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Post by lurleene on Jun 28, 2021 17:59:43 GMT -5
I wish they had include Adam's #1 album. But I'll take it as he is in good company with Aretha, Prince, Freddie Mercury, Ray Charles, Ricky Martin, etc. 25 Musicians Who Broke BarriersAdam LambertIn 2009, American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert opened up about being “bi-curious” and gay. Lambert helped usher in a new era of gay acceptance simply because he was on a mainstream television show. At the time, only 37% of Americans supported same-sex marriage. www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/25-musicians-who-broke-barriers/ss-BB1d91hw?li=BBnb2gh#image=8 That's BS and diminishes everything he did, both on the show and off it, to benefit the LGBTQ community. The season before Adam's, there were two gay contestants in the voting rounds - one of whom was very obviously gay, even if he didn't say anything to that effect - and neither of them ushered in anything because they didn't capture the attention of the audience and the media. Adam did, in spades, and followed it up by walking the walk and talking the talk in his post-Idol career, sometimes to his detriment. I probably shouldn't Post While Cranky, but geez.LOL!!!! I agree 100%. I was thrilled to see Adam included but there was so much more to him. There were gay contestants on the show before and after him but none captured the attention of the public or media the way that Adam did. And it wasn't all about his sexuality. But he sure helped to make many more accepting of the LGBT community because of who he was and the fact that he did not hide. He stood proudly before and after the show and he was pretty much on his own. I remember when the lead singer from Judas Priest said thank gawd for Adam Lambert. He saw Adam doing what he was unable to do early in his career. I think that Adam does not always get the deserved credit because many (gay and straight) want to forget how he was treated and the part they played in that treatment. |
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Post by pi on Jun 28, 2021 19:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by 3ku1 on Jun 28, 2021 19:17:33 GMT -5
I'm very glad he was included. However, he didn't impact gay acceptance "simply because he was on a mainstream television show." That's BS and diminishes everything he did, both on the show and off it, to benefit the LGBTQ community. The season before Adam's, there were two gay contestants in the voting rounds - one of whom was very obviously gay, even if he didn't say anything to that effect - and neither of them ushered in anything because they didn't capture the attention of the audience and the media. Adam did, in spades, and followed it up by walking the walk and talking the talk in his post-Idol career, sometimes to his detriment. I probably shouldn't Post While Cranky, but geez. LOL!!!! I agree 100%. I was thrilled to see Adam included but there was so much more to him. There were gay contestants on the show before and after him but none captured the attention of the public or media the way that Adam did. And it wasn't all about his sexuality. But he sure helped to make many more accepting of the LGBT community because of who he was and the fact that he did not hide. He stood proudly before and after the show and he was pretty much on his own. I remember when the lead singer from Judas Priest said thank gawd for Adam Lambert. He saw Adam doing what he was unable to do early in his career. I think that Adam does not always get the deserved credit because many (gay and straight) want to forget how he was treated and the part they played in that treatment. Their had been LGBT artists on idol and within the industry before. But none like Adam. He literally kicked the door down with unbridled, and utter self confidence in who he is. As a straight male. I could figure he was gay. I mean you couldn’t tell? Lol. I didn’t care. And couldn’t coming from NZ which is comparatively more liberal you could argue on this issue. Why it mattered. But alas. The reason why Mainstream America is more open minded about what’s his name Li? Is the impact Adam made. Kinda like Freddie. Unashamedly himself. He walked through fire. So LGBT artists today could fly. |
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Post by girldrummer on Jun 28, 2021 21:34:04 GMT -5
And not only did Adam SAY he was gay after Idol. He was also willing to talk about his sexuality and answer questions about it for a long time afterwards. He said, "It's all anybody wanted to talk about." It was a novelty for a gay guy to actually discuss it in interviews. I don't recall any other gay singer before him being so blatantly asked about his sexuality as Adam was. His natural geniality and likability seemed to give interviewers a kind of "permission" to ask him about it. I know Freddie was asked about it, too, but he just answered in a coy, joking way. Adam actually addressed it as a real topic that he wasn't afraid to discuss. Up till then, a performer who was thought of as gay wasn't asked about it openly.
