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Post by bertiebotts on Apr 3, 2012 11:40:22 GMT -5
Thank you for all the explanations... now I feel even more confused than before lol! ;D Okay, "Hey, pay attention to this" makes sense. // "Let's Juice?!!" Awesome! A Great New Glambert Anthem...
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Post by 4Ms on Apr 3, 2012 11:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 11:45:11 GMT -5
^^^^GET A LOAD OF THAT^^^
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Post by murly on Apr 3, 2012 11:47:24 GMT -5
The conversation about understanding (or misunderstanding) lyrics makes me smile. Even when you speak the language, it's easy to hear something different than what was actually sung. Many people think that Jimi Hendrix sang, "'Scuse me while I kiss this guy." Or that Creedence Clearwater Revival was pointing out that "There's a bathroom on the right." One of mine was from Paul Simon's song "The Boxer"; for years, I thought the line was, "Asking only workman's wages, I come looking for a job, But I get no offers. Just a come-on from the war zone, Seventh Avenue." Imagine my surprise when I finally saw the lyrics written down and discovered that the last line was "Just a come-on from the WHORES ON Seventh Avenue." Misheard lyrics are called "Mondegreens," a term coined by a woman who had grown up believing that the words to a poem her mother used to read to her were: Ye Highlands and ye Lowlands, Oh, where hae ye been? They hae slain the Earl O' Moray, And Lady Mondegreen. As an adult she learned that the last line was really, "And laid him on the green." She wrote an essay about this for Harper's Magazine in November 1954, called "The Death of Lady Mondegreen" and the word is now in the dictionary. Here's a site with some funny examples of Mondegreens: www.amiright.com/misheard/
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Post by kryptoman68 on Apr 3, 2012 11:48:17 GMT -5
Question for the English as a second language fans: As I was listening to Cuckoo yesterday I was noticing how many expressions Adams uses in his songs: crazy train, on the loose, get down, get a load of me, and on and on. It must be very difficult, even for those who speak basic English, to fully understand some of his songs. Do you feel like we do when reading translations of Sauli (wishing we could understand the nuances of his language choices)? Is this of any consideration when trying to sell a song internationally? It is never easy to understand all the lyrics in a song, even for native speakers (I am NOT one of them), and even when the singer has perfect diction (like Adam!). Back in the days behind the Iron Curtain, it was very difficult to get the actual written lyrics of Western music, they were copied and traded around as the original work was not available to purchase (it was considered "Western Propaganda" by the government). I remember sending and receiving actual snail mails from other fans, trying to complete my collection of, say, Helloween (the German Metal band) songs. In fact, I learned half of my English vocabulary from rock music lyrics! I remember waiting in line for a TOEFL test (Test Of English as a Foreign Language) in the first years of democracy in Bulgaria and we were discussing obscure English words with some guys. One asked me whether I knew the word for the ghost lights sometimes seen over swamps and to my surprise I knew that thanks to one of those metal songs - The Keeper Of The Sever Keys! :D ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o'-the-wisp) Then the World Wide Web happened and made things easier, although even now a lot of the lyrics available are kind of dubious. That's why albums still come with a booklet (even on iTunes) with everything printed officially for everyone to read, and the Adam Lambert Fan Club gave away a booklet with the bonus tracks as a members special... Here is a related funny commercial that is currently being shown in the movie theaters in British Columbia.In short, anyone who really really wants to find the actual lyrics has a lot of ways to do so. And thanks to Ozzy Osbourne, "crazy train" is part of the popular culture even for non-native speakers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 11:51:03 GMT -5
Yeah, "get a load" just means, "Hey, pay attention to this." As in "Hey, get a load of that car!" Or you might say it about something someone said, as in, "Would you get a load of that?"Usually said sarcastically, as if the person had a lot of "B.S. in their bag." "Get loaded," on the other hand, means to get drunk. Love when you explain words/phrases. You good girl! I LOVE words.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 11:54:30 GMT -5
Ha, ha! Bo, bo I don't know what you think "get a load of me" means, but I am imagining! What it actually means is just "wait until you see me because you ain't seen nothing like me yet!" Miachihu, I guess international fans will be thinking 'thingses" is now a correct plural!! Thanks mys*&@^#r! I will not explain what I thought "get a load of me" means! OMG :-[ No need to explain!
