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Post by marie23 on Jan 20, 2012 21:10:09 GMT -5
Susie--About Adam's new look. I think it's TOTALLY a great strategy. Not only does it fit in with his theme of wanting to gain broader acceptance and be taken srsly as a musician--not just the OTT gay kid from Idol--but it's a common thing in pop music to reinvent your look continually. I gotta say, while I always like the eyeliner, I am SO GLAD whatever makeup he is wearing nowadays is more subtle. That heavy caked on shit just highlighted any skin imperfections--gotta say now his skin is looking next to flawless!!--and aged him a good 5 to 10 yrs imo. I dunno if it was the way it was applied or just because a guy wearing full on face makeup can be tricky, but I love the *softer* look. Also loving the softer hair. He just looks good and more accessible which will def help him gain more fans, casual and whatnot. Plus, sad as it is for me to say lol, his look now won't intimidate the straight dudes. LOL Yeah, I reluctantly have to agree with this. Even though I loved his eye makeup, whether it was just eyeliner, or if he went subtle, or full on crazy with it, I wasn't too fund of the caked on foundation. I think that really did him like no favors. But it does give me a pang in the heart though that this look is more accessible to casual or non-fans. Especially when a friend, who, while thinks that he can sing, but just really don't care for his look. I showed her a picture of the Leno outfit, and she said that he was more attractive in that, then the one he posted on his facebook/BTIKM single cover. It took me a minute before I realized that it was just the absence of notable eyeliner that made her say that. I want him to have mainstream success, I just don't want fans to come on board because of his toned down look, then go and depart when or if he comes out and do something totally outrageous, at least OTT to them anyway. :/ |
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Post by needacoke on Jan 20, 2012 21:14:42 GMT -5
Older fans - I bought my 38 year old daughter a 2nd row seat at the GNT Atlanta Symphony Hall. She looked around before the concert, laughed and said "I'm too young to be here". I looked around and had to agree with her. I KNEW there were a lot of younger people there - I had seen them in the lobby before the concert. Unfortunately, the younger ones, for the most part, can't afford the up close seats that are sold on Stubhub. Oh well.
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Post by marie23 on Jan 20, 2012 21:14:59 GMT -5
Adam is just..I don't know. I don't follow, or haven't follow many if any artists before Adam. But he just really seems to love his fans so much. It is really more than just loving his fans. Many artists love their fans but few seem to have the genuine APPRECIATION that Adam has for his fans. Good lord he even called us "ladies of a certain age" his surrogate mothers! He truly appreciates the passion and love that we feel for him and the protectiveness. He has a sincere appreciation for the powerful weapon that we can be when focused in the right direction and he has shaped and molded us into an incredible asset to his career. He has also returned our loyalty and devotion with his own loyalty to us and he has forced the media to recognize our strength. He has truly made us partners in his success. He really has changed the way media perceives a passionate fan base. This, totally this. I just want to hug and save this post, and read it over and over again. This is what I feel when reading or listening to him talk. You just really feel the love and appreciation in his voice. It's just so genuine. Gah, maybe I just need some sleep, but I just feel so overwhelmed, from all of the news from the past few days. |
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Post by koshka on Jan 20, 2012 21:17:09 GMT -5
Let me preface this with saying that I haven't listened to any of the radio stuff yet except for Maxwell. But regarding Ryan Seacrest...I've always thought he's damn good at his job. All the billion jobs he does. I hold no animus towards him. Adam DOES have granny fans. He has lots of others, but it's still considered huh? to like a singer if they're male and gay. And if you're a straight girl, then people ask the weirdest question, meaning why would you like a singer if they're gay, meaning there's suddenly nothing attractive about him. Even though, objectively, he may be an "object" of beauty. Gay men are desexualized in order to be palatable, and then add older women - forget it. Older women are supposed to be beyond that, just be moms and grandmoms, and not consider a pop star or actor attractive, or go to concerts, or listen to Top 40. So you could say Ryan's comments are 1) anti-gay and 2) anti-women and 3) anti-age and get mad, or just shrug it off and not take it personally. Sorry to bring it up again, I can never post during the day and by the time I get on, I'm way behind. I guess the thing that bugged me is that he is a hypocrite. By that I mean he is getting a little long in the tooth himself. He is in his late 30's and hardly a young, club hopping 20 year old, so I don't know where he gets off snarking at anyone. Is he prepared to give up his job when he hits 40? Lord knows he won't be 'cool' any more. I think the dude is a bit of a tool... and I'm not just referring to Adam. This stuff doesn't usually bug me, especially if it is said by someone much younger... but hypocrites just gnaw at me!! THis is why I need to leave the TV off at night. When I watch the news cover politicians and those on a "family platform", then I see their actions and it makes me go through the roof. Then I actually start looking like my avatar. LOL |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Jan 20, 2012 21:17:38 GMT -5