Adam has managed to educate a hell of a lot of people around the world with his openness. He has been easy-going and honest about it all from the get-go. He's made more of an impact on gay rights and awareness that anybody realizes, IMO.
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Post by svca on Jun 28, 2021 21:41:32 GMT -5
And not only did Adam SAY he was gay after Idol. He was also willing to talk about his sexuality and answer questions about it for a long time afterwards. He said, "It's all anybody wanted to talk about." It was a novelty for a gay guy to actually discuss it in interviews. I don't recall any other gay singer before him being so blatantly asked about his sexuality as Adam was. His natural geniality and likability seemed to give interviewers a kind of "permission" to ask him about it. I know Freddie was asked about it, too, but he just answered in a coy, joking way. Adam actually addressed it as a real topic that he wasn't afraid to discuss. Up till then, a performer who was thought of as gay wasn't asked about it openly. Adam has managed to educate a hell of a lot of people around the world with his openness. He has been easy-going and honest about it all from the get-go. He's made more of an impact on gay rights and awareness that anybody realizes, IMO. They asked Clay about it constantly, and he was in the closet. He was on meds for a while because he was so stressed from the pressure of interviewers trying to out him. So it wasn't just Adam. Plus Perez Hilton was still on the warpath in those days, and it was his mission to out any gays in the closet...Clay was a constant target for him. ETA: Since we were talking earlier about the huge difference in 2009 to 2021, there was also a huge difference in 2003 to 2009. Clay lost a LOT of fans when he came out. |
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Post by nica575 on Jun 28, 2021 22:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jun 28, 2021 22:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Jun 28, 2021 22:26:28 GMT -5
And not only did Adam SAY he was gay after Idol. He was also willing to talk about his sexuality and answer questions about it for a long time afterwards. He said, "It's all anybody wanted to talk about." It was a novelty for a gay guy to actually discuss it in interviews. I don't recall any other gay singer before him being so blatantly asked about his sexuality as Adam was. His natural geniality and likability seemed to give interviewers a kind of "permission" to ask him about it. I know Freddie was asked about it, too, but he just answered in a coy, joking way. Adam actually addressed it as a real topic that he wasn't afraid to discuss. Up till then, a performer who was thought of as gay wasn't asked about it openly. Adam has managed to educate a hell of a lot of people around the world with his openness. He has been easy-going and honest about it all from the get-go. He's made more of an impact on gay rights and awareness that anybody realizes, IMO. To great stress, Ricky Martin was constantly asked when he was still in the closet. What made Adam different was he had been out since about 18 so he was never in the closet when he came to everyone's attention on Idol. Some couldn't stop talking about his sexuality but he hid nothing and never had to dodge. And after Idol, when he was free to discuss anything and give interviews, he answered openly. And they asked and asked and asked and asked him to explain again and again. One would have thought they didn't know what it meant to be gay but we know they did, lol. His openness helped make the path easier for many others but it also painted him constantly as the other and that hurt him somewhat with his career, imo. By the time SS and Frank came along, they asked but the media and their fans just moved on to make their music more the main focus over their orientation. And their many Grammy's followed. |
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Post by pi on Jun 28, 2021 22:43:37 GMT -5
PAPER Polaroids From Madonna and Susanne Bartsch's NYC Pride Parties
Adam mention.. Once inside on the 18th floor at the Boom Boom Room, guests were treated to sounds by Kaytranada, Honey Dijon, The Misshapes and disco/house legend Eli Escobar while rubbing elbows with names like Adam Lambert, Anderson Cooper, Andy Cohen, Bowen Yang, Emily Ratajkowski, Evan Mock, Lance Bass, Symone, Telfar Clemens and Zachary Quinto. Relive that epic night in some exclusive polaroids, below, as well as shots from all over NYC during Pride weekend, from Pride On Top with with Susanne Bartsch and New York, New York with Amanda Lepore.  www.papermag.com/pride-party-polaroids-2021-2653575697.html?rebelltitem=28#rebelltitem28
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Post by pi on Jun 28, 2021 23:23:14 GMT -5
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