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Post by tigerlily on Apr 3, 2012 11:57:20 GMT -5
I think I figured out what is at the root of my anxiety about the next single (besides not feeling it's hook, or enough Adam, or that it doesn't rank anywhere near the top of the polls I've seen, yada yada). Bottom line: I trust ADAM. Nobody else! It pains me to think that RCA could be making a decision that may goes against HIS instincts. This is his baby, and although they are the ones with the experience and investment, what they base their decision on is not necessarily what Adam would. It's like XFactor last season -- sure, the judges were "experts" in the field but it seemed so obvious that they only muddled it up. I shutter to think if Adam had been on that show instead of Idol. Anyway, that's it. I trust Adam--I am uncomfortable with others having a hand in it, who although are on his side, are still, NOT ADAM. Adam is with a major record label who is investing millions of dollars of their own money in Adam's success. Adam can have a say in things, but he will NEVER be allowed to make all the decisions! Even Lady Gaga doesn't make all her decisions. During the era of her first album(s), which sold twenty bazillion copies and fifty bazillion single downloads, Gaga had to fund her own single and video when she wanted a different one from the label. (Alejandro) That choice also was the poorest performing single from The Fame/Monster marked the end of her singles released from that album. Right now, the label has worldwide album sales to think about. Adam doesn't get to pick his next single, no more than any other artist signed to a major label deal, gets to pick their own single. I guess Adam could cough up a million of his personal money to fund a single HE believes in, but he will only be allowed to do this near the end of the album cycle. That, or he could sign with an Indie label next era and he might have more control that way. At this point, I think Adam wants the hits and the awards shows and recognition too much to go for some Indie career where he sells 100K and sings in small venues or has a career of opening for others. Artists, who are signed to major labels, don't get to make major decisions. The artists have limited input, but at the end of the day- its the record label's money and they make the decisions. It's this way for everyone!
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Post by nica575 on Apr 3, 2012 12:01:21 GMT -5
From twitter - >:( Energy 103.7, San Diego just confirmed there is no video of Adam's performance last Friday. TRULY A SHAME, because his MIC-LESS vocals were impeccable - so strong and powerful (the acoustics in the theatre were incredible). His body played the drums, hands and feet stomping the beats. Such awesomeness I wish you all could have seen. :-( F*ing TRAVESTY!!!!!!
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Post by nica575 on Apr 3, 2012 12:02:53 GMT -5
I think I figured out what is at the root of my anxiety about the next single (besides not feeling it's hook, or enough Adam, or that it doesn't rank anywhere near the top of the polls I've seen, yada yada). Bottom line: I trust ADAM. Nobody else! It pains me to think that RCA could be making a decision that may goes against HIS instincts. This is his baby, and although they are the ones with the experience and investment, what they base their decision on is not necessarily what Adam would. It's like XFactor last season -- sure, the judges were "experts" in the field but it seemed so obvious that they only muddled it up. I shutter to think if Adam had been on that show instead of Idol. Anyway, that's it. I trust Adam--I am uncomfortable with others having a hand in it, who although are on his side, are still, NOT ADAM. Adam is with a major record label who is investing millions of dollars of their own money in Adam's success. Adam can have a say in things, but he will NEVER be allowed to make all the decisions! Even Lady Gaga doesn't make all her decisions. During the era of her first album(s), which sold twenty bazillion copies and fifty bazillion single downloads, Gaga had to fund her own single and video when she wanted a different one from the label. (Alejandro) That choice also was the poorest performing single from The Fame/Monster marked the end of her singles released from that album. Right now, the label has worldwide album sales to think about. Adam doesn't get to pick his next single, no more than any other artist signed to a major label deal, gets to pick their own single. I guess Adam could cough up a million of his personal money to fund a single HE believes in, but he will only be allowed to do this near the end of the album cycle. That, or he could sign with an Indie label next era and he might have more control that way. At this point, I think Adam wants the hits and the awards shows and recognition too much to go for some Indie career where he sells 100K and sings in small venues or has a career of opening for others. Artists, who are signed to major labels, don't get to make major decisions. They have limited input, but at the end of the day- its the record labels money and they make the decisions! It's this way for everyone! ... and that's how we got BTIKM....
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