Let me preface this with saying that I haven't listened to any of the radio stuff yet except for Maxwell. But regarding Ryan Seacrest...I've always thought he's damn good at his job. All the billion jobs he does. I hold no animus towards him. Adam DOES have granny fans. He has lots of others, but it's still considered huh? to like a singer if they're male and gay. And if you're a straight girl, then people ask the weirdest question, meaning why would you like a singer if they're gay, meaning there's suddenly nothing attractive about him. Even though, objectively, he may be an "object" of beauty. Gay men are desexualized in order to be palatable, and then add older women - forget it. Older women are supposed to be beyond that, just be moms and grandmoms, and not consider a pop star or actor attractive, or go to concerts, or listen to Top 40. So you could say Ryan's comments are 1) anti-gay and 2) anti-women and 3) anti-age and get mad, or just shrug it off and not take it personally. Sorry to bring it up again, I can never post during the day and by the time I get on, I'm way behind. Yeah I kinda agree with you here. Nothing Ryan said was technically untrue--he just kinda twisted the truth to fit his demeaning and ageist joke, even if those drunk ladies need to reign it in a bit. Oy. I think it's more of a reflection of the messed up values of society in general than anything else. Gay people should be HAY GURL HAY stereotypes that make over your house but not actually have sex and people--women especially--over a certain age should wither away and die to make room for the hot youngins. I don't think Ryan was trying to actively sabotage him at all, I just think he was trying to be funny and just went about it in the worst way possible. Without any class. Cheap humor with little thought. But I don't think he is a bad guy or should be vilified. He prolly has his onw~issues to deal with anyways. LOL. I have to say tho, as a fan who is basically only a few months older than Adam, I kinda resent the meme that he only has older fans. EDIT: Also have to say that it's not the older fans per se that are embarrassing to potential new fans, but it's the same group who are at every show who have money to burn and are aggressive and obnoxious and stalkerish. There's a part of me that HOPES AGAINST HOPE that they HATE this new album and GTFO to make way for actual saner fans. |
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Post by seoulmate on Jan 20, 2012 21:18:26 GMT -5
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Post by koshka on Jan 20, 2012 21:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by marie23 on Jan 20, 2012 21:21:13 GMT -5
Let me preface this with saying that I haven't listened to any of the radio stuff yet except for Maxwell. But regarding Ryan Seacrest...I've always thought he's damn good at his job. All the billion jobs he does. I hold no animus towards him. Adam DOES have granny fans. He has lots of others, but it's still considered huh? to like a singer if they're male and gay. And if you're a straight girl, then people ask the weirdest question, meaning why would you like a singer if they're gay, meaning there's suddenly nothing attractive about him. Even though, objectively, he may be an "object" of beauty. Gay men are desexualized in order to be palatable, and then add older women - forget it. Older women are supposed to be beyond that, just be moms and grandmoms, and not consider a pop star or actor attractive, or go to concerts, or listen to Top 40. So you could say Ryan's comments are 1) anti-gay and 2) anti-women and 3) anti-age and get mad, or just shrug it off and not take it personally. Sorry to bring it up again, I can never post during the day and by the time I get on, I'm way behind. Yeah I kinda agree with you here. Nothing Ryan said was technically untrue--he just kinda twisted the truth to fit his demeaning and ageist joke, even if those drunk ladies need to reign it in a bit. Oy. I think it's more of a reflection of the messed up values of society in general than anything else. Gay people should be HAY GURL HAY stereotypes that make over your house but not actually have sex and people--women especially--over a certain age should wither away and die to make room for the hot youngins. I don't think Ryan was trying to actively sabotage him at all, I just think he was trying to be funny and just went about it in the worst way possible. Without any class. Cheap humor with little thought. But I don't think he is a bad guy or should be vilified. He prolly has his onw~issues to deal with anyways. LOL. I have to say tho, as a fan who is basically only a few months older than Adam, I kinda resent the meme that he only has older fans. As a fan who is still younger than Adam, I resent this meme too. Or the meme that it's not cool to like Adam if you're under a certain again. :/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 21:21:46 GMT -5
What happened on Take Over hour today? Did it go by the wayside? I don't see ay posts about it. BTIKM was played on Q102 and Maxwell played the OOFTA interview again and made a comment that he got an interview before Ryan did!  Loving Maxwell!!! Thanks, guys for the replies about Takeover Hour! I still feel bad that I badger you all about it but it's on at a time that I can't even do it! So glad Maxwell got an interview before Ryan! Q102 deserved that! And as someone upthread mentioned, if Ryan had actually done a decent interview, he might have gotten that juicy tidbit about Adam doing more with Queen this year. To me, that is news worthy! Glad the SF stations got so much love today! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 21:23:41 GMT -5
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Loving Maxwell!!! 
