsiz on Oct 13, 2011 21:40:02 GMT -5
Whenever I see Q3 or any Mod, correcting or modifying a post IN GREEN TYPE, my mind goes back to when I was 3-4 and asked my Granny what the traffic light colors were. She told me - green = go; red = stop; yellow = caution (I pronounced that causha then ) So I am always thinking "it should be in RED NOT GREEN" TMI - Sorry, just thought I'd share! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 21:45:56 GMT -5
Yeah that! ^^^^^ :(
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