12.23.11 The Helsinki Incident, American Male Pop

Thanks! Stardust, Bridget and NoAngel -- and all for the great posts.

Very interesting divide between the female and the male perspective. So Adam's tweet got hammered and made an example of possible domestic violence between a domestic partnership there wasn't any homophobia in evidence. So next time an internationally famous gay couple gets in a fight they'll know their words afterward will be held in equal light. They could have come up with lots of situations however where some physical interaction would be expected and a lot of those could taking the car keys away, snatching away the last drink, throwing them over your shoulder and out the door when they start dancing nude on the table top......

Now on to Perez, and this is something that TMZ didn't understand either. Adam has already apologized to his fans. It's what his very first tweet was about. Adam lives in a bubble. Yes, he's got to be aware of lots of things any more but I think he still tries to see things as if he's just Adam (with a lot of virtual friends) and not as a global superstar (with a microscope trained on him).

So what do Adam and Sauli first think of when they get out of jail and find out they made the news?

"OMG the fandom/glamily is going to think we have broken up! Quick tell them everything is ok, we've made up, we were stupid silly but we are ok."

See, all in the bubble, then they go " sh!t and damnation, we were not either trying to cover our asses and make it all look better to the international media (like tmz said). We were just talking to the glamily, OMG I hate public relations."

I’ve been hesitant to post anything further about yesterday’s incident beyond my initial reaction at the beginning of yesterday’s thread. My initial reaction was that I felt terrible for Adam, and that hasn’t changed -- in spite of apparent happy endings and attempts at light-heartedness on the part of Adam and others. Just to be clear, this is not a ‘concern’ post. I think Adam’s career will still take off into the stratosphere, and I’m not judging his relationship – it seems clear that both he and Sauli see this as a very important long-term relationship and I would expect that they would both work at resolving whatever issues they have (and it also seems clear to me that there are some) beyond the obvious jet-lag-and-alcohol circumstances. Their relationship is romanticized in the fandom to an excessive degree, imo -- NOTHING is that perfect, and imo it does them a disservice. But I have to say, for me as a fan, this incident has really put a damper on the euphoria I was feeling at the beginning of the week.

It didn’t help that at work on Thursday, I could see that the headline “Adam Lambert in Jail” and Adam’s picture were all over the main news websites – Google, Yahoo, Msn. I’ve never seen that happen before. It really is upsetting that the EMAs were barely mentioned in the U.S. news, and yet this story is everywhere. The upside, I suppose, is that it does provide evidence that Adam is a big star already. But yes, very annoying that the sensational/prurient makes news over the accomplishments. It particularly irks me because I know that the people in my life who don’t ‘get’ Adam, will ‘get’ him even less with this kind of publicity. And that includes the men.

I don’t mean to sound like such a downer, and I really don’t feel like this ruins things for Adam or anything like that. But I’m just saying that it feels sad to me. I have other thoughts and feelings about this, including personal and related experiences, but I don’t want to put my foot in my mouth, which I’m likely to do if I keep going. So I will just say that I really appreciate your post, Bridget. Also – NoAngel and Q3. And Skylar. Wonderful. Thanks for the very honest comments. Really, really, really appreciate them. And agree with a lot of what was said in your posts. I think the serious discussion is a very good thing. #VERYslowprocessor

Skylar,

Digging into some distant memory I think seeing somewhere that one of Sauli's sisters - his twin? revealed him to their parents, I don't know at what age but he must have been at teens - under 20. Sauli's said his dad is his idol and dad's said he loves his son very much. He's always been there for him and very supportive. His parents are divorced.

He was open about being gay at the BB-house. There was speculation about him going on before he told it to his housemates, there is a YT of that discussion.