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Post by NoAngel on Oct 14, 2011 14:42:49 GMT -5
Does anyone know if that "review" is a site with any cred, or is it just some random guy's blog? Okay, I've been watching things unfold today. I feel like those who were hoping that this would not get a lot of mainstream attention might be wrong, and the barn has run out of the gate (or whatever that saying is.) Obviously there is a concerted effort by the rogue album people to promo these albums to the full extent they can. I've mentioned this before, and I believe it more than ever-- this whole mess might be spun into PR gold. Let it become a big old Gate, with lots of press and opportunities for Adam to speak his mind (and promo the shit out of his real music!) As the reviewer states, " Virtually evey major recording artist over the last 50 years has had early career demos or pre-fame for-hire experiments unearthed in glorified bootleg form. It's almost a rite of passage, the aural equivalent of an unauthorized celebrity biography, or finding your name atop billboards for a reissued B-movie you appeared in for seven minutes." If you look at it this way, the whole debacle actually gives Adam cred both as a long-term musician, and sympathy votes for being an artist fucked over by past collaborators. Honestly, at this point I'm hoping for more press, not less. This could be the best Gate ever, and it's actually about the music and artistry and ethics and all those things we care about! I realize this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not the hiding-behind-couches type...  |
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Post by durberville on Oct 14, 2011 14:43:07 GMT -5
HAPPY BIRTHDAY jesse555!!
AND A BIG OL' WELCOME ICEISH!!!
....my mellow has been seriously harshed with these new bastard album developments. Grrrrrrr......
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Post by stardust on Oct 14, 2011 14:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by chasingeden on Oct 14, 2011 14:58:31 GMT -5
I've mentioned this before, and I believe it more than ever-- this whole mess might be spun into PR gold. [...] If you look at it this way, the whole debacle actually gives Adam cred both as a long-term musician, and sympathy votes for being an artist fucked over by past collaborators. Honestly, at this point I'm hoping for more press, not less. This could be the best Gate ever, and it's actually about the music and artistry and ethics and all those things we care about! I realize this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not the hiding-behind-couches type... I like this train of thought. Remember when FYE album cover first came out and it was picked up by many, mainstream press included. Adam is a dialogue builder, like a bridge, if you will. I do see him come out on top when all is said and done. Let's hope his first single truly explodes...  |
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Post by Alison on Oct 14, 2011 15:01:22 GMT -5
Does anyone know if that "review" is a site with any cred, or is it just some random guy's blog? Okay, I've been watching things unfold today. I feel like those who were hoping that this would not get a lot of mainstream attention might be wrong, and the barn has run out of the gate (or whatever that saying is.) Obviously there is a concerted effort by the rogue album people to promo these albums to the full extent they can. I've mentioned this before, and I believe it more than ever-- this whole mess might be spun into PR gold. Let it become a big old Gate, with lots of press and opportunities for Adam to speak his mind (and promo the shit out of his real music!) As the reviewer states, " Virtually evey major recording artist over the last 50 years has had early career demos or pre-fame for-hire experiments unearthed in glorified bootleg form. It's almost a rite of passage, the aural equivalent of an unauthorized celebrity biography, or finding your name atop billboards for a reissued B-movie you appeared in for seven minutes." If you look at it this way, the whole debacle actually gives Adam cred both as a long-term musician, and sympathy votes for being an artist fucked over by past collaborators. Honestly, at this point I'm hoping for more press, not less. This could be the best Gate ever, and it's actually about the music and artistry and ethics and all those things we care about! I realize this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not the hiding-behind-couches type... NoAngel, I was having just these same thoughts. This stuff happens to every ROCKSTAR! I have no doubt that Adam and his team will make the best of this mess created by the opportunistic Welsford. His real single will surely "explode" and BFM will be quickly forgotten. |
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Post by cookie on Oct 14, 2011 15:04:02 GMT -5
This might be the best thing forever-- Adam is now a color of yarn! I don't knit, but I'm seriously tempted to buy a skein!  ;D Adam Lambert
"What Do You Want From Me?"
