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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 21, 2012 18:34:03 GMT -5
Guys WHY tho do we assume it's the next single? I mean if it smashes I don't care what it is.....but good lord.....Wonering if ppl are just extrapolating?
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Post by melliemom on Feb 21, 2012 18:34:53 GMT -5
what about the logistics of changing the song in other countries,when BTIKM is just getting on their charts,i.e. Japan,Russia,etc.
I'm sick over this , It just seems that RCA sabotaged BTIKM.
When the cd came out ,it got nothing but praise and there was no effort to promote it by RCA. Poor Adam his hands seem to be tied. Why does RCA go the safe route,Adam's new offbeat stuff,would IMHO ,make people stand up and listen. This is so sick and so unlike Adam . He's an innovator not a copier of pop music. I am so sad right now.
I'm really starting to think that RCA is too vanilla for Adam and is not giving him the ability to use his own music. It reminds me of the video he made talking about how much freedom he had when he worked for Scarlett and Lee Cherry.. remember the fucking fire coming out of his head idea??? Five year contract with RCA not feeling it!!
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Post by bullsfan on Feb 21, 2012 18:36:59 GMT -5
I almost wonder if there was a deal with Claude that he would get the first single.
I have absolutely no idea what is going on. But, this had to be a pretty expensive album to make, lots of top names. And if RCA didn't want it to be successful, they wouldn't be delaying things to make changes. I think people in the industry love Adam, and he has a lot of support behind the project. I am still believeing that have given themselves more time, and they are going to figure out what works. Or how to make something work.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 18:40:39 GMT -5
Guys WHY tho do we assume it's the next single? I mean if it smashes I don't care what it is.....but good lord.....Wonering if ppl are just extrapolating? Because in all the LA interviews that Adam did the end of last month he said the Bruno song probably was not going to be on the album. It didn't seem to fit. Then all of a sudden the album is being delayed and the Bruno song is being finished. And Adam did make a remark in one interview about it being a possible single and radio ready. IMO, the lyrics do not fit Adam's theme of the album either, which is probably what he meant when he said it didn't "fit." |
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 21, 2012 18:42:51 GMT -5
Yeah I kinda think it's time to cut their losses now too. I sure hope there is a method to the madness....I mean singles don't always work but this kinda seemed like they didn't even give it a chance...I sure hope it's because they are saving up the huge pushes for the next singe(s).... Oh and how did we decide the next single is Bruno's anyways? We don't know that. Gah, it's hard to believe they didn't want this to be a success bc they gave it an expensive video...but nada. I don't get it. I DK WHY they would want this venture to fail...if so why dump all this money into it? So weird. They didn't want this venture to fail. RCA thought enough of Adam to move on once it became pretty obvious that BTIKM was going to struggle just to be an HAC hit. RCA didn't want that for Adam, and IMO that is a positive instead of a negative. BTIKM wasn't going to be a hit on CHR and it was going to take a ton of time and money to push it up the HAC charts. It was having problems in Canada and all over Europe as well, where Adam's songs have usually flown up the charts. Why spend six months on a song to push it to the top 10 on HAC? HAC doesn't sell singles and it doesn't help to push album sales. RCA knows they need a song that has some kind of presence on the CHR chart. Why not cut their losses now and put all their resources behind the second single? It makes sense in the long run! |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 21, 2012 18:43:21 GMT -5
Guys WHY tho do we assume it's the next single? I mean if it smashes I don't care what it is.....but good lord.....Wonering if ppl are just extrapolating? Because in all the LA interviews that Adam did the end of last month he said the Bruno song probably was not going to be on the album. It didn't seem to fit. Then all of a sudden the album is being delayed and the Bruno song is being finished. And Adam did make a remark in one interview about it being a possible single and radio ready. IMO, the lyrics do not fit Adam's theme of the album either, which is probably what he meant when he said it didn't "fit." \ Hmmm. Maybe they r we-working it because I notice he says it's a "co write" too so maybe he changed some lyrics and stuff. I just hope it's good, good enough to be a hit so he can release Cuckoo and stuff next. I am trying to be zen. Just tell myself sometimes singles don't click...my happy place is knowing that at least they r re strategizing and delaying the album so things can be sorted out....and that they spent a shitload of money on this and if they let it fail it's on their backs. |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 21, 2012 18:45:54 GMT -5
