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Post by lifeguard on Nov 8, 2011 14:07:40 GMT -5
I love, love Queen and I love Freddie Mercury. I only got to see them in concert once back in the 80s and they were fabulous. This is just a question I’m curious about and maybe Cassie can help. Evaluating Freddie as a singer, as you did Adam, not a performer, but a singer, how do they compare? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBUJztI884MThis may not be the best video since it’s such a huge venue, but when I listened to it, I compare it to Adam’s vocals and have to give Ådam the nod. Please don’t jump on me, guys, it’s not like I think there is a competition, I’d just like to know. If you don’t want to answer Cassie, that’s fine, too. First, let me say that in many ways, the answer to your question comes down to personal preference. And experience. If you grew up listening to Queen and Freddy, you probably have a visceral reaction to hearing him sing. You associate it with many fond memories and situations. Anyone else singing Queen doesn't sound like him..... and that is the sound your brain craves. Also, if you grew up listening to raw, untrained voices, that sound may be the most pleasing to you, and a trained, "legitimate" voice may sound phony or overwrought. Unnatural. Having said that, from a vocal production point of view, Adam outsings Freddy. (Don't throw rotten tomatoes or infect my computer with a virus for typing that.) Adam has a richer, fuller sound in his higher register. He has more deep resonance. Freddy has a sharper, more narrow, more pinging sound. What I noticed most prominently with the clip you linked to of Freddy is his breathing. He ... oh, sh!t, how to say this without aggravating people..... he doesn't have good breath support. He chops off the ending notes on many phrases instead of holding them. He takes breaths in the middle of phrases, sometimes after only singing a couple of notes. He sounds like he is really pushing the notes out with blasts of air, leaving him nothing in reserve to sustain the entire phrase. Freddy also dodged the highest notes of the melody in several places. Listen, then, to Adam sing the same song and phrases. He holds out those ending notes. He sings an entire phrase. He goes for the high notes, and then adds a few for good measure. He is able to do all that because he has superb control of his breathing. He also knows how to focus the tones of the high notes so that he can sing them without pushing out a blast of air. Overall, Adam's control of his voice is superior. It allows him to hit the pitches more consistently, and make the tone and sound of his voice more consistent thruout a phrase or thruout his range. But, if you LIKE Freddy's voice better, that is all that matters. I was hoping you would answer cc’s question because I was curious too. Let me say I am a huge Queen fan and have been for years. I love to hear Freddie sing and love even more to watch him perform whether performance videos or in the music videos. B-b-but since Adam, no matter who I listen to I hear exactly what you are saying, the tone and depth of the notes and the unfinished sound of them is startling. That doesn’t mean I don’t like these artists just that I never realized before what a note could be. |
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Post by hoopla1 on Nov 8, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -5
That doesn’t mean I don’t like these artists just that I never realized before what a note could be. Keeper line. "Like angels on iceskates." ETA: and this is a cute tweet! @insomniac19
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 14:13:12 GMT -5
If you go to sub.rollingstone.com/allaccess/subscribe you can subscribe to the next 4 issues of Rolling Stone for 99¢ and you get online access to their archives ... including Adam's June 25, 2009 issue ... Peeps in the RS subscription department will soon be noticing the spike in sales and wondering what caused it ...  Thanks, JustKaren, for the RS link. I never got a copy of the edition with Adam's 2009 cover story, and I've kinda regretted it. So, I'm gonna dive in this time and subscribe. Easier than stalking B&N when the issue comes out. |
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Post by satisfied on Nov 8, 2011 14:14:26 GMT -5
So AFL recently said he'd done 2 interviews - we got the Advocate, RS is the second? No, The Advocate timeline is not right. He said phone interviews. I think RS would have been in person. And OUT was in person. IMO, we still don't know what the phone interviews were for. You're right - he did say phone interviews. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Post by wal on Nov 8, 2011 14:16:03 GMT -5
www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2011-11-08/the-highs-and-lows-of-adam-lambert-performing-with-queen-and-being-stung-with-a-law-suit/?xrs=share_twitterNovember 8th, 2011 | 12:45 pm The Highs And Lows Of Adam Lambert: Performing With Queen And Being Stung With A Law Suitby Kat George At this weekend’s MTV Europe Music Awards, Adam Lambert wow-ed fans as he performed live on stage with legendary rock band Queen. In a noisy, epic performance, Lambert belted out numbers like a pro, owning the material in a way that made him seem much more than your run-of-the-mill Freddie Mercury impersonator. Sporting his trademark vertiginous hair and a Matrix-style leather coat, Lambert fronted the legendary band with contemporary style, hitting big notes with soaring force. We feel it’s safe to say that this is probably another high point in Lambert’s career and definitely a favorite moment for his fans, but do Queen’s die hard contingent of supporters feel the same way? Despite his ripping performance at the EMAs, unfortunately, it’s not all coming up daisies for the ex-Idol contestant as this week; he’s been stung with a pretty hefty lawsuit. The star has been shot with a subpoena by a company called Colwel Platinum Entertainment who claim they had an agreement with Lambert at the time of his appearance on American Idol, and that his appearance on the show was in direct violation of said agreement. We’ll see how this one pans out, but if we know Glambert, he’s not going to let a little thing like a lawsuit stand in the way of getting his (currently delayed) first single completed! more...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 14:17:14 GMT -5
So AFL recently said he'd done 2 interviews - we got the Advocate, RS is the second? No, The Advocate timeline is not right. He said phone interviews. I think RS would have been in person. And OUT was in person. IMO, we still don't know what the phone interviews were for. And the lead time for magazine articles is longer -- I think the phone interviews were too recent to make the deadlines for those publications. I agree that the phone interviews are still a mystery. Maybe more overseas press? (Australia/NZ or Asia?) |
