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Post by noreaster on Apr 25, 2012 12:55:59 GMT -5
I will admit that, as a rock fan, the fact that Adam didn't want to go that way is a tiny, quite selfish personal disappointment. Yes, I get that it would have been career suicide since all of the money is in Pop. What's even more important is that Adam is doing the music he really loves, so that's all to the good. But...but...but. There hasn't been a rock vocalist of any note since AXL ROSE, for pity's sake. Someone who has that ability to power wail, hit that crazy range, go balls to the wall, and OWN THE MOMENT. So when I hear something like NL or IIHY...sigh. Yes, he sings it beautifully, but it's like driving your Lamborghini to the Chuck 'E Cheese in a 25 mph zone. You'll get there, but oh, the lost potential... Then the Queen gig came along and reminded me of what Adam can do that so few can. I can live for YEARS on the EMA performance alone. I am just so, so hoping that someone will release a CD of those concerts. Please, oh please, oh please... Ahem. Sorry. Got carried away. Carry on. P.S. Fortunately, funk is almost as good. Shady makes me sooooo happy. P.S.S. Article from 2008 that says much of what I did, but much better...clearly, she hadn't heard AFL yet. www.spin.com/#blog/where-have-all-great-rock-singers-gone |
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Post by luzrnaz on Apr 25, 2012 12:57:13 GMT -5
The question of "why is Adam's talent under appreciated?" is an interesting question. I do not think it is completely true. I think that talent-based fame takes time to build. ETA one more thought: I think for many music writers, the say things like under appreciated when they mean, "Why didn't he sell more music?" --- The question and the responses in the thread triggered a few thoughts -- just based on my own observations. ---- I think the Idol path (which was Adam's only realistic path to a major label contract) is his biggest challenge. It makes him "uncool" to some people (my 22-year old son and his friends). At the same time, much of the Idol audience has conservative music taste and seems to skew toward Country and traditional pop-rock music. Adam is "too edgy-gay-non-Christian-etc." for many Idol fans. My hope is that since Idol is 3 years ago, Adam can start to be judged (and appreciated) independently of being on a "cheesy talent show". (Cheesy used in a loving way because this show gave us Adam Lambert.) ---- The second challenge is where are all the Divos? Pop soloists seem to be either male "heartthrobs" or female "divas" or "party thugs". Bruno and Bieber are heartthrobs, Pittbull and Chris Brown are party thugs. Adam is on a unique path. Newness can be difficult to accept particularly by the surprisingly conservative music industry and gay establishment. ---- Most male solo artists have fanbases dominated by women -- not just Adam. Many bands have audiences dominated by men. Was the the same way in the 1940's with Frank Sinatra and Glenn Miller. Ever been to a Justin Bieber concert? Or to a George Michael concert when he was in his prime? Or to a Bowie concert in the 1970's. Girls-girls-girls. The big exception seems to be female pop and dance divas -- their audiences always seems to include a large percentage of gay men. Setting aside the divas, I wonder if this has more to do with gender preferences rather than sexual orientation? I have been to a lot of Adam concerts -- most audiences has a lot of clearly gay Adam fans (from older couples to the packs of young men in leather in NY, NoLa and Knoxville) -- my only exceptions were for GNT Tunica, Mississippi and Las Vegas, Nevada. (These were both destination concerts in gambling areas and a bit different.) I am sure there were other concerts with not so many gay fans but Adam has a lot of gay fans. I saw them at concert after concert. ----- What Adam seems to have lacked is support from the gay media and from the music press -- but that is changing too. ----- I am convinced that many (not all) of the hateful comments posted on gay sites during Idol were not posted by gay men by posted by haters disguised as digital gay men. ---- Finally, there is no "gay community". The term is used a lot but it does not exist. This is a diverse group of people with little in common except for sexual orientation. There is not universal agreement on Gay Marriage within the gay community -- so is it reasonable to think there would be any agree on music, fashion/style, attitudes, etc. This Is The Perfect Post. Adam is in it for the long haul. He is driven and will find his way. He has already reinvented himself once and I think he will do whatever it takes to get the success or satisfaction he desires. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 12:58:03 GMT -5
www.nwherald.com/2012/04/25/preview-adam-lamberts-new-album-trespassing/aemuyen/#.T5gs0-YL3p1.twitterPreview Adam Lambert's new album, ‘Trespassing’Shady’ sounds like Maroon 5 with more edge, while ‘Kickin’ In’ is an ode to a night out — and the booze and questionable decisions that comes with it. While ‘Naked Love’ has sexy lyrics, it’s still pure radio-friendly pop with a soaring chorus and head-bopping beat. ‘Pop That Lock’ is a dance floor anthem that may have other metaphorical meanings behind the whole “lock and key” theme, if you know what we mean. ‘Broken English’ and ‘Underneath’ slow it down a bit, but Lambert’s powerful vocals let the respective midtempo and slow ballads retain their energy. ‘Chokehold’ “brings it on back” to the edgier feel of the rest of the album. ‘Outlaws of Love’ closes out ‘Trespassing’ on a slower but still compelling note. MORE Shady sounds like Maroon 5?? mmmmmmmm NO No way in hell does Shady sound like Maroon 5! WTF! ??? |
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Post by kathleenpf on Apr 25, 2012 12:59:54 GMT -5
