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Post by nica575 on Apr 11, 2012 23:25:21 GMT -5
I agree about the Adam Bruno connection and the mutual respect they seem to have for one another. I have seen some crazy glamberts on the you tubes of NCOE who write comments like " Adam
can sing rings around Bruno". This goes against everything we should haver learned from following Adam, and i hate when I see that kind of shit. Adam had Bruno trust his talent to make this song a hit, and now we need to be in alliance with the hooligans to push this song. ..and that't the truth... |
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Post by isitjustme on Apr 11, 2012 23:26:31 GMT -5
Did did I miss a discussion about this ... Charity:Water now says there are 79 days left to donate. I thought the deadline was sooner. Hopefully with this much time left, we might actually get to the goal.
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Post by adamfanem on Apr 11, 2012 23:31:13 GMT -5
mys*&@^#r, didn't Adam do the KISS LA thing one year and they still never added IIHY? Maybe I'm wrong. Great about all the radio concerts though. No, they didn't, but they spun WWFM while they were doing pre-concert publicity. (They didn't before then, though it was added right away.) The radio concerts are what I'm feeling most reassured about. My biggest dread with NCOE has been that radio would push them into that decision and end up balking and not spinning. I hope to hell that will not happen and they'll spin like crazy. If that's the case, I'll be all over it. No, NCOE is not my favorite, but it's stuck in my head A LOT and I truly like the song very much. I might end up loving it when I hear full version and he performs it live. There is someone I follow on twitter who is convinced that going with NCOE is throwing down the gauntlet with radio. If they cop out on this, we know it's personal. I believe this. I'm so glad that once the album is released, people will be able to download everything. I really do hope this is the last time he has to sublimate his own creative work as a means to and end. And whoever said upthread that Bruno's career started with collaborations had a great point. Thank you.  Okay, I'm done. From here on in, I will stan this song like a bitch. (But if radio fucks him over again, I fear for my actions ...) Congrats, maitospf!!!! THIS!!!  |
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Post by aloha on Apr 11, 2012 23:32:03 GMT -5
I agree about the Adam Bruno connection and the mutual respect they seem to have for one another. I have seen some crazy glamberts on the you tubes of NCOE who write comments like " Adam
can sing rings around Bruno". This goes against everything we should haver learned from following Adam, and i hate when I see that kind of shit. Adam had Bruno trust his talent to make this song a hit, and now we need to be in alliance with the hooligans to push this song. ..and that't the truth... Yes. He needs this to smash and we have to help. The stronger our alliance is for this, the better chance Adam will have of releasing his own songs soon after! May the force be with us. Bam. |
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Post by rihannsu on Apr 11, 2012 23:32:41 GMT -5
Did did I miss a discussion about this ... Charity:Water now says there are 79 days left to donate. I thought the deadline was sooner. Hopefully with this much time left, we might actually get to the goal. I've been thinking that maybe since he was also asking fans to donate their birthdays and not just hit his stated goal that maybe they will just keep extending the time. They are only set up to do 90 days on a project so if they want to go longer they have to keep updating the end date. Or it could be they want to keep it open at least until the album drop. |
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Post by tigerlily on Apr 11, 2012 23:39:52 GMT -5
Probably the same way that Kelly Clarkson feels, and lots of other artists, who don't get the singles they co-wrote on released to radio. Of course, Kelly has now sold about 4 million copies(just in the US) of her first two singles and her album (that has been out for five months) just sold 33,000 copies this past week and is on its way to being platinum! I doubt she is crying in a corner about the fact that most of her big hits haven't been co-writes, but those songs written by others have kept her relevant and on the Worldwide charts for a DECADE now!  Kelly Clarkson is just fine and I'm sure Adam can learn to live with the same situation that many successful artists over the years have had to live with. Adam made five million dollars in 2011, he is probably okay with that!  Wow. If he didn't care, why do you think he's been busting his ass and laying his career on the line wanting to co-write and collaborate all this time? He could have kicked back and done nothing but breeze in and sing the hell out of any song if that was the case and would have released his album last spring. He could have sung a bunch of factory hits and had two albums by now and a ton of money from touring. He just said today it wasn't about the money. He has structured this entire album as autobiographical. He's said it repeatedly. It is his heart and soul. It is his baby. Of course there are pop stars that can make bazillions by not singing their own songs (Britney? Rihanna?) But Adam has made it very clear that is not his aspiration. He takes his songwriting very seriously and has worked his ass off for more than a year to create this album from his core. He has fought for this and risked everything. Yes, I most definitely think he cares that HIS songs are recognized. I didn't say any of this. Way to put words in my mouth. Whatever... NCOE is the new single. It is the one the PDs wanted. The label and the PDs didn't want Cuckoo. That's the way it is. |
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Post by bullsfan on Apr 11, 2012 23:41:27 GMT -5
I agree that Adam wants his songs recognized, but he may not be looking at radio to do that. Everybody seems to love Trespassing, but there was an almost universal feeling that it was "different" and might not fit CHR. Certainly Adam was aware of this when he recorded it and put on the CD. He knows pop radio. Even if it never becomes a single, Adam will get opportunities to perform it live and have it be heard. (of course, I am still hoping it has a chance) Same thing for a song like Shady, which Adam is clearly so proud of, but is most likely not in the running to be a single.
