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Post by swarm on Jun 20, 2012 15:26:14 GMT -5
swarm.....you posted a lot on Adam Lambert Fans when it first opened, correct? I think I remember your name (it's distinctive) and enjoyed your writing. Yes, thanks! I remember when the old PF site closed down and the folks temp stayed there until this site was up. I was more inclined to track the LGBT issues and didn't find a niche there and it was sorting itself out anyway. My words sound harsh sometimes but it's just my tech writing habit and being in a hurry to get out what i want to say and move on lol. The only person I know "of" here is skylarvon from her Planet Fierce video because I adore it. And I was the one who told Neil about it so he could show Leila that ended up with him being in a snit for no cowrites hahaha. The genesis of swarm was glamswarm annointed by Queerty friends when complaining about Glamberts swarming them. ;D
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 20, 2012 16:50:22 GMT -5
I don't think Adam would have any problem opening for a bigger act if the fit made sense; or co-headlining with someone. He has already played in radio concerts where he wasn't the headlining act.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 20, 2012 17:18:38 GMT -5
I don't think Adam would have any problem opening for a bigger act if the fit made sense; or co-headlining with someone. He has already played in radio concerts where he wasn't the headlining act. i do strongly doubt it. my feeling. (historically I am always right ;D)
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Post by smokeyvera on Jun 20, 2012 17:25:38 GMT -5
Wow, I finally creeped back into this thread. I was upset the other night when I posted that I went into a heart flutter. Scared the crap out of me, even though I am now on meds that is supposed to prevent this. I had to sit back and evaluate if all of this is worth being so depressed about. I guess what hit me, was that if he has 2 failed singles, there won't be a third on radio, unless RCA regroups, which I doubt. Adam is replaceable at RCA. They are looking for money makers and One Direction is big payday for Sony UK.
I worried about hearing new music from Adam and having a forum to read and post on daily. I was worried about losing all of this. I am trying to be objective, but I am a natural born worry-wort. So as one poster posted Que sera sera. There must be some universal order that is awaiting to happen, because Adam always seems to land on Top.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 20, 2012 17:47:36 GMT -5
Wow, I finally creeped back into this thread. I was upset the other night when I posted that I went into a heart flutter. Scared the crap out of me, even though I am now on meds that is supposed to prevent this. I had to sit back and evaluate if all of this is worth being so depressed about. I guess what hit me, was that if he has 2 failed singles, there won't be a third on radio, unless RCA regroups, which I doubt. Adam is replaceable at RCA. They are looking for money makers and One Direction is big payday for Sony UK. I worried about hearing new music from Adam and having a forum to read and post on daily. I was worried about losing all of this. I am trying to be objective, but I am a natural born worry-wort. So as one poster posted Que sera sera. There must be some universal order that is awaiting to happen, because Adam always seems to land on Top. stay healthy please, smokey! remember that adam is very happy right now! He is partying and riding high!!! may I recommend this? - scroll to the first post from today www.adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=inspired&action=display&thread=686&page=2
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Post by smokeyvera on Jun 20, 2012 19:28:26 GMT -5
Wow, I finally creeped back into this thread. I was upset the other night when I posted that I went into a heart flutter. Scared the crap out of me, even though I am now on meds that is supposed to prevent this. I had to sit back and evaluate if all of this is worth being so depressed about. I guess what hit me, was that if he has 2 failed singles, there won't be a third on radio, unless RCA regroups, which I doubt. Adam is replaceable at RCA. They are looking for money makers and One Direction is big payday for Sony UK. I worried about hearing new music from Adam and having a forum to read and post on daily. I was worried about losing all of this. I am trying to be objective, but I am a natural born worry-wort. So as one poster posted Que sera sera. There must be some universal order that is awaiting to happen, because Adam always seems to land on Top. stay healthy please, smokey! remember that adam is very happy right now! He is partying and riding high!!! may I recommend this? - scroll to the first post from today www.adamtopia.com/index.cgi?board=inspired&action=display&thread=686&page=2Thanx Nica. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow. So I will discuss the flutter. I don't want to be in the UK and have something happen. I just stirred myself up, stressed myself out, and caused it on my own accord. I have been trying to be very zen. But when I don't have a son and hubby that always cooperate, I go find something to do that takes my mind of it, and my heart rate calms down. I did read theo's post and I find it exceedingly fascinating. Lets hope she is right and as these 2 planets speed up, the universe as I stated in my post will open up for him. God knows he deserves it. While I wish other singsers and boy bands the best and success, I want equal success for Adam. That is all.
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Post by readon on Jun 20, 2012 21:16:02 GMT -5
Thanx Nica. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow. So I will discuss the flutter. I don't want to be in the UK and have something happen. I just stirred myself up, stressed myself out, and caused it on my own accord. I have been trying to be very zen. But when I don't have a son and hubby that always cooperate, I go find something to do that takes my mind of it, and my heart rate calms down. I did read theo's post and I find it exceedingly fascinating. Lets hope she is right and as these 2 planets speed up, the universe as I stated in my post will open up for him. God knows he deserves it. While I wish other singsers and boy bands the best and success, I want equal success for Adam. That is all. Stay healthy, smokeyv. Luv ya!!
