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Post by glamtealady on Feb 10, 2012 13:38:20 GMT -5
I think the bottom line is we all want Adam to be successful and want everyone to be on board as we are. Considering the short amount of time he has been making his own music he is doing great and this will be his year, it will be very hard for people to resist.
I think the US blast is going to start next week and I can not wait. More interviews and acoustic sets for the radio people means lots of vid for us.
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 10, 2012 13:40:28 GMT -5
there have been so many great points made here today. no angel, Q3, suzie, cassie the monkey and all of you! like i have said before the fan base adam attracts is another big reason i continue to follow him so closely. Thank you EVERYONE!!!!!! keep on sharing your amazing thoughts. LMAO I love how I am simply "the monkey" haaa And yes Lifeguard I WILL marry you!! huzzah! |
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Post by reihmer on Feb 10, 2012 13:41:51 GMT -5
Let's see some sparky pretty. I made it from an old photo.  Nice work iceish. |
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Post by reihmer on Feb 10, 2012 13:45:44 GMT -5
From cocooyau: hahhah, two years later… 2012 02 08  |
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Post by evamaria on Feb 10, 2012 13:50:27 GMT -5
I also wanted to say really quickly that I wonder why ANYONE thinks that Adam wiill have an easier time with a different single? So far it seems like a lot of people whine and say that a different single like Cuckoo or Trespassing would be totally different and smash right away, etc etc, BUT....1) We haven;t even heard these songs yet so how do we even know if we would actually even like them 2.) Adam has never had an easy time on radio, and until he has at least one big mega smash I can't see him having an easier time. I think we need to adjust our expectations and realize that even if he did drop an amazing utempo tomorrow, it may still be a slow grower. He may ALWAYS be one. Who knows. My first post here, so hello! I read Q3's post, then read on. This is a really good post, too, as it's true that we haven't heard the songs and have no way of knowing if they can be hits. However, I find the claim that btikm is typical for Adam a bit too pessimistic. Adam has had a hit: WWFM. That song didn't race up the charts and sell 10 million singles, but it moved way faster than btikm and sold nearly 2 million. Adam can sell a song. Radio has not blacklisted him. Had rca assumed that all Adam songs were doomed to perform poorly on the radio, they would never have switched to wwfm. That would have been a poor decision. |
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Post by gabby on Feb 10, 2012 13:54:47 GMT -5
My first post here, so hello! I read Q3's post, then read on. This is a really good post, too, as it's true that we haven't heard the songs and have no way of knowing if they can be hits. However, I find the claim that btikm is typical for Adam a bit too pessimistic. Adam has had a hit: WWFM. That song didn't race up the charts and sell 10 million singles, but it moved way faster than btikm and sold nearly 2 million. Adam can sell a song. Radio has not blacklisted him. Had rca assumed that all Adam songs were doomed to perform poorly on the radio, they would never have switched to wwfm. That would have been a poor decision.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2012 13:59:01 GMT -5
REALLY enjoying everyone's posts today, too - really am.
Adam is soo smart and intuitive and then smart again. I really think he's thought through sooo much of all of what many of you are talking about, and then more, and really is shooting at super-stardom while being absolutely beautifully authentic and true to HIMself (which, of course, he could never really talk about completely directly without looking like an egotistical ass! - which he would never do).
(And why SHOULD'NT he attain super-stardom, I ask myself? He has it ALL. I have an opinion why he won't on US pop radio - and it ends in "phobia" - but, godDAMNit if he's NOT gonna let that stop him from taking his best shot. So, prove me wrong, Adam. You're a MOTHER-FUCKING BEAST. Go ahead, DOMINATE US pop radio!)
