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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 8:58:09 GMT -5
Actually I completely understand where tigerlily is coming from. In organizational psychology this type of bias is called "the romance of leadership" - this idea that when a team does very well or very badly we as humans tend to over-estimate the impact of the team's leader on the team's performance (e.g. if a sports team is on a losing streak, the coach or the QB take most of the blame, even though there are very complex team dynamics going on that might have caused it). That is not to say the leader - in this case Adam - is very important, because he IS of course. But IMO Cassie over-stated the importance that Adam has on his band's performance. These are still very talented musicians; not even Adam wouldn't be able to create an amazing performance if these people were not really talented in their own right. That's why selection is so important. That being said, of course Adam is the glue that holds everything together and takes it to the next level. I think it's so exciting that Adam can now collaborate with some of the best. Leadership is hard to define but a key element is making those you lead want to do their best for you. ALL the pieces of the puzzle have to mesh and blend. Adam does a great job of creating "families" that have each others back and want each one together and individually to excel and advance. If I were to be asked, I'd say the process includes all aspects of what is being discussed here this a.m. It's all very exciting, isn't it?! And AME -- don't let one chastisement take you away from all of us. Sometimes the written word comes off more strongly then what is really intended. |
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Post by wal on May 1, 2012 8:58:15 GMT -5
Nile just tweeted this again, Nile Rodgers @nilerodgers VIDEO/PHOTOS: Behind-the-Scenes with @adamlambert bit.ly/JBavAA |
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Post by cassie on May 1, 2012 8:59:04 GMT -5
I completely disagree with the part in bold One would expect that any LA professional would be technically proficient, dedicated to their craft, and skilled or they wouldn't still working in LA. Competition is FIERCE and I assume that anyone who is actually making a long-term career as a paid singer there is extremely talented. Its a given. Nothing dismissive in the slightest. However, the alchemy involved in bringing something from technically proficient to transcendent is different, and involves not only the folk in the back, but the leader out front. Think in the difference in live television performances when Lisa (the original keyboardist) was playing for Adam versus Ke$ha. Lisa is a fantastic musician (and IMO probably the best 'classic' player he's had - incredibly skilled pianist). But the difference in the two overall PERFORMANCES had to do with Adam and Ke$ha. There is absolutely no denying Lisa's skills. But she, herself, does not "make" a performance. She can potentially break it by performing badly, but as a supporting person cannot not "make" it. The person who does the final assembly and takes on the ultimate responsibility of bringing all the skilled pieces together to create the holistic whole is the one who "makes" a performance. And in an Adam Lambert performance, that person/leader is Adam Lambert. from a classical music lover perspective: Adam is the conductor of his orchestra. He IS the MAKER of the orchestra. Each member needs to be a master of their particular skill, but conductor is what makes an orchestra performance great or not so much. .. and boy he conducts! he conducts the sound techs, the ear monitors techs, the light people, and of course the musicians...we see that ALL THE TIME! I am sure he conducts many other people behind the scenes as well ... aka #HBIC Exactly what I was thinking about, nica. I have played in orchestras and sung in choirs where we were originally rehearsed by a totally competent conductor. Then, the guest conductor arrived and started to work wth us and blew us away, taking us to heights we hadn't imagined. Same music, same personnel, just a different conductor. Thanks for the analogy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 9:03:37 GMT -5
I want to quote cassie's post from Pg one but my phone won't let me. Cassie, I agree 100%. I have absolutely NO doubt that Adam is the boss and what we see and hear in performances is 100% his decision. Yes, he collaborates and has expert Glamily members. But he has said he is a control freak. We also know he has a creative vision for every song, way back when they were choosing the songs. I think the green tornado is a perfect example of Adam's vision.
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Post by aprilmarie816 on May 1, 2012 9:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by FanOfTheMan on May 1, 2012 9:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by tigerlily on May 1, 2012 9:11:30 GMT -5
...there are a ton of other VERY talented musicians, singers and arrangers involved in these performances. The background singers sound good because they are professionals who have had years upon years of training and also had experience singing for and touring with a Grammy winning artist. Adam is great at what he does, but he didn't walk in and suddenly make these two women, who have countless years of experience, "sound good". That seems dismissive to these two talented vocalists. I completely disagree with the part in bold One would expect that any LA professional would be technically proficient, dedicated to their craft, and skilled or they wouldn't still working in LA. Competition is FIERCE and I assume that anyone who is actually making a long-term career as a paid singer there is extremely talented. Its a given. Nothing dismissive in the slightest. However, the alchemy involved in bringing something from technically proficient to transcendent is different, and involves not only the folk in the back, but the leader out front. Think in the difference in live television performances when Lisa (the original keyboardist) was playing for Adam versus Ke$ha. Lisa is a fantastic musician (and IMO probably the best 'classic' player he's had - incredibly skilled pianist). But the difference in the two overall PERFORMANCES had to do with Adam and Ke$ha. There is absolutely no denying Lisa's skills. But she, herself, does not "make" a performance. She can potentially break it by performing badly, but as a supporting person cannot not "make" it. The person who does the final assembly and takes on the ultimate responsibility of bringing all the skilled pieces together to create the holistic whole is the one who "makes" a performance. And in an Adam Lambert performance, that person/leader is Adam Lambert. There is a difference in giving Adam all the credit for certain things (such as arranging music) and saying he is a solo artist and the band, singers, etc. work for him. Why are the background singers good? Because they came in being good. They have been in this exact environment and working with each other for years. It's not like they didn't know what they were doing, but walked into Adam's "band" for two weeks and POOF, they are NOW amazing. I'm just trying to give credit where credit is due. These two ladies sounded good because THEY are good. They are good at what they do. Sasha and Terrance were good dancers, because they are good, they are excellent dancers. (Sasha did pretty darn good on SYTYCD) Brian is a well respected musician and director because he has proven himself over the years to be excellent. |
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Post by amw on May 1, 2012 9:12:37 GMT -5
Too much Adam goodness to keep up with, and it is all so awesome. Cassie, I love your posts about the vayjayjays! They are amazing! I could not be happier about this new development. I have wanted more singers in Adam's band, but I figured it was probably as much a matter of paying them than anything else. Backing tracks are cheaper, I would guess. I love these girls though. They keep up with him and it is so great to have real voices. Adam is better than just backing tracks behind him. He needs the organic goodness of live voices on stage with him. The band sounds tight and good. Tommy joe is fleshing himself out, learning new riffs. Ashley is quite talented too.
I really love Broken English. So smooth, so sexy. And there's soaring vocals...and the lyrics....it's on repeat on my iPod thanks to Terra's dedication to the mp3.
I am ready for the tour dates now. I'm planning into September/october and I need to fit a couple of shows into my schedule this year. It's been far too long since I have seen the man live.
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Post by aprilmarie816 on May 1, 2012 9:13:14 GMT -5
Under "Pop" Adam has an banner on Canada iTunes! A friend asked me the other day what genre Trespassing was. I didn't know what to tell them :-[ I like that he doesn't fit any one place Never boring |
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