an excitingly bizarre, pleasantly likeable charcoal, black and grasshopper Link: www.decadentfibers.com/yarn/decadent_colorways.htmI knit! (Badly!) Huh, maybe I could offer up a wooly hat knit from the Adam Lambert yarn as a future prize here or something? (*frantically tries to figure out how to get away with ordering "Adam Lambert" yarn, spending the several hours it takes to knit something like that, packing it up, and sending it off to a total stranger, without looking like a complete lunatic to her family and friends*) Here's how the yarn looks in a finished product, by the way:  www.decadentfibers.com/Knitting%20Subweb/spicy_curry_sweater.htmETA: changed pic so I didn't post a pic of some innocent girl on an adam lambert fan forum! I knit, and I want this yarn (and maybe a couple of other colorways as well) but I can't figure out how to order anything on this dang site- anyone else figure it out and want to help me out? |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Oct 14, 2011 15:04:07 GMT -5
[sneaks back in]
Ya know, I'm not changing my mind in the slightest about the dirty dealings surrounding these bastard albums, but just looking at this single press release as an independent entity, I'm secretly pleased at most of it.
The wording of this press release pumps Adam up with a LOT of cred.
Plus, it is completely explicit that these are early, pre-Idol recordings.
However, its the word "official" that's liberally used that I take serious offense to, and hope RCA squashes. Official according to whom? Can the word "official" be legally used here??
[whispers] Shhhhh...but I *do* like the rest of it!
ETA: I believe these Paramount sessions are separate from BFM, and is actually "Bastard Album #2b". If so, I think they are being promoted less sleezily than Bastard Album #2a (BFM). I don't know if this was the original intent or merely a reaction to the fan howls, but if so....they're learning.
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Post by SusieFierce on Oct 14, 2011 15:08:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know if that "review" is a site with any cred, or is it just some random guy's blog? Okay, I've been watching things unfold today. I feel like those who were hoping that this would not get a lot of mainstream attention might be wrong, and the barn has run out of the gate (or whatever that saying is.) Obviously there is a concerted effort by the rogue album people to promo these albums to the full extent they can. I've mentioned this before, and I believe it more than ever-- this whole mess might be spun into PR gold. Let it become a big old Gate, with lots of press and opportunities for Adam to speak his mind (and promo the shit out of his real music!) As the reviewer states, " Virtually evey major recording artist over the last 50 years has had early career demos or pre-fame for-hire experiments unearthed in glorified bootleg form. It's almost a rite of passage, the aural equivalent of an unauthorized celebrity biography, or finding your name atop billboards for a reissued B-movie you appeared in for seven minutes." If you look at it this way, the whole debacle actually gives Adam cred both as a long-term musician, and sympathy votes for being an artist fucked over by past collaborators. Honestly, at this point I'm hoping for more press, not less. This could be the best Gate ever, and it's actually about the music and artistry and ethics and all those things we care about! I realize this may not be a popular opinion, but I'm not the hiding-behind-couches type... Gotta say, ITA!! Haha! I was just have this same conversation with someone about 45 minutes ago. If this whole thing spurs Adam to maybe smidge up his single release promo a week or so, it would be a HUGE talking point. Controversy gets tongues-a-waggin' and Adam got many interview bookings after the AMAs that he might not have scored otherwise. Of course, I have no doubt that he would get his pick of promo opps these days, but this really can work out to be a huge advantage in one thing that I BELIEVE has plagued him possibly as bad if not worse than the gay BS, the fact that so many people have the misconception that he hasn't paid his dues. (This seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to most competition show people, but isn't nearly as rigid with women or younger kids.) Adam executive producing, working with A-list stars and now having this ~exploitative, blood-sucking producers trying to make a buck off you will allow Adam to address in his own words that it was past work, it is NOT endorsed by him and has nothing to do with his upcoming release. An advantage to controversy, for sure. ETA: That "review" is hilarious. Steve Cooke: the Dee Snider doppleganger to the left. Also: This explanation not satisfactory? Maybe Cooke's blindingly illiterate statement about Paramount and its resulting controversy will help clarify, unless you focus too hard on the moments when he refers to its release as "bitter sweat" and recalls hearing Lambert before "Simon Cowles" ever did. Then it will just be gibberish. Bwahahahahaha!!! |
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Post by NoAngel on Oct 14, 2011 15:09:59 GMT -5
Also, as I was just discussing with Susie, this whole issue would allow for some actual good questions during promo interviews, giving Adam the chance to talk about how long he's been making music, how hard he's worked trying to make it, etc. This would be huge in shedding some of the Idol stigma and the idea that he just dropped out of nowhere and hasn't put in the blood, sweat, and tears that "real musicians" have to put in.
Much, much better than stoopid questions about the five minutes he spent in Madonna's house, right????
OMG now I really want this to happen!
ETA: LOL, Susie and I practically said the same thing about the musician dues/Idol thing. Jinx!
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