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Post by bullsfan on Jun 21, 2012 12:23:59 GMT -5
Evamaria you have nailed it. Nothing can replace the importance of a hit single (doesn't have to be a smash) for a person who aspires to be a pop star. That's just it. Doesn't matter where it comes from, who wrote it, or if it "requires" a collaborator, but it needs to happen.
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Post by sage on Jun 21, 2012 13:35:37 GMT -5
On the homophobia issue, I don't think the PD's or corporate have this issue. I think some of the listeners do and radio is listening to them. One example I can give is both times Adam was on the syndicated Kidd Kraddick show, their Facebook page was filled wth hateful, homophobic posts. There were people posting that even though they were loyal listeners, they would change the channel while Adam was on. If people will do that, what's to say they don't complain to radio stations when they do play Adam? I do think the majority of people don't care but there are just enough to be vocal enough to make a stink and Adam doesn't have a large enough fan base or high enough sales to overcome it. Look what happened with the protests around JC Penney and their hiring of Ellen and the ad wih the gay dads. Luckily, JC Penney stood up to them. But that small group was able to garner attention and make a big stink. I hope JC Penney continues to fight them but their CEO had to step down this week, so who knows. People who protested them are taking credit for his dismissal. Another example, look at what a very vocal minority was able to do to the Dixie Chicks. They destroyed their career by getting them blackballed from country radio. Radio could have just ignored it and let it pass, cause I think the majority of even country music fans didn't care. But radio listened to the ones raising hell and stopped playing the Dixie Chicks and destroyed their career. Look at the current backlash against Carrie Underwood. When asked about it during her latest UK interviews, she's trying to back away from it cause she acknowledged the backlash. She didn't verbally retract her support but she didn't reinforce it either. She is trying to avoid talkng about it altogether cause the backlash scared her.
The more I think about it, the more I think this is what is going on. Anything that corporate run radio thinks is going to jeopardize advertising, radio is going to run from. They don't have anythng against Adam but corporate America is not into standing up for social causes, they're all business.
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Post by nica575 on Jun 21, 2012 14:33:30 GMT -5
On the homophobia issue, I don't think the PD's or corporate have this issue. I think some of the listeners do and radio is listening to them. One example I can give is both times Adam was on the syndicated Kidd Kraddick show, their Facebook page was filled wth hateful, homophobic posts. There were people posting that even though they were loyal listeners, they would change the channel while Adam was on. If people will do that, what's to say they don't complain to radio stations when they do play Adam? I do think the majority of people don't care but there are just enough to be vocal enough to make a stink and Adam doesn't have a large enough fan base or high enough sales to overcome it. Look what happened with the protests around JC Penney and their hiring of Ellen and the ad wih the gay dads. Luckily, JC Penney stood up to them. But that small group was able to garner attention and make a big stink. I hope JC Penney continues to fight them but their CEO had to step down this week, so who knows. People who protested them are taking credit for his dismissal. Another example, look at what a very vocal minority was able to do to the Dixie Chicks. They destroyed their career by getting them blackballed from country radio. Radio could have just ignored it and let it pass, cause I think the majority of even country music fans didn't care. But radio listened to the ones raising hell and stopped playing the Dixie Chicks and destroyed their career. Look at the current backlash against Carrie Underwood. When asked about it during her latest UK interviews, she's trying to back away from it cause she acknowledged the backlash. She didn't verbally retract her support but she didn't reinforce it either. She is trying to avoid talkng about it altogether cause the backlash scared her. The more I think about it, the more I think this is what is going on. Anything that corporate run radio thinks is going to jeopardize advertising, radio is going to run from. They don't have anythng against Adam but corporate America is not into standing up for social causes, they're all business. i agree, Junie... i didn't know there was a backlash against Carrie...and she is backing off now???? interesting... |
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Post by sage on Jun 21, 2012 15:33:21 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood's Gay Marriage Support Prompts Backlash From Fans www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/carrie-underwood-gay-marriage-backlash-london_n_1612498.htmlCarrie Underwood is all about the music, not politics.
Yet the 29-year-old country music star has found herself in a media storm after voicing support for gay marriage.
In an interview with British newspaper The Independent, Underwood, who is married, was quoted as saying she believes everyone should have the right to love. She also noted that her church was gay-friendly and it wasn't her job to judge people.
Underwood's comments created a backlash online from those angry with her stance.
Speaking in London, Underwood was uncomfortable revisiting the subject and said she was staying away from reading the reactions.
"I was asked a difficult question in the last five