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Post by bobo on Nov 1, 2011 10:11:23 GMT -5
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 1, 2011 10:16:13 GMT -5
lifeguard you said
"Let 100, even 50, other celebs have the guts to unfollow him and see how much power he wields."
THIS !!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 10:16:26 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replies about Perez. Sounds like people follow him for entertainment purposes. That's something I don't understand, but whatever. It doesn't sound like he has any real influence to make/break careers.  As for the crush on Adam ....  |
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Post by cassie on Nov 1, 2011 10:19:47 GMT -5
WARNING: This is me getting up on my soapbox about an issue I admit I may be overly sensitive about, so, feel free to scroll.
In grad school I did a research project on sexism in the English language. I was disturbed by how entrenched the negative characterization of females is. Describing Perez as a "whiny, bitchy little girl." We probably read it and smile. But, the phrase includes two slams to females. First, by saying Perez is a "girl" in a derogatory way. Why? Because he is effeminate, and that is undesirable? If the description had been "whiny, bitchy little boy" would it have been as strong an insult? Or would we read it and think, "That doesn't make sense. Little boys are not whiny and bitchy." Do you see my point?
Secondly, using the label "bitch." I know it is a word that is very commonly used, and even used in jest, but, it actually is derived from the word for a female dog in heat, and was meant to imply that the woman described was promiscuous. The meaning has evolved to now mean a woman who is catty, bossy, assertive, and a "ball-buster." To use it to describe a man is considered an even greater insult, as it is impugning his masculinity and no "real man" wants to be seen as a female--the lesser gender.
Yes, I can see you all rolling your eyes -- if you have read this far. But our words have power and sometimes subtle influence. The words we use can shape our opinions and perspectives. I most humbly suggest that we consider the words we choose, and make an effort to frame our insults without gender. Can we say Perez is a "whiny, back-biting scumbag" instead? I don't think that scum will object to the characterization.
Stepping off soapbox and hiding behind the couch.
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Post by Buderschnookie on Nov 1, 2011 10:25:08 GMT -5
Would you take similar offense to one of Adam's "Bitch, please" or "Dance, bitches"?
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Post by gelly14 on Nov 1, 2011 10:27:12 GMT -5
ileanneIMO the reason that he wanted to "change" was because at that time with so many suicides of young people and the "It gets better" campaing, people were so much against him because he was forcing them to come out. He "apologized" to Ellen about his behaviour saying also that he wants to help. He quickly discovered that you don't make enough money just for being good, so he became a bully again. I have to go now. Work is finnished. BBL 
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Post by wonderstruck on Nov 1, 2011 10:29:53 GMT -5
For you real show biz experts on this board, I have a question about Perez Hilton. I never heard of him, I don't think, before I got interested in Adam a couple of years ago (not that that means anything). Does he actually have any influence? He seems to think he is Tony Curtis in The Sweet Smell of Success. So do people actually listen to Perez, and if so, who? Or is he strictly a bottom-feeder? My opinion is that he has no real influence. He usually steals his "stories" from other gossip sites and then puts his own spin on them. I'd say he's a bottom feeder with a lot of followers, most of whom are there strictly to be nasty. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 1, 2011 10:36:07 GMT -5
Would you take similar offense to one of Adam's "Bitch, please" or "Dance, bitches"? Good question. I think that using "bitch" as an insult bothers me more than using it as a verb meaning "complain", or using it in a fierce, positive manner as Adam does. Also, I recognize that when I hear the term used in gay culture, it is often used with affection and a sense of camaraderie. I would prefer that we expunge that word from our vocabularies just on principle, but I know that is not gonna happen. I thought I would just throw out the idea of sexism in language to get some folks thinking, on a slow news day. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 10:37:23 GMT -5
I tell my husband to stop bitching, so for me, it does not have an only female conotation (yes, I know that technically bitch is a female dog.) "Bitching" for me, is anyone who is unduly complaining and complaining about something. I think it's original meaning has gone well beyond, females. Many words have evolved, probably even since you were in grad schjool, cassie. Like, Sick = not feeling well & being "ridiculous" used to be a bad thing  Stand up and dance bitches, would be the utmost of compliments! And in that instance, when Adam used it in LA, it was used for male and females. Also, I would hate to see members' innocent speech habits or colloquialisms, being dissected here. |
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Post by ileanne on Nov 1, 2011 10:40:53 GMT -5
ileanneIMO the reason that he wanted to "change" was because at that time with so many suicides of young people and the "It gets better" campaing, people were so much against him because he was forcing them to come out. He "apologized" to Ellen about his behaviour saying also that he wants to help. He quickly discovered that you don't make enough money just for being good, so he became a bully again. I have to go now. Work is finnished. BBL Oh yes, this too. Definitely the money involved in his returning to bully. I just wish more people would see this and stop giving him hits, but then the National Enquirer made tons of money too. I don't know if they still do. Time for me to return to work :( |
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