www.nwherald.com/2012/04/25/preview-adam-lamberts-new-album-trespassing/aemuyen/#.T5gs0-YL3p1.twitterPreview Adam Lambert's new album, ‘Trespassing’Shady’ sounds like Maroon 5 with more edge, while ‘Kickin’ In’ is an ode to a night out — and the booze and questionable decisions that comes with it. While ‘Naked Love’ has sexy lyrics, it’s still pure radio-friendly pop with a soaring chorus and head-bopping beat. ‘Pop That Lock’ is a dance floor anthem that may have other metaphorical meanings behind the whole “lock and key” theme, if you know what we mean. ‘Broken English’ and ‘Underneath’ slow it down a bit, but Lambert’s powerful vocals let the respective midtempo and slow ballads retain their energy. ‘Chokehold’ “brings it on back” to the edgier feel of the rest of the album. ‘Outlaws of Love’ closes out ‘Trespassing’ on a slower but still compelling note. MORE Shady sounds like Maroon 5?? mmmmmmmm NO No way in hell does Shady sound like Maroon 5! WTF! ??? Totally WTF but it's a really good write up so I won't complain too loudly ;D. |
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Post by gelly14 on Apr 25, 2012 13:00:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 13:01:56 GMT -5
I'm with Koshka SusieFierce and lifetraveler about this article. So many wrong things about this article. She's projecting her own desires to Adam. What I continue to find interesting is that most people seem to feel the need to comment/criticize or over-the-top praise Adam. Yes, he is both a hoopla and click magnet, but he continues to be polarizing. Adam is by his own definition not bland or mainstream;even trying to make it big in the fickle world of pop, he produces a genre-bending, high quality album. It seems that many people are so uncomfortable with a man that does not fit familiar labels, and yet if Adam did, we would hear things like, he's very like X, but with a better voice, or he is a watered down Y, or he is like X meets Y--which we already do read and hear. And we all know that if he were to meet each of the critics' needs once, the next time he would be labelled as derivative or a one-trick "every song sounds the same" pony. I rejoice every day that Adam is Adam, in all of his complexity. Why can't folks just accept him (and for that matter everyone else) for what they are? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 13:04:36 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks of "pop that lock" as a dance term? :-[ I keep seeing metaphorical this and that and keys and ....
Or is the pomegranate all over again?
I finally have an Adam story! Last weekend I went to a tourist town to shop for some clothes for burning man. (Tombstone, gun fight at OK corral and all that) There was an older man busking and I asked him to play "Whiskey River", only country song I could think of. It seemed to please him that I asked for an old song and we struck up a conversation. He was disgruntled at current country music, Taylor Swift anyone, I agreed and mentioned on the pop scene that currently only Adele and Adam could really sang. He really came alive at the mention of Adam and even knew a couple of songs. Who would of thought that an ole Texas country boy who used to play in Texas honky-tonks would know ADAM!
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Post by durberville on Apr 25, 2012 13:13:41 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks of "pop that lock" as a dance term? :-[ I keep seeing metaphorical this and that and keys and .... Or is the pomegranate all over again? I finally have an Adam story! Last weekend I went to a tourist town to shop for some clothes for burning man. (Tombstone, gun fight at OK corral and all that) There was an older man busking and I asked him to play "Whiskey River", only country song I could think of. It seemed to please him that I asked for an old song and we struck up a conversation. He was disgruntled at current country music, Taylor Swift anyone, I agreed and mentioned on the pop scene that currently only Adele and Adam could really sang. He really came alive at the mention of Adam and even knew a couple of songs. Who would of thought that an ole Texas country boy who used to play in Texas honky-tonks would know ADAM! Over here *waves. The first and only thing I thought of with Pop That Lock was the dancing term/move whatever. Then again, I'm not one to analyze ANY lyrics....don't give a crap actually. Haha! I'm shallow (as we've already determined) and all I care about is if I like dancing or just listening to the song. Can't scroll fast enough on twitter (or here, sorry  ) when lyrics are hashed out and rehashed ad infinitum. As Adam says, sometimes a pomegranate is just a fucking pomegranate. ;D |
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Post by gelly14 on Apr 25, 2012 13:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by luzrnaz on Apr 25, 2012 13:18:44 GMT -5
Adam is firmly in the "gay second" category. By that I mean he tries not to let his life revolve around it, and I'm the same. It's the mindset of "it's just a sexuality". There's a lot of gay guys who are "gay first" though, spend their life shouting loud and proud that they're gay from the rooftops, campaigning for rights, hitting back at homophobes and very conservative people for example. That's fine but people like me and Adam don't get too deep into it. Sure he made the It Gets Better video and Outlaws of Love but for the main part he just puts it on the side and leaves it to other people, because he's happy in his own sexuality, believes that in the grand scheme of things sexuality doesn't even matter that much, and prefers to just stick to the music. Sadly lots of the "gay first" people don't like that kind of attitude, they see it as a "betrayal" of sorts. Quite sad really :( this is sort of what i meant when i said i was a bit surprised adam responded the way he did considering he advocates post gay. (Adam basically agreeing the "community" is resistant.) Do you see an age correlation to gay 1 and gay 2? and speaking of male pop idols. i thought there was a lot of love for george michael and ricky martin. yes, they were closeted during their peak, but didn't they have a decent following in the "gay community" |
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) when lyrics are hashed out and rehashed ad infinitum. As Adam says, sometimes a pomegranate is just a fucking pomegranate. ;D