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Post by pi on Jul 27, 2023 18:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by pi on Jul 27, 2023 20:19:05 GMT -5
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Post by happy on Jul 27, 2023 22:10:59 GMT -5
Nothing new (re radio and pop music) apple.news/A_htBpNUJSAORGQCTDF8iAwTaylor Swift rules the airwaves! But that’s bad news for music …… Swift is an extremely gifted musician and performer. Her success is well deserved. Nevertheless, her dominance of the airwaves has a negative side. The ubiquitous nature of Swift – the fact that you are almost guaranteed to hear her if you switch on the radio or meander down a high street – doesn’t just speak to her talents, but also to the homogenisation of pop music. It’s not just your imagination: a growing body of research shows that all modern pop music sounds the same. In 2012, for example, the Spanish National Research Council published an analysis of nearly half a million songs released between 1955 and 2010, which showed that the “diversity of … note combinations … has consistently diminished in the last 50 years”. And pop music isn’t just becoming more similar; taste-makers are also focusing on a smaller subset of songs. “Radio stations … are pushing the boundaries of repetitiveness to new levels,” noted a 2014 article in the Atlantic. “Top 40 stations last year played the 10 biggest songs almost twice as much as they did a decade ago.” An increasingly data-driven music industry means there is a growing focus on replicating hits and far less space for nurturing originality. Technology may have given us multiple new ways to listen to music, but increasingly we are hearing the same old tune. It's funny because I was just thinking this last night. I turned on the radio in my car and our local Virgin Radio station was playing the top 5. Taylor Swift's "Cruel Summer" was 2 or 3 and it sounded so much like her other songs I wasn't sure if I had heard it before. I googled it today and it appears to be an older song which her fans have streamed so much that they have pushed it up the charts. Miley Cyrus' "Jaded" was also on the list and it too sounded like a lot of her other songs. Plus all the autotuning really makes the songs sound similar like the Post Malone one that was played. I can't even remember the other two songs but they were both heavily autotuned.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 27, 2023 22:46:14 GMT -5
It's funny because I was just thinking this last night. I turned on the radio in my car and our local Virgin Radio station was playing the top 5. Taylor Swift's "Cruel Summer" was 2 or 3 and it sounded so much like her other songs I wasn't sure if I had heard it before. I googled it today and it appears to be an older song which her fans have streamed so much that they have pushed it up the charts. Miley Cyrus' "Jaded" was also on the list and it too sounded like a lot of her other songs. Plus all the autotuning really makes the songs sound similar like the Post Malone one that was played. I can't even remember the other two songs but they were both heavily autotuned. And it is so sad how they win so many awards with the sound alike atutotuned songs. While I'm glad Adam came along at a time when we could enjoy him, but I wonder what he could have done back in earlier years. At a time when everyone did not have so much vocal help and you actually needed to be able to sing well and have stage presence and showmanship without a stage full of dancers. And all the radio stations were not playing the same artists (with mediocre voices) all day and all night. The early Mowtown years and rock stars/bands like Freddie and Queen and Elvis. Sexuality aside (I'm sure he could not have been out then), Adam would have been something and huge I think. But I'm thrilled we got him. HA,
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Post by happy on Jul 27, 2023 23:05:12 GMT -5
Yes, I have also wondered if Adam's career would have been different before autotune ... but he definitely would have had to hide being gay back then.
I think that Dua Lipa was in the #1 spot last night with I think the song from the Barbie movie. Anyhow I'm not disparaging Taylor Swift. She has been extremely clever with her career. She writes her own songs, she has taken voice lessons to make it stronger, and she has been very engaged with her fans. And I have often thought that Adam could have done a bit more to keep his fans and to make new ones.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 27, 2023 23:34:38 GMT -5
Yes, I have also wondered if Adam's career would have been different before autotune ... but he definitely would have had to hide being gay back then. I think that Dua Lipa was in the #1 spot last night with I think the song from the Barbie movie. Anyhow I'm not disparaging Taylor Swift. She has been extremely clever with her career. She writes her own songs, she has taken voice lessons to make it stronger, and she has been very engaged with her fans. And I have often thought that Adam could have done a bit more to keep his fans and to make new ones. agree. No problem with Taylor or Harry or Miley or anyone getting radio play. But some of them get all of it and with two or three songs on the chart at the same time. It is like forced stardom when only a select few get all the attention, deserved or the best or not. And Adam started when he was close to thirty and not in his teens like many of the big pop acts. So when he would go several years (once for five years) without an album, he was off the charts for a long time. So his pop career was going to be short. And it did not help that he only got a limited pop audience and never went to the top of the chars when most of the heavy hitters get play on multiple charts. They are heard by more fans and have more of an impact. And as I posted a few days ago, Sam's first big hit, Stay with Me, charted on pop, alt, rock, rhythmic, ac and R&B. But I don't think Adam would limit himself so I'm going to guess his labels failed to make the effort. But my question is why? Sam's team could get him on the alt and rock charts so IDGI, lol. But it is pretty amazing the success that Adam has had without massive hits. And his career is diverse so that has served him well.
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Post by SophieB on Jul 28, 2023 0:34:03 GMT -5
lurleene . But Sam was definitely not ‘out’ then. His team worked hard to cover up and get him established first.
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Post by lurleene on Jul 28, 2023 1:34:23 GMT -5
lurleene . But Sam was definitely not ‘out’ then. His team worked hard to cover up and get him established first. Yep. Sam was at the top of the charts before he came out. Adam was out in the beginning so I would not expect him to go to #1 on all those charts and #35 on rock like Sam did. But he may have been able to get some additional exposure. It is not as if he was at the top of the pop charts either. And he is not on pop radio at all now so why not try something else? He is the Queen frontman so who knows, some of the less competitive charts and non-youth oriented charts may give him a chance? Any exposure is better than nothing. I have been watching Greta Van Fleet as their frontman came out as gay a few months ago. Like Sam and LNX and Frank, he was not out in the beginning either before charting and winning a Grammy. They are up to #28 on the rock charts with their new song and moving up so they seem to be holding their own. Progress, I guess. I hope.
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Post by happy on Jul 28, 2023 22:04:33 GMT -5
SophieB Remember how we were talking about people having careers after X Factor. I just googled Leona Lewis and she seems to be doing okay. I remember she had a big hit here in North America and then kind of disappeared. Anyhow what I wanted to ask about is Calum Scott. The other day there was a television show where Simon Cowell was counting down the best auditions from AGT and BGT. He claimed that Calum was a big star now. What do you think?
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