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Post by aralid on Jan 21, 2012 15:40:06 GMT -5
I still do the 2 spaces between sentences just because my fingers just DO it as I type. Then, if I am on twitter, I have to go back and take them out in order to fit into the 140 characters  aralid - I'm not sure if it is always used the same way, I tend to use it when I want to "say" a word in a sarcastic tone. I put it in front of the word that I would emphasize if I was making a sarcastic statement. Thank you ETA: SusieFierce - thank you, too |
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Post by gelly14 on Jan 21, 2012 15:40:50 GMT -5
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Adam Lambert coming up on The Tonight Show at 8.45 pm on channel 613 for Virgin Media customers in the UK! Adams performance around 9.20-ish
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Post by lynne on Jan 21, 2012 15:41:58 GMT -5
Uhm, wait, I thought you weren't supposed to put a comma before the and in a series? My French speaking Grandmother who taught High School English always despaired of my English grammar errors. You aren't anymore, but people used to do that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 15:47:43 GMT -5
I agree with Susie that Adam would have still had a second album, but the label might not have spent the kind of money on it that they have on Trespassing. So he would have had AN album, but not THIS album. Another way of looking at it is that he wouldn't have had the sales of FYE if it wasn't for all of the fans buying it. (That includes pretty much anyone who bought it unless there were some impulse buyers who bought an album from someone they didn't know.) So all of the fans buying FYE (and tour tickets, and EP/remixes, and so on!) ensured he could make another album. Just wanted to agree with whoever said up-thread that they seem to use a lot of hyphens, ellipses, etc when writing on line. I also do this. I am perfectly capable of writing correct English (except for spelling - that is a lost cause) but when I am writing on line I am trying to be far more conversational than I am in formal writing and those dots and dashes seem to add the pauses or emphasis I am trying to express. I also use the tilde (~) WAY more - actually I can't remember EVER using a tilde in formal writing. Does it even have a purpose? I also use ALL CAPS to try and add the cadence of spoken words to writing on line. Does anyone remember indenting 5 spaces for new paragraphs or leaving 2 spaces between sentences? YES! On an IBM Selectric... |
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Post by rihannsu on Jan 21, 2012 15:51:34 GMT -5
Uhm, wait, I thought you weren't supposed to put a comma before the and in a series? My French speaking Grandmother who taught High School English always despaired of my English grammar errors. You aren't anymore, but people used to do that. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it gets confusing living through changes in convention. LOL My Grandmother used to say "Ain't ain't in the dictionary!" until of course, it was. HA HA |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 15:52:44 GMT -5
Does anyone remember indenting 5 spaces for new paragraphs or leaving 2 spaces between sentences? LOL, as an editor who works both with print and online, we have different styles for both. We do indent five spaces in print for every paragraph other than the first. We single-space between paragraphs. That looks great in print and is very economical, space-wise, but is very hard to read online. For web stories, we double-space between paragraphs and do not indent. I'm totally with you, pjd, I write online the way I would likely say things in conversation, so much license is taken with standard grammar, but I find it rather liberating since I have to obsess over it at work all the time. As far as I know, the use of the tilde came from Twitter. (Or that's the first time I've notice it used outside of Spanish.) I use it like an alternative to quotation marks (it saves characters in tweets) or to denote italics – basically to convey emphasis or a sarcastic slant to the word. ETA: Oh, also in print and online publishing, two spaces after a period or a colon have been long gone. Again, it's a matter of space efficiency. Now when I see two spaces, it looks so strange to me. And, it seems that when you try and use the two spaces you get the green squiggly line.... Would you mind showing me an example of how you're using the tilde on twitter -- I've seen it and don't completely understand -- sounds useful though. |
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Post by maria1 on Jan 21, 2012 15:53:08 GMT -5
OT but I had to stop by to brag a little to the other Finns on the board. I'm just about to fly to LA to see Nightwish tonight! Nightwish is a great Finnish band that rarely plays here. I'm going to keep my eyes open for a tall dark haired guy and a shorter blond... People have told Sauli about this concert in his blog comments and he reads them. So a girl can hope... |
