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Post by rihannsu on May 1, 2012 20:41:14 GMT -5
mys*&@^#r, hope you don't mind if I ask if you would have a different reaction if a non-gay male performer, for example Chris Brown, were to call his backup singers "The Vajajays"? I'm curious whether the fact that Adam is gay has any impact on your feeling about the use of the term. Haven't read the whole thread yet, so I'll respond as I go along. First, I am personally offended by everything Chris Brown says and does but that is because I perceive him as thug. And as a thug that is being rewarded for being a thug. But if I could use a different person, say Steven Tyler, then "No" I would not be offended in the least. I just don't see "vajayjay" as offensive. Exactly, context, history, frame of reference. Using this particular example everything I know of Adam shows that he is a loving, supportive, nurturing being. Everything I know of Chris Brown shows him to be a misogynistic, violent and homophobic being. The way I interpret their words is through the lens of my impressions of them. The meaning of a word is influenced by the context in which it is used and so the offensiveness of a word is also influenced by the context surrounding it. Meanings change all the time. Early on in Adam fandom there was a very interesting similar discussion revolving around Adam's use of the word Twat. When he so cleverly referred to lame tweets as twats some people took offense much in the same way that some are now offended by vajayjay. Where I grew up twat was either a descriptive term for vagina or an offensive term used in place of cunt. If you referred to the persons twat that was no big deal but if you called someone a twat that was obviously meant to be offensive. Same word could be both accepted and consider vulgar depending on the usage. Not long after Adam used the term I there were plenty of others who used it with the same intention he did. I don't know if he in fact originated it or if he heard it from someone else but I've often come across tweets being called twats since then and never ran in to any more opposition to it.
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Post by kanadie on May 1, 2012 20:41:50 GMT -5
It just ain't that deep!
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Post by amw on May 1, 2012 20:44:21 GMT -5
Ok, now that the bunch of Broken English has come up, is anyone else as in love with this song as I am? Gods, it is so fucking sexy! That voice, the voice, oh the voice...... And whatever the his beautiful bold back up singers want to be called, well I hope they claim it for themselves. Glamberts are seriously opinionated, so by now via twitter, these girls and Adam must be aware of the vjj buzz that has started. I'm so in love with BE I want to marry it. Especially the bridge. Talking about differences, that very same bridge has created at least four subgroups: some think it resembles ROF/ some think it's more like FS WWL/ some hate it/ some love it and don't care what it resembles OMG. The bridge. I want a clean audio of this! I don't think any of us really know what that is until we hear the album and see it live for ourselves, after he has refined it a bit. Oh, it sent shivers. And I am a deep fan of RoF, the FS WLL, DTRH...
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Post by Catzmadam on May 1, 2012 20:45:11 GMT -5
On a less serious note , the NZGlitterTribe are excite @yellowsistabert I just caught it. Sarah said they're trying to organise an early listen to the album because Adam's so popular here in NZ. @pollyzm OMFG @zmonline I NEED to be at Album preveiw!!!!!!!! I will do ANYTHING!!!!! (Well almost anything) OMG New Zealand Glamberts #NZGlitterTribe!!! @zmonline are going to organize a TRESPASSING LISTENING PARTY!!!! BEST RADIO STATION @yellowsistabert: I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT IMMA RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES COS @zmonline ARE GONNA HAVE A #TRESPASSING LISTENING PARTY \O/ RT @yellowsistabert: @sarahontheradio @zmonline LOL Haveyou any idea what you have just done to the NZ Glamberts??? #CRACKED #CUCKOO #WERKBITCH #NZGlitterTribe RT nzstiffy: #NZGlitterTribeLoveZM @zmonline you guys totally ROCK!!!!
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Post by amw on May 1, 2012 20:46:08 GMT -5
Kanadie........lol....one of my most favorite Adam moments right there.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 20:46:43 GMT -5
So...how 'bout that penis!
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Post by wal on May 1, 2012 20:48:25 GMT -5
mmyy9 @mmyy9 Adam Lambert GNT soundcheck, etc. Las Vegas July 31, 2010 (uploaded on May 1, 2012 by windycitylover) youtu.be/keodDMX6ml0Published on May 1, 2012 by windycitylover July 31, 2010. I did some video recording of Adam and his dancers during soundcheck. It's a little shakey because I recorded through the fence. Sorry...I could barely contain myself singing with Fever, and somewhat shouting to Adam. Also included is just the beginning of Voodoo during the concert, which was halted by a security guy who pulled my camcorder down from my face and threatened me. That is also in this video, but you only hear the encounter and music. I did/do not know how to edit so there is a very short clip, still in Vegas, of some girl dancing in lingerie at the end? Lol!
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Post by jamie on May 1, 2012 20:49:15 GMT -5
Ok, now that the bunch of Broken English has come up, is anyone else as in love with this song as I am?Gods, it is so fucking sexy! That voice, the voice, oh the voice...... Wal posted another BE vid at the end of the Kimmel thread and !:40-1:50 is a good crowd shot. To keep with today's theme... it looks like there are a as many penises in the crow as vaginas
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Post by cheriemelissa on May 1, 2012 20:50:26 GMT -5
Sorry, but if I can wade through pages and pages of for example, 'bull semen' discussion because it was of interest to others, then others surely can scroll through the odd GB flaily thread. It did cross my mind to suggest another thread for the naughty bits, but then I remembered that there have always been 'apple pie' days here that were enjoyed with much fun and hilarity by many, although sadly they have become less and less as I suspect members try and curb their GB posts in an attempt to not offend those that don't like it. To have to post what some members thoroughly enjoy elsewhere to another thread, to me feels like we are being reprimanded, smacked on the wrist and being told that we are doing something wrong. A form of censorship if you will. I would really, really hate to see Atop become that PC. The FREEDOM to post what you wanted to and have fun with it, is what originally attracted me to PF and then Atop. All in MVHO of course I totally agree! THANKYOU!!!!!!
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Post by cayman on May 1, 2012 20:50:44 GMT -5
Laughing so hard right now........my six yr old granddaughter called to tell me she was sent to her room unfairly. She had a fight with her brother who had part of his backpack on her side of the backseat on the way home from daycare. Fight resulted in both going to their rooms. Korah called me to say "I just want to live in a fair world." I emailed her this picture but...............I LOVE KANADIES APPROACH WAY BETTERER ;D
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