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Post by adamrocks on Feb 24, 2012 22:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Feb 24, 2012 22:00:57 GMT -5
I do think there are a lot of people who honestly do not like vibrato. I mostly prefer it over straight tone. Freddie sang with a bit of vibrato here and there. And he was a trained pianist, but not a trained singer, according to my quick reading inline. Am I right?  You are mostly correct as far as I know --- When he was young and in school in India, he studied piano and may have gotten some vocal instruction -- but he had no formal vocal training. ETA: I think Freddy used more than a bit of vibrato -- particularly in his late 70's live performances. |
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Post by momtomany on Feb 24, 2012 22:01:16 GMT -5
Adam had no break whatsoever at the end of SMGO in Belfast. Everything in those notes was put there with craft and emotion and precision. Adam knew exactly what to do, even in a moment of such adrenaline-fed excitement. Nothing, vocally, was missed or adapted. Adam was in control of his instrument.
I do remember noticing how he corrected his vocal placement, in a nano-moment, at the end of 'Mad World'; the first performance; on Idol.
I'm intrigued by the way many vocal critics and experts refer to Adam's vibrato. Vibrato is a natural, authentic pulsation . . . much like your heartbeat . . . when a voice is coming from the right place. An exquisite, bell-like, clear voice - will live, and only age as a body ages, when used correctly. Which means that a voice coming from the 'right place' is effortless! I know that seems hard to believe. But it's really true. Breath support isn't effortless; singing on key, to some, isn't effortless. Placing the voice 'in your head' requires letting go, and really being courageous enough to let the voice climb into its place. Vibrato is the underlying foundation of vocal expression; and flows effortlessly in a way that is unique to each vocal instrument. Unlike our hearts, it doesn't really speed up if you're excited. Instead, maybe 'the ring' - an sort of extension 'down-to-up' or 'deep-to-light' may be slightly more pronounced when nervous or excited; but vibrato is vibrato; and a trained voice never manufactures it. It is just there. Like the beating of your heart.
Vocalists often 'sing through' vibrato, which is easy to do when forcing exhalation during the singing or sustaining of notes. Straight tone can enhance mood or feeling; or certainly be more effective in certain genres of music.
There are vocalists who always 'sing at the throat' and force those powerful straight tones; without any vibrato, because they never cultivate their instrument, or let their instrument - their vocal cords - just relax and be; and let a natural tone find its place. They manufacture the tone. This technique forces, pushes and strains. You can hear it in the notes. It may sound like emotion; it may convey real emotion, but it leads to the same problems each of us suffer when we use any muscle group, or any repetitive motion, too often or in the wrong way.
I just know Adam understands his vocal instrument so well. He has always looked at his ability to sing as an abstract of himself. His is an instrument he wants to explore, perfect, strengthen and experiment with - - - but he will not abuse it, nor hurt it, as a process in his learning.
I have studied voice for many years; and this man, half my age, is a vocal genius.
