|
|
Post by SusieFierce on Feb 16, 2012 10:08:09 GMT -5
I said I HATED the Joe R nal-priority theory & I agree that it's very far-fetched and makes no sense. But I'm not sure it's all nal stans as someone brought it up here in this thread. In fact that's why I mentioned it. I think many of us are puzzled and grasping at straws for explanations as to why BTIKM hasn't done as well as we expected thus far and why RCA was late with the promo. But I'm not angsting & I'm not giving up on BTIKM. It's still heading in the right direction and this East Coast promo has to help! I think anyone grasping at NAL straws needs to be ignored. Even if they aren't his fans they obvsly are shit stirrers/concern trollers or need to step back and take a few deep breaths lolol cause that is REALLY stretching it lmaoooooooooo Sorry, I so don't get this entire conversation. Where again do we get that BTIKM isn't being "pushed," when he has visited so many stations we can't keep track and pimped the song and sung it multiple times live over the past few days and may sing it as many as FOUR today?? What would we call that then? Just wondering. And the nal thing is laughable. I think, like MKIA, as Kelly said, the first single is meant to be a reintroduction to the media, public and radio. It is not meant to be the two-one punch. That's RCA's theory and looks like they're sticking to it for Adam's roll-out. Their theory proved accurate for Kelly. MKIA had a slow but steady climb primarily on HAC that seemed to stall in many places and her fans were saying EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS as so many Adam fans are. Then they release Stronger about 5.5 months later and it flew up the charts. |
|
|
|
Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 16, 2012 10:20:13 GMT -5
I think anyone grasping at NAL straws needs to be ignored. Even if they aren't his fans they obvsly are shit stirrers/concern trollers or need to step back and take a few deep breaths lolol cause that is REALLY stretching it lmaoooooooooo Sorry, I so don't get this entire conversation. Where again do we get that BTIKM isn't being "pushed," when he has visited so many stations we can't keep track and pimped the song and sung it multiple times live over the past few days and may sing it as many as FOUR today?? What would we call that then? Just wondering. And the nal thing is laughable. I think, like MKIA, as Kelly said, the first single is meant to be a reintroduction to the media, public and radio. It is not meant to be the two-one punch. That's RCA's theory and looks like they're sticking to it for Adam's roll-out. Their theory proved accurate for Kelly. MKIA had a slow but steady climb primarily on HAC that seemed to stall in many places and her fans were saying EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS as so many Adam fans are. Then they release Stronger about 5.5 months later and it flew up the charts. No is--well at least not me--saying that it isn;t being pushed. I am just wondering to the extent it is, wondering about other theories people have about his roll out and such and whether they are tring to be creative and such. I NEVER once believe they aren;t doing something. But personally I'd rather try and talk things out rationally then RUN AROUND AND FLAIL like some peeps lol. Rational discussion to counteract the irrational cries of doom. |
|
FanOfTheMan
Member
Love Our Guy!
Posts: 4,205
Location:
|
Post by FanOfTheMan on Feb 16, 2012 10:21:20 GMT -5
Susie Fierce-
I agree with you. Yours is the theory that makes sense to me.
8-)
I agree with you too, chunky. The NAL theory is ridiculous.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 10:29:09 GMT -5
The big thing these "concern trolls" are forgetting is that King Joe is the same guy that screwed up NAL's first album and singles 2 and 3!!    |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 10:29:21 GMT -5
Sticking in toe ... please don't hate me ...
Mapril worries me in a way I have never been worried in 2 1/2 years of following Adam. Things seemed to be going so well about the album. Rave reviews, people saying there were four or five singles even better than BTIKM (which I LOVE). That the music was crazy and great.
And I agree with Susie that the promo for BTIKM seems great. The video is amazing and while it isn't flying up the charts it seems to be doing OK.
So, why, suddenly, does Adam need a Bruno castoff and some other Claude Kelly song? And it is worth delaying the record again this late in the game, with promo appearing in March magazines now appearing on newsstands and the like?
What am I missing? I have strained my mind to interpret this in some way other than that RCA is not happy with the album or the possible singles. The idea of Cuckoo or Trespassing as singles suddenly seems far away.
I don't get it and perhaps we are just missing too much information at this point to fill in the gaps and feel better. We may just have to wait and see. I admit I feel tortured but recognize that is my problem not Adam's or anyone else's.