Yeah I kinda think it's time to cut their losses now too. I sure hope there is a method to the madness....I mean singles don't always work but this kinda seemed like they didn't even give it a chance...I sure hope it's because they are saving up the huge pushes for the next singe(s).... Oh and how did we decide the next single is Bruno's anyways? We don't know that. Gah, it's hard to believe they didn't want this to be a success bc they gave it an expensive video...but nada. I don't get it. I DK WHY they would want this venture to fail...if so why dump all this money into it? So weird. They didn't want this venture to fail. RCA thought enough of Adam to move on once it became pretty obvious that BTIKM was going to struggle just to be an HAC hit. RCA didn't want that for Adam, and IMO that is a positive instead of a negative. BTIKM wasn't going to be a hit on CHR and it was going to take a ton of time and money to push it up the HAC charts. It was having problems in Canada and all over Europe as well, where Adam's songs have usually flown up the charts. Why spend six months on a song to push it to the top 10 on HAC? HAC doesn't sell singles and it doesn't help to push album sales. RCA knows they need a song that has some kind of presence on the CHR chart. Why not cut their losses now and put all their resources behind the second single? It makes sense in the long run! No no no bb I agree, I am not wording it right....I am saying basically that there is no reason for them to want him to fail...it wouldn't make sense given everything...so hence I don't think they WNAT or ARE going to let him fail...I just think things r wonky lol. But hopeful they have a plan or are gonna be more bold, push like mad second go round |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 18:46:30 GMT -5
Apologizing in advance for this rant. I'm not a music industry expert, but IMHO RCA botched the launch of BTIKM and is wholly to blame for its poor showing to date. First of all, if it is true that PDs won't play BTIKM, why didn't RCA do some research to figure that out before releasing the song? Reading all the UK reviews of Trespassing, it sounds like BTIKM doesn't represent the album very well, nor did the UK peeps think it would fit on the radio. If this is true for the U.S. as well, why persist in releasing BTIKM as the first single? Second, the release of the song in December during the holidays, and with nothing more than a few tweets from Adam and RCA, completely robbed BTIKM of any momentum it could have had. After the first few weeks when the hard-core fans bought the song, it just languished until radio play slowly started. A song sitting at the bottom half of the Itunes 1000 for weeks on end does not communicate "hit". And the ugly truth is that perception is reality. Regardless of why BTIKM has poor sales, the perception that it is a flop with music fans will perpetuate itself, fairly or not. It would take a whole lot of radio play and support to drive that song up the Itunes chart, and I doubt that at this point it is going to happen. It wouldn't surprise me if PDs looked at Itunes and said "this song has been out for a couple of months, no one wants it, why should we play it?" Maybe a self-fulfilling prophecy, but it's hard to argue with this POV. I've gotta admit BTIKM is not one of my favorite Adam cuts -- the song itself and the production just sounds a bit too generic for my taste (not Adam's fault). But it certainly could have done a hell of a lot better with the right support. Sorry for the rant -- I have been pissed at RCA for several weeks, but I have been trying to stay hopeful. So much good news to be happy about -- Adam and Queen!!! But RCA screwed up the start of Adam's second era and I am annoyed and surprised that they could have handled this so badly. Ugh. Okay, now going to think about Adam and Queen (!!!) again ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 18:46:51 GMT -5
Because in all the LA interviews that Adam did the end of last month he said the Bruno song probably was not going to be on the album. It didn't seem to fit. Then all of a sudden the album is being delayed and the Bruno song is being finished. And Adam did make a remark in one interview about it being a possible single and radio ready. IMO, the lyrics do not fit Adam's theme of the album either, which is probably what he meant when he said it didn't "fit." \ Hmmm. Maybe they r we-working it because I notice he says it's a "co write" too so maybe he changed some lyrics and stuff. I just hope it's good, good enough to be a hit so he can release Cuckoo and stuff next. I am trying to be zen. Just tell myself sometimes singles don't click...my happy place is knowing that at least they r re strategizing and delaying the album so things can be sorted out....and that they spent a shitload of money on this and if they let it fail it's on their backs. I don't remember Adam saying the Bruno song was a co-write? Ever. There is a Claude kelly song that is a co-write. |
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 21, 2012 18:49:54 GMT -5
what about the logistics of changing the song in other countries,when BTIKM is just getting on their charts,i.e. Japan,Russia,etc. I'm sick over this , It just seems that RCA sabotaged BTIKM. When the cd came out ,it got nothing but praise and there was no effort to promote it by RCA. Poor Adam his hands seem to be tied. Why does RCA go the safe route,Adam's new offbeat stuff,would IMHO ,make people stand up and listen. This is so sick and so unlike Adam . He's an innovator not a copier of pop music. I am so sad right now. I'm really starting to think that RCA is too vanilla for Adam and is not giving him the ability to use his own music. It reminds me of the video he made talking about how much freedom he had when he worked for Scarlett and Lee Cherry.. remember the fucking fire coming out of his head idea??? Five year contract with RCA not feeling it!! RCA is not sabotaging Adam! Why would they want to do that? They don't want to make money off of an artist that sold at least 1.3 million cds and had a Grammy nomination? If RCA didn't care, they would have let this play out with a single that wasn't going to make it in a huge way and they would have released the album on March 20th. RCA is delaying the album because they are trying to release it with a better single on the charts to give it a better chance. |
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