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Post by nikki on Jun 21, 2012 5:08:13 GMT -5
I remembered posting about the situation in Australia a while ago using an Australian blog that wrote about is as proof, and someone here not only called that music blog a non-existent one, but she called me a doom and gloom poster. I am happy therefore that an Aussie glambert is doing the revealing now. Just like I said last time using that blog post as a proof, some countries watch out for what is being played on American radio to draw up their playlists. I am very sure he would be enjoying AirPlay in Aussie if he was charting here. WWFM was promoted in Aussie only after it became a hit here and they pretty much jumped on the wagon knowing he was popular in the US then.I don't personality believe the songs are the issue since the boring Kelly's first single was a no.1 hit there. It is about wanting to play artists the US tell them are the cool ones to have. Some European countries which played him first era are also doing this. His only hope of being able to chart in those countries again is if he gets a hit in the UK. Sorry, but this is just too extreme a position, as I see it. My original post on the subject of promotion (or a lack of it) was a whinge because I see the lack of promotion in Australia as a key factor at play here. My response to you is good natured, and I am ;D and simply interested in the discussion. Unfortunately for smaller countries, the cultural imperialism from the US, in particular, is very pervasive, much to my irritation also. Is is all-pervasive, and we slavishly follow every lead to the point that if Adam's songs had been a hit in the US, Australia would inevitably follow? Maybe, but maybe not. Any analysis of Australia's pop charts would tell you very quickly that we take some, but not all artists and their songs. It is not an automatic given or direct reflection. We can and do still have our own perspective on things, our own culture and our own artists to factor in to the equation, our own radio PD idiosyncrasies, politics and market/demographic factors. If we look at WWFM, it entered the Billboard chart in January 2010 around the 60 mark, and it only reached it's top 10 peak position around May. Hardly a meteoric, massive hit, that would "compel" a radio station to start spinning it here. Singles reach No.1 in the US and the UK routinely that we don't hear on our radios. I'd need to double check our mediabase, but I'm pretty sure that our radio stations did not start playing the song until Adam visited the country in March. I can't remember how closely tied this date was to the FYE album launch, but I think it was pretty close. My point is obviously that radio spins co-incided in this instance with the promotion, not a compelling position in the US charts. That particular promotional tour was very well executed from a marketing perspective. Over a few days, Adam blitzed the east coast radio stations that lead the music markets, both the mass markets and the influential LGBT programs. He was on TV singing his single on multiple occasions and had guest interviews on high rating "talk" format programs. We celebrated his performance and his spectacular codpiece at Mardi Gras. As a result of this, WWFM entered the Aria chart on 21 March, a couple of weeks after this visit. If promotion was a key factor last time, it is in play this time, in my view. And to date, in Australia, it has been very poor - a poorly researched key radio interview where they said BTIKM was the single and a few minutes on Sunrise, where they were more interested in the "Obama" angle. What no one knows about of course, is what, if anything, happened behind closed doors between Sony and the PDs that also influenced airplay, and what is happening this time. None of this is intended to negate the truth of the "follow the leader" approach you've written about and I can't speak for any other "smaller" countries you mentioned. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were subtleties there also, once the surface was scratched. In fact, the UK experience will be an exercise in seeing the "power of promotion" at play. The difference there is how to get BBC radio 1 to play his music - UK glamberts spoke about this, and other factors at length during the FYE era. On the broader issue of homophobia, that was also being discussed when I originally posted, I think there can be confusion between direct homophobia on the part of individuals such as PDs, and institutionalised homophobia (example of which are littered everywhere including in recent posts here). In the US, the evidence is overwhelming that the latter is a factor - to what degree, to me, is the only issue when it is taken into consideration with other factors that people are also posting about. Sadly, Australia is no shining light either on the social justice front. Swarm, if you are lurking, I remember you well from those places you spoke about. Welcome.
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Post by JazzRocks on Jun 21, 2012 10:38:37 GMT -5
Wow, I finally creeped back into this thread. I was upset the other night when I posted that I went into a heart flutter. Scared the crap out of me, even though I am now on meds that is supposed to prevent this. I had to sit back and evaluate if all of this is worth being so depressed about. I guess what hit me, was that if he has 2 failed singles, there won't be a third on radio, unless RCA regroups, which I doubt. Adam is replaceable at RCA. They are looking for money makers and One Direction is big payday for Sony UK. I worried about hearing new music from Adam and having a forum to read and post on daily. I was worried about losing all of this. I am trying to be objective, but I am a natural born worry-wort. So as one poster posted Que sera sera. There must be some universal order that is awaiting to happen, because Adam always seems to land on Top. I understand how you feel smokey! I too can be a worry-wort at times. It's never manifested itself physically with me so far...so I'm thankful for that. Well maybe a restless night here & there. It's a difficult time for fans right now dealing with the big disappointment of US radio not meeting our (and Adam's I'm sure) expectations. Just remember that the roller coaster goes up as well as down. Wheeeee!!!!!!!
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Post by evamaria on Jun 21, 2012 12:11:50 GMT -5
If I were rca, I'd assume Trespassing will sell little in the US, #1 opening week or not. I'd also assume that if ncoe didn't make it, then nothing else on the album will, as ncoe is almost an "I dare you not to play me," song, it's so perfect. Given that US promo isn't working, I'd push him in Europe, including Northern Europe, where he has a history of being successful, in Germany and France, huge markets both, and, above all, in the UK. I wouldn't count out any European region, including Eastern Europe. All of this is compromised, of course, by the fact that the US music market holds a cultural hegemony over the rest of the globe, including UK, France and Germany.
The best US option (if I were queen of the world) is, obviously, a collaboration after Adam gets back home. A tour would be lovely, but it would do nothing to appeal to the population at large the way a successful single would.
ADAM NEEDS A SINGLE. ANY SINGLE. That's all it comes down to.
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