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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 18:05:32 GMT -5
I do feel like Adam's in a bad situation after all the times he promised a tour though. I mean most fans would understand but I think he'd feel really bad about it.
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Post by nica575 on Oct 21, 2012 21:00:55 GMT -5
I do feel like Adam's in a bad situation after all the times he promised a tour though. I mean most fans would understand but I think he'd feel really bad about it. apparently it is touring that makes money for the artists nowadays, so I see no reason not to tour. What will he be away from? THere is nothing going on in the US, he is not covered in any media, and unless radio picks up - you might as well take him as being away since the FYE era anyway. It is obvious that he is heavily and successfully promoted in Asia, which pays very well. They will be milking TP as much as possible for as long as possible, including a tour... and I sure hope that they do a number of concerts in the US, Canada and EU.... |
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Post by bullsfan on Oct 21, 2012 22:28:09 GMT -5
I do feel like Adam's in a bad situation after all the times he promised a tour though. I mean most fans would understand but I think he'd feel really bad about it. apparently it is touring that makes money for the artists nowadays, so I see no reason not to tour. What will he be away from? THere is nothing going on in the US, he is not covered in any media, and unless radio picks up - you might as well take him as being away since the FYE era anyway. It is obvious that he is heavily and successfully promoted in Asia, which pays very well. They will be milking TP as much as possible for as long as possible, including a tour... and I sure hope that they do a number of concerts in the US, Canada and EU.... Well, what he will be away from, IMO, is moving forward in his career. Taking the steps he needs to grow his fanbase and get the US to pay attention. In May, it will be a year since Trespassing was released---I just can't see him devoting time and energy to a year old album which is not on any radar in the US. If RCA truly views him as an artist in development, then I hope we start to see some new projects aimed at gaining him exposure in the US. Of course he could do one -offs and continue the international push at the same time. Frankly, unless Trespassing somehow comes up with a Grammy nom, I think they have milked the album about as much as they possibly can in this country. |
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Post by bullsfan on Oct 21, 2012 22:35:42 GMT -5
I do feel like Adam's in a bad situation after all the times he promised a tour though. I mean most fans would understand but I think he'd feel really bad about it. Fans need to realize that this is a fluid business. Nothing is set in stone. Evaluating and making adjustments is just smart business. Things change---we already know that he isn't going to get all the singles and videos that were initially talked about. Adam has always maintained that waiting to see how the album does is a part of the decision making process. Fans should understand this. |
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Post by nica575 on Oct 22, 2012 0:28:58 GMT -5
apparently it is touring that makes money for the artists nowadays, so I see no reason not to tour. What will he be away from? THere is nothing going on in the US, he is not covered in any media, and unless radio picks up - you might as well take him as being away since the FYE era anyway. It is obvious that he is heavily and successfully promoted in Asia, which pays very well. They will be milking TP as much as possible for as long as possible, including a tour... and I sure hope that they do a number of concerts in the US, Canada and EU.... Well, what he will be away from, IMO, is moving forward in his career. Taking the steps he needs to grow his fanbase and get the US to pay attention. In May, it will be a year since Trespassing was released---I just can't see him devoting time and energy to a year old album which is not on any radar in the US. If RCA truly views him as an artist in development, then I hope we start to see some new projects aimed at gaining him exposure in the US. Of course he could do one -offs and continue the international push at the same time. Frankly, unless Trespassing somehow comes up with a Grammy nom, I think they have milked the album about as much as they possibly can in this country. TP is an EXCELLENT album, with high critical acclaim. Nevertheless it went nowhere for no apparent reason. WHY would the next album do any better? If the US radio is not accepting him with this album, why would they behave differently the next time? How do we know there will be no more singles? I think that Adam could start working on the next album, as he seems to have significant gaps between engagements... This however should not preclude putting the money making vehicle in motion, i.e. a TP tour. Obviously, all speculation... and I think that the quote re the new album is a journalist's mistake... |
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Post by evamaria on Oct 23, 2012 10:13:22 GMT -5