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Post by reihmer on Feb 10, 2012 13:59:02 GMT -5
My first post here, so hello! I read Q3's post, then read on. This is a really good post, too, as it's true that we haven't heard the songs and have no way of knowing if they can be hits. However, I find the claim that btikm is typical for Adam a bit too pessimistic. Adam has had a hit: WWFM. That song didn't race up the charts and sell 10 million singles, but it moved way faster than btikm and sold nearly 2 million. Adam can sell a song. Radio has not blacklisted him. Had rca assumed that all Adam songs were doomed to perform poorly on the radio, they would never have switched to wwfm. That would have been a poor decision.  |
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Post by isitjustme on Feb 10, 2012 13:59:47 GMT -5
Popping out of my rabbit hole ... I don't do it often as RL gets in the way. And if this has been referenced already, please just ignore me.
But regarding the 'why' of releasing BTIKM first ... my little pea brain seems to remember an interview (I believe in the SF PR rounds) where Adam said that he/they wanted people to get to know him from the inside first before 'taking them to the club.' I liked that.
I also agree whole heartedly with Cassie about the pop buyers not really caring about the 'Voice' (and as Tigerlily said 'this IS pop music we're talking about here'). And I also agree with NoAngel that 'gay, Idol, and male pop star' all DO make a difference.
OK, back to my hole. I love all of you ... some of you make me laugh, some make me cry, some make me think ... but you all feel like family. Thanks for being here.
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 10, 2012 14:05:45 GMT -5
Remember what Adam said about getting the collective eyeroll? This is still happening with him for a number of reasons. The main one is that he's gay, another important one is that the FYE era had a very flamboyant gay who pushed a lot of buttons with the AMA's, his GNT concerts, and his music in general with FYE and Fever in particular. People in my family give him the collective eyeroll all the time and will not listen to his music. I've gotten to where I just don't mention him at all even though they know I follow him intensely. They just don't want to hear about it and when they do it's eyeroll time again. I hate to say it, but I wish he had started the first era off like he is with this one. I think it would have gone over better and gained him more fans. As it is, he has a loyal fan base that stuck with him through everything in the first era, but I believe the fans he gained during FYE era were mostly overseas. I just don't see him selling much here in America and that may be why they are concentrating on the overseas market this time around. They know radio is still eyerolling him along with all the haters here in America and that it will take making him big overseas first to get him in the door over here. I do believe that Adam will make it big in other ways also, especially with Queen. I see that gig as being the way Adam gets his name out there around the world in a big way and hopefully here in America too. Sorry that I'm rambling but also want to say that I will be so pissed if radio plays the heck out of Kris's new music while shunning Adam. I may just burst a blood vessel over that one, if it happens. I too come from an eye-rolling family who won't even listen to him to even know WTAF they're talking about, but I don't agree that radio or people in general are eye-rolling him. The reviews across the board and every article written in the U.S. this era so far (except for one or two minor "rawk blogs,") have treated him as a talented artist deserving of respect. I think that radio is being in their own insular world and making him jump through a lot of lame hoops. I also agree with Tigerlily that for him to be a groundbreaking artist, he has to stick to his guns and make the world come to him, not vice-versa. It might never be easy, but being an artist of significance rarely is. I don't know that I agree that the haters here in America have any real power [ETA: too keep him off radio completely – sorry, forgot that part] (some, but I really think they are more of a very loud minority that gets a lot of attention like a 3-year-old throwing a fit in the grocery store – we all try to ignore them and they get more strident). The tens of thousands of people who attended his concerts in the U.S. and stood in line and stood the entire show and cheered their asses off at every single show (except maybe Lubbock) were not hardcore fans. THEY were a cross market of every demographic and they LOVED HIM. Since I attended Fantasy Springs and both Costa Mesa shows (again, O.C. is considered the most conservative region of CA and he had an audience of more than 18K over two days), these were families, some hardcore fans of course, hipsters, older people, young singles, gay people, you name it. These people are out there, they just need to find out that he has new music. It just takes awhile sometimes. This was my perspective of Costa Mesa crowd:  That's a lot of people and they went nuts for him. |
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