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Post by crispy on Jan 21, 2012 15:55:09 GMT -5
Uhm, wait, I thought you weren't supposed to put a comma before the and in a series? My French speaking Grandmother who taught High School English always despaired of my English grammar errors. You aren't anymore, but people used to do that. I work at a publishing company and for some reason, the editors have started using the serial comma after years of NOT using it. It's not AP style but is mandated by some other style manual. The serial comma is also called the Oxford Comma, which is the name of one of my favorite Vampire Weekend songs ( "Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?")! Since punctuation is about as far off topic as we can get (although bull semen was a close second), I'll bring it back to Adam by saying that I wonder if the repeated comment about how he wouldn't have been able to make this album without his fans may have anything to do with the weird way the single was launched. There was speculation that maybe RCA was trying to see if his fan base and social media would be enough to drive the single without traditional promo. Obviously he still needs TV appearances and interviews to get the song out there, but maybe the fan base had something to do with them trying something different. |
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Post by skylar on Jan 21, 2012 15:55:38 GMT -5
Thankfully SOPA and PIPA were stopped dead in their tracks by the efforts of hundreds of Websites last week -- mostly lead by two sites -- Wipipedia and Google. Sooooo glad to hear this. Was talking to my son about this last night and the privacy ramifications of it are Scaaaarrrry! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ It would have brought about a suing spree of the most epic proportions, internet Armageddon. It is going to take a looong time to figure out the best way to regulate this wild west and will have to come from within. Mark the spot. Google and Wiki hold huuuuuuge power. Pray hard that they set and hold to high ethical and truly democratic standards. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Jan 21, 2012 15:59:06 GMT -5
The current big pop stars have all pushed hard to allow fans to share video and live performances online. Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber both became megastars on the web. Adam (and many other pop artists) has done the same thing. I know that the major labels understand the power of the web. The challenge is how to balance that freedom with selling recorded music. 95% of the digital music people of all ages have on devices was not legally purchased. As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between a 20 year old and a 50 year old and pirated music is that the 20 year olds think it is their right and the 50 year olds know that it is wrong. But the numbers say there are pirates of all ages, all over the world. Hmm, that's really too bad. I do remind myself when I see ads on YouTube, Hulu, Vevo, etc. that it is how people are monetizing all the content that we've been consuming for free, so I try not to get impatient with it. I do believe YouTube is an invaluable tool for the marketing of artists and Gaga, Bieber and Adam are all benefiting from it. The Trent Reznor interview I listened to about a year ago spoke directly to rihannasu's point about people not realizing that when you steal music from an artist, you are greatly affecting their future. Reznor was saying that, in the future, there is going to be a greater bonding between artist and fan because that connection is part of what will prevent people from stealing from them. He used Radiohead as an example of an act with an extremely committed fan base. In the Top40 world, Radiohead might not have No. 1 hits, but their fans are so loyal that they have had freedom to do much of what they've wanted to do musically. One thing about Adam that obviously has been commented on in the radio interviews, so industry people are fully aware (as we've been hearing it for almost three years), there is something about him that fosters intense loyalty and devotion. (Okay, obsession  ...) I think in the past, people who didn't understand it could sit back and think, "Freaks!" but as he connects with more people and gets more widely known, more in the industry are going to realize, "Oh, I kind of get it now ... this wasn't just some random phenomenon, this guy is really pretty damn awesome!" Another thing that is interesting about Adam, is that people rarely just "get over him." Of course there have been a few Idol fans who have moved on, but knowing many hardcore fans, I'd have to say the retention rate in this fandom is quite high. |
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...) I think in the past, people who didn't understand it could sit back and think, "Freaks!" but as he connects with more people and gets more widely known, more in the industry are going to realize, "Oh, I kind of get it now ... this wasn't just some random phenomenon, this guy is really pretty damn awesome!"