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Post by PostFestumPF on Nov 8, 2011 14:17:29 GMT -5
Okay, one last thought before I push away from the keyboard........ I loved Adam's performance from the EMA's. The fan vids that are coming out seem to really showcase the atmosphere in the arena and the SOUND, OMG what I wouldn't give to have been in that audience. I am so thrilled that Adam got to front for them. It was a GREAT moment. Now, it's been done. I hope the stall in the release isn't TPTB shifting their views on what they want Adam "to be" based on his Queen performance. I think what is so absolutely unique about Adam is that, yes, he can do Queen as well as anything else he chooses. He has that confidence, training and energy. Queen has been done before and we are surrounded by pop. It sounds like he is attempting to find something different and new that will be electrifying. I hope he finds it and we are all thrilled. Adam is about new and now -- not Queen. JMO. No, I do not believe the delay has got nothing to do with the EMA/Queen performance. IMHO, Adam would not want to go down that lane; if he did he would've already done that with FYE. Adam will have his own path and create his own style, something fresh. With the vast array of producers & writers at his disposal we can only expect the unexpected. |
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Post by murly on Nov 8, 2011 14:18:01 GMT -5
First, let me say that in many ways, the answer to your question comes down to personal preference. And experience. If you grew up listening to Queen and Freddy, you probably have a visceral reaction to hearing him sing. You associate it with many fond memories and situations. Anyone else singing Queen doesn't sound like him..... and that is the sound your brain craves. Also, if you grew up listening to raw, untrained voices, that sound may be the most pleasing to you, and a trained, "legitimate" voice may sound phony or overwrought. Unnatural. Having said that, from a vocal production point of view, Adam outsings Freddy. (Don't throw rotten tomatoes or infect my computer with a virus for typing that.) Adam has a richer, fuller sound in his higher register. He has more deep resonance. Freddy has a sharper, more narrow, more pinging sound. What I noticed most prominently with the clip you linked to of Freddy is his breathing. He ... oh, sh!t, how to say this without aggravating people..... he doesn't have good breath support. He chops off the ending notes on many phrases instead of holding them. He takes breaths in the middle of phrases, sometimes after only singing a couple of notes. He sounds like he is really pushing the notes out with blasts of air, leaving him nothing in reserve to sustain the entire phrase. Freddy also dodged the highest notes of the melody in several places. Listen, then, to Adam sing the same song and phrases. He holds out those ending notes. He sings an entire phrase. He goes for the high notes, and then adds a few for good measure. He is able to do all that because he has superb control of his breathing. He also knows how to focus the tones of the high notes so that he can sing them without pushing out a blast of air. Overall, Adam's control of his voice is superior. It allows him to hit the pitches more consistently, and make the tone and sound of his voice more consistent thruout a phrase or thruout his range. But, if you LIKE Freddy's voice better, that is all that matters. I was hoping you would answer cc’s question because I was curious too. Let me say I am a huge Queen fan and have been for years. I love to hear Freddie sing and love even more to watch him perform whether performance videos or in the music videos. B-b-but since Adam, no matter who I listen to I hear exactly what you are saying, the tone and depth of the notes and the unfinished sound of them is startling. That doesn’t mean I don’t like these artists just that I never realized before what a note could be. I know exactly what you mean. Adam has ruined every other singer for me. People who used to sound really good to me don't sound as good anymore. I can still enjoy their work, but I'm so much pickier than I used to be. |
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Post by wal on Nov 8, 2011 14:19:06 GMT -5
Majorsandminors Majors & Minors This week @adamlambert mentors the @hubtvnetwork/majors-and-minors-cast on stage presence. Check out a new photo: on.fb.me/udRKEm1 minute ago |
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Post by maria222pf on Nov 8, 2011 14:21:19 GMT -5
I am surprised that a delay in his album is a big concern for anyone. In the book writing world, you can take years - if the quality of the book is good enough, among other things, it will make a splash. I dont get the sense that all top level artists crank out albums very quickly. Take Gaga: 2 year gap between fame monster and born this way Madonna: 2 or 3 year gap between all albums except with first two There are plenty of other examples! Think about the creative inspiration it takes to create stuff. Its not a practical thing that has a well structured plan ahead of time and follows precise deadlines for every brick laid. Its not something that can be churned out by rote (unless you want it to SOUND like that). Artists chisel and chisel away and throw stuff out and start from scratch again until satisfaction is reached. I know Adam and his company will be concerned that an energised fanbase will start to fade away if the album doesnt come out soon. I know i never would - there's too much that man has going for him. And even if some parts of the fanbase start fading, a great album will revive interest. It really isnt about how long it takes (dont take that too the extreme I mean within a reasonable timespan) but how good its quality is. To be honest, it bugs me when I hear fans getting upset when there's a delay in the process. It has only been ONE YEAR since he finished his tour. You try writing a bloody good album in that time. I thought FYE was very good for what went into it (very little time! and lots of marketing imperatives). Now he wants to be more honest and creative. It takes time. Delays are natural and inevtiable with artistic work. I know fans are hungry for stuff from him, but it starts to get... demanding. even commodified - like ordering Van Gogh paintings by the meter. I dont think thats a great energy for any artist we love to have to experience. Not someone who gives 110 per cent every time he performs and seems to spread so much love and regard for others! Surely we can give him space to go deep and wide and produce something bloody brilliant? What deadlines are pressuring us so that we feel we have to push him so? Anjalee, beautifully put, thank you |
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