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Feb 24, 2012 22:02:14 GMT -5
I'm not even a metal fan or even familiar with metal fans and i read the interviewer as an asshole. it's like I said, he was just stopping short of saying Adam had no business singing with Queen. Glad to see some metal fans stepping up and calling bullshit on this. Actually, I think intended or not, he probably did Adam a good service. The tone and snarkiness is apparently quite berty and complimentary coming from NME and how they talk to and about other artists. He brought up some comments that are appearing over and over from the naysayers in plain terms, and showed how Adam responded to these direct questions with class and humor, and wasn't skurred. And now some of the metal/Sonisphere fans can be all, hey now, we're not that bad... hdu! ;D |
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Post by reihmer on Feb 24, 2012 22:02:19 GMT -5
You are mostly correct as far as I know --- When he was young and in school in India, he studied piano and may have gotten some vocal instruction -- but he had no formal vocal training. And because he got no formal training he constantly got nodules from pushing to hard - I believe. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 24, 2012 22:09:35 GMT -5
Adam had no break whatsoever at the end of SMGO in Belfast. Everything in those notes was put there with craft and emotion and precision. Adam knew exactly what to do, even in a moment of such adrenaline-fed excitement. Nothing, vocally, was missed or adapted. Adam was in control of his instrument. I do remember noticing how he corrected his vocal placement, in a nano-moment, at the end of 'Mad World'; the first performance; on Idol. I'm intrigued by the way many vocal critics and experts refer to Adam's vibrato. Vibrato is a natural, authentic pulsation . . . much like your heartbeat . . . when a voice is coming from the right place. An exquisite, bell-like, clear voice - will live, and only age as a body ages, when used correctly. Which means that a voice coming from the 'right place' is effortless! I know that seems hard to believe. But it's really true. Breath support isn't effortless; singing on key, to some, isn't effortless. Placing the voice 'in your head' requires letting go, and really being courageous enough to let the voice climb into its place. Vibrato is the underlying foundation of vocal expression; and flows effortlessly in a way that is unique to each vocal instrument. Unlike our hearts, it doesn't really speed up if you're excited. Instead, maybe 'the ring' - an sort of extension 'down-to-up' or 'deep-to-light' may be slightly more pronounced when nervous or excited; but vibrato is vibrato; and a trained voice never manufactures it. It is just there. Like the beating of your heart. Vocalists often 'sing through' vibrato, which is easy to do when forcing exhalation during the singing or sustaining of notes. Straight tone can enhance mood or feeling; or certainly be more effective in certain genres of music. There are vocalists who always 'sing at the throat' and force those powerful straight tones; without any vibrato, because they never cultivate their instrument, or let their instrument - their vocal cords - just relax and be; and let a natural tone find its place. They manufacture the tone. This technique forces, pushes and strains. You can hear it in the notes. It may sound like emotion; it may convey real emotion, but it leads to the same problems each of us suffer when we use any muscle group, or any repetitive motion, too often or in the wrong way. I just know Adam understands his vocal instrument so well. He has always looked at his ability to sing as an abstract of himself. His is an instrument he wants to explore, perfect, strengthen and experiment with - - - but he will not abuse it, nor hurt it, as a process in his learning. I have studied voice for many years; and this man, half my age, is a vocal genius. Thank you for your explanation, Momtomany. That was wonderfully stated. |
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Post by wal on Feb 24, 2012 22:13:33 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert “@jakeshears: Nothing like a studio visit from Nile Rodgers to wake the room up instagr.am/p/HXpOwslmDY/” can I come play?!  
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 24, 2012 22:16:13 GMT -5
Vibrato is a natural occurrence. Pop singers (especially WGWGs ) force the natural vibrato out of their voice and sing with a straight tone. Freddie, Elvis, Josh Groban Celine Dion, Whitney all use/used vibrato. Even Adele uses vibrato. |
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Post by cayman on Feb 24, 2012 22:17:47 GMT -5
Shoot........I should have kept reading instead of stopping to post. You cleared up the confusion :D By the way, did you see that Kanadie is back?? Happy Day! And Cayman you're back too! - an excellent treatment for the melancholia. I know you are setting an example so I keep voting and requesting and such, casting my bread upon the waters with hope and faith. (Apparently we are able to multitask : ) Hi Friend!! Yes, I vote and request everyday. Want to keep my special PIA happy :D We better make the countdown tomorrow or I will have to try the intimidation route : (unfortunately I am not very intimidating) My sidekick is though  |
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Post by murly on Feb 24, 2012 22:24:03 GMT -5
I do think there are a lot of people who honestly do not like vibrato. I mostly prefer it over straight tone. Freddie sang with a bit of vibrato here and there. And he was a trained pianist, but not a trained singer, according to my quick reading inline. Am I right? I prefer it over a straight tone too. I was just thinking that the other night watching American Idol--that some of the singers belted with no vibrato, and it sounded like yelling. Of course, too much vibrato isn't good--it's often called "goat throat"--but I think the best singers use vibrato when they hold a long note. |
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