|
|
|
|
Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 16, 2012 10:38:07 GMT -5
Sticking in toe ... please don't hate me ... Mapril worries me in a way I have never been worried in 2 1/2 years of following Adam. Things seemed to be going so well about the album. Rave reviews, people saying there were four or five singles even better than BTIKM (which I LOVE). That the music was crazy and great. And I agree with Susie that the promo for BTIKM seems great. The video is amazing and while it isn't flying up the charts it seems to be doing OK. So, why, suddenly, does Adam need a Bruno castoff and some other Claude Kelly song? And it is worth delaying the record again this late in the game, with promo appearing in March magazines now appearing on newsstands and the like? What am I missing? I have strained my mind to interpret this in some way other than that RCA is not happy with the album or the possible singles. The idea of Cuckoo or Trespassing as singles suddenly seems far away. I don't get it and perhaps we are just missing too much information at this point to fill in the gaps and feel better. We may just have to wait and see. I admit I feel tortured but recognize that is my problem not Adam's or anyone else's. I think you just answered your own question LOL Adam said the delay is about last min collabs that came through and he seemed genuinely excited so I believe him. I believe these songs will be IN ADDITION TO the ones already raved about and will only help further how good of an album this is and his potential for hit singles. He is the executive producer...I trust him. Even if RCA made him add these songs (which I doubt) it's not like he is throwing away his whole album. Remember that vid? He was suuper excited abt the poossibility of one collab and I think maybe it finally came true. He was super excited yo so that means it should be good. Also he said re-strategize. I think they have lots of tricks up their sleeves, and want this to hit hard. I would be more worried frankly if they didn't seem to want this to do the best it can and just dumped it out there. Clearly they have a lot invested in this and are working hard behind the scenes on making the album full of amazing songs. It's the not knowing every little detalthat sucks...but I think we;ll live lmaooooo |
|
|
|
Post by twotrue on Feb 16, 2012 10:49:03 GMT -5
If the NAL comments are directed at me, please go back and read my post again because I think you are misunderstanding my point. I never said that RCA is not doing right by Adam or that NAL is more of a priority. To the contrary, I was trying to show that RCA probably doesn't expect BTIKM to burnup the pop charts. I was fringe to diffuse the angst we've seen over this idea that the first single off a new album has to be a smash or the whole project is doomed. I think in NAL 'sis case, that is the case because what else is there to sell the album. I would guess that most people outside the AI bubble don't even remember who he is. RCA has to pull out all the stops at the outset. Adam is in a completely differently situation and I think his promo reflects that. Like I tried to say, I think they are trying.g to position him more as a critically acclaimed, Grammy-nominated artist than just the singer of a good pop tune. I agreethat they are saving the heavyhandex promo for the next single, which I too think was always meant to come out right before or at the time of the album.
|
|
|
|
Post by stardust on Feb 16, 2012 10:50:09 GMT -5
Mediabase
HAC
33 31 ADAM LAMBERT BetterThan I Know M... 514 413 101 2.299
+13 Spins
+4 Bullet
-0.009 AI
C HAC
30 38 ADAM LAMBERT BetterThan I Know M... 186 198 -12 1.461
-1 Position
-2 Spins
-2 Bullet
-0.036 AI
|
|
|
|
Post by bullsfan on Feb 16, 2012 10:54:52 GMT -5
Well, don't hate me either, lol, but I think if the label had confidence that Trespassing and Cuckoo were obvious radio hits, they would be heading that direction instead of rushing last minute to complete two new Dr. Luke "radio songs." This isn't a bad thing---I am going to trust RCA and Adam that they know what is needed. I do wonder if Cuckoo,and maybe a few other tracks, are a little like Music Again----people LOVED this song, critics loved it, but the label just didn't think it was a good fit for radio.
And, CLEARLY, this all speculation, but I think MAJOR deals were made for WWFM. And this is not a knock on the song at all. It was hugely successful. But after FYE and the AMAs, RCA HAD to get the ball rolling in a big way for WWFM. IF RCA knows that CHR is perhaps not wild about BTIKM, I hope they save the deal-making for the next single. And I hope they make sure it's a song that pop will love.
eta---I may be wrong, but I think people are talking about "behind the scenes" pushing of the single. Sure Adam is singing it on all the station visits (Cook did the same thing with TLG), but I have to think RCA could get this single on Z100 if they wanted to. BTIKM may not be the most exciting CHR song, but it's a good song and certainly not offensive at all. If making the song a pop hit was priority to RCA they would work a deal.
|
|
|
|
Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 16, 2012 10:55:28 GMT -5
If the NAL comments are directed at me, please go back and read my post again because I think you are misunderstanding my point. I never said that RCA is not doing right by Adam or that NAL is more of a priority. To the contrary, I was trying to show that RCA probably doesn't expect BTIKM to burnup the pop charts. I was fringe to diffuse the angst we've seen over this idea that the first single off a new album has to be a smash or the whole project is doomed. I think in NAL 'sis case, that is the case because what else is there to sell the album. I would guess that most people outside the AI bubble don't even remember who he is. RCA has to pull out all the stops at the outset. Adam is in a completely differently situation and I think his promo reflects that. Like I tried to say, I think they are trying.g to position him more as a critically acclaimed, Grammy-nominated artist than just the singer of a good pop tune. I agreethat they are saving the heavyhandex promo for the next single, which I too think was always meant to come out right before or at the time of the album. I actually have NO IDEA where these NAL stuff is coming from because I haven;t seen it myself...I was assuming it came from that...other place lolol |
|