TP is an EXCELLENT album, with high critical acclaim. Nevertheless it went nowhere for no apparent reason. WHY would the next album do any better? If the US radio is not accepting him with this album, why would they behave differently the next time? How do we know there will be no more singles? I think that Adam could start working on the next album, as he seems to have significant gaps between engagements... This however should not preclude putting the money making vehicle in motion, i.e. a TP tour. Obviously, all speculation... and I think that the quote re the new album is a journalist's mistake... If tsp doesn't succeed in the US, we can make an educated guess that it will be the last single here. I agree there's no guarantee a third album will do better than the second album. However, tsp is six months old now, and continuing to promote it instead of starting work on a new album seems pointless. Longer he goes without a single, longer he stays under the radar. That reduces his opportunities for getting major shows, exposure in the US. Without a vehicle, a long delay between second and third albums will make life very difficult for the third album. I'm sure there will be a tsp tour. I hope that it's not a long tour. GNT was almost eight months long. It made money, but also put him under the radar and delayed tsp. Both those factors are partly responsible for the difficulties with tsp. Imagine having tsp released summer 2011 instead of May 2012. Could have made a huge difference. |
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Post by sage on Oct 23, 2012 18:35:27 GMT -5
I do feel like Adam's in a bad situation after all the times he promised a tour though. I mean most fans would understand but I think he'd feel really bad about it. apparently it is touring that makes money for the artists nowadays, so I see no reason not to tour. What will he be away from? THere is nothing going on in the US, he is not covered in any media, and unless radio picks up - you might as well take him as being away since the FYE era anyway. It is obvious that he is heavily and successfully promoted in Asia, which pays very well. They will be milking TP as much as possible for as long as possible, including a tour... and I sure hope that they do a number of concerts in the US, Canada and EU.... Yeah....touring is where the artist makes money but, the artist has TO FRONT THE MONEY FOR THEIR OWN TOUR. Does anyone want to see Adam empty out his bank account to pacify fans? I certainly don't. There's no reason why he can't continue to do one offs here and there. But a full tour? No. Yes, he made money off the first one. And look what that got him. His second album is not selling and all of the singles have flopped. And how do we know there won't be more singles? Remember the "cover art" for Trespassing the single? We never got that. We got the Trespassing EP, that cover art, I'm guessing, was the cover art. The EP was most likely put out there to recoup some of their money. But there was no grand rollout for a new single. By all practical purposes, there are no plans for a music video. Not even a mention of one. Shoshanna has even deflected all questions about new single plans for the UK. They haven't even released TP there. The label is not pushing the "current" single. Why would they release any other singles. Adam had a lot of big plans for this album. But they haven't panned out the way he, or the fans, had hoped. He said he was planning on milking this album for at least 2 years and there would be many singles and music vids. Those statements were made long before he knew how things would turn out. The label has promoted, barely, two. They're not even bothering with the third. At this point, I just want to see Adam move on after the first of the year with a new project. If he doesn't tour and just works on the album, it probably wouldn't be out until the fall anyway. That's still over a year after the TP release. He really can't afford to wait any longer than that. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Oct 24, 2012 8:43:17 GMT -5
HaHa. We all know what he should do - what's best for his future career. Unfortunately we all have different ideas. So I'm admitting:
I HAVE NO CLUE. I'm still dumbstruck with how this era evolved. I can only rant about how it was handled by the suits. I have no idea what they should do, only what they shouldn't have done.
Hopefully the feedback from his PLL appearance will make them sit up and take notice and realize that if he's seen and heard people will come!
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Post by melliemom on Oct 24, 2012 9:05:10 GMT -5
IMHO Adam has to be seen and heard to be really appreciated.. TV ,concerts and the stage are perfect for Adam.
Love to see him on a musical TV show like Glee.
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Post by nica575 on Oct 24, 2012 9:34:15 GMT -5
IMHO Adam has to be seen and heard to be really appreciated.. TV ,concerts and the stage are perfect for Adam. Love to see him on a musical TV show like Glee. I agree. I really don't understand why would RCA invest on the next album NOW given the results. Why should the next project be received any better? I don't know what venues RCA or management can employ, but people have to see Adam ON STAGE or ON SCREEN. His live appearances that are irresistible to most. I guess the best would be touring and working on the album at the same time... I remember reading that Rihanna's machine works that way: she tours and in the meantime everyone is writing for her. Then they record on some studio bus and the next pan cake is ready for the masses to go crazy over... I am sure Adam would want to write his own songs, but may be he can do some work while touring... Also - there is obvious international push /development in progress. TO me this means that the era is far from over, the world is big... re PLL - honestly, I think the bump will be quite short lived, unless Adam continues to be "visible" as the teen attention span is not that big. ( just look at the Twitter numbers - only about 2K additional followers since the show aired - that's not impressive at all for the teens. For comparison- Biebs grows at the rate of over 40K/day day in and day out). In any case - in the end, he and RCA know better. |
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