I love what Adam has written so far (including FYE), but he doesn't typically write songs that scream out to me "radio hit." He writes songs like Trespassing, Voodoo, DTRH, Shady, etc. His songs are awesome, but they are going to maybe need a vehicle other than radio to be heard and appreciated.
Most of all, I think Adam wants to be able to continue making music on a major label. This requires radio hits/sales. And I think Adam is perfectly comfortable singing whatever it takes to achieve this.
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Post by kapsiz on Apr 11, 2012 23:45:05 GMT -5
I was thinking about the whole single/radio thing as I was driving home through horrible traffic (and btw there's nothing like seeing the aftermath of a terrible collision to put fandom wank in perspective...) Anyway, I feel like Adam really, REALLY wants radio success. Like, seriously, I think it's his #1, all-consuming goal right now. [/color] The way they're handling this era is so different-- a lot of transparency in how much they're playing his songs for radio decision-makers, an insane radio promo tour, a bunch of radio concerts. They're really putting in a lot of work for hopefully a big payoff. I was also thinking that they had NCOE slated as the breakthrough single a long time ago. I can't remember the timeline of NCOE mentions, but it's been a topic for a long while. Maybe it took some time to get everything in place and get it right. Which kind of makes me wonder-- if they knew NCOE was going to be the big song with a big push, but it wasn't going to be ready in time, maybe they picked BTIKM as sort of a placeholder/filler song in the meantime? Otherwise why not just release NCOE right off? This way Adam gets a song out there, gets some spins, has something to play on the promo tour, and lays the groundwork for NCOE and the real push. Which takes me back to the idea that Adam is determined to do anything it takes to get that big radio hit, and I'll bet he (and the label of course) is totally counting on the Bruno connection to help with that. I think it's a really sound strategy, and I'm super excited to see how it all works out.  [/quote] THIS^^^ .. THE BIG PICTURE THAT ADAM WANTS Adam knows he has the voice and the talent, though he's not going to brag about it. It frustating to him that he keeps on hiting THE WALL. If this is what it takes for him to reach his goal, he will do it. I remembered Barry Weiss said that Adam wants to make it in this business and he's willing and prepare to work hard and do what it takes to success. [/quote] |
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Post by NoAngel on Apr 11, 2012 23:46:24 GMT -5
Probably the same way that Kelly Clarkson feels, and lots of other artists, who don't get the singles they co-wrote on released to radio. Of course, Kelly has now sold about 4 million copies(just in the US) of her first two singles and her album (that has been out for five months) just sold 33,000 copies this past week and is on its way to being platinum! I doubt she is crying in a corner about the fact that most of her big hits haven't been co-writes, but those songs written by others have kept her relevant and on the Worldwide charts for a DECADE now! Kelly Clarkson is just fine and I'm sure Adam can learn to live with the same situation that many successful artists over the years have had to live with. Adam made five million dollars in 2011, he is probably okay with that! Wow. If he didn't care, why do you think he's been busting his ass and laying his career on the line wanting to co-write and collaborate all this time? He could have kicked back and done nothing but breeze in and sing the hell out of any song if that was the case and would have released his album last spring. He could have sung a bunch of factory hits and had two albums by now and a ton of money from touring. He just said today it wasn't about the money. He has structured this entire album as autobiographical. He's said it repeatedly. It is his heart and soul. It is his baby. Of course there are pop stars that can make bazillions by not singing their own songs (Britney? Rihanna?) But Adam has made it very clear that is not his aspiration. He takes his songwriting very seriously and has worked his ass off for more than a year to create this album from his core. He has fought for this and risked everything. Yes, I most definitely think he cares that HIS songs are recognized. I agree. And/but... Going back to my point from earlier, Adam wants a radio hit. Badly. Because a radio hit will sell more of his albums and get more people to hear ALL his songs and sell concert tickets and let him play in bigger venues and get him gigs on award shows and and and etc. A big radio hit is his passport to greater power and visibility. It will open more doors for him and it will take him to the next level. Yes, his co-writes are his babies, but he is the exec producer of the album as a whole and he loves all these songs, I firmly believe. But more importantly he's thinking strategically and with the big picture in mind. JMHO YMMV of course |
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Post by SusieFierce on Apr 11, 2012 23:47:16 GMT -5
Wow. If he didn't care, why do you think he's been busting his ass and laying his career on the line wanting to co-write and collaborate all this time? He could have kicked back and done nothing but breeze in and sing the hell out of any song if that was the case and would have released his album last spring. He could have sung a bunch of factory hits and had two albums by now and a ton of money from touring. He just said today it wasn't about the money. He has structured this entire album as autobiographical. He's said it repeatedly. It is his heart and soul. It is his baby. Of course there are pop stars that can make bazillions by not singing their own songs (Britney? Rihanna?) But Adam has made it very clear that is not his aspiration. He takes his songwriting very seriously and has worked his ass off for more than a year to create this album from his core. He has fought for this and risked everything. Yes, I most definitely think he cares that HIS songs are recognized. I didn't say any of this. Way to put words in my mouth. Whatever... NCOE is the new single. It is the one the PDs wanted. The label and the PDs didn't want Cuckoo. That's the way it is. Maybe I misinterpreted this, but if so, what exactly did you mean then? And for all we know, The PDs *genuflects in their general direction and kneels to kiss their rings* could have been weighted 53-47 or even narrower of a margin. But thanks for deigning that "The label and PDs didn't want Cuckoo and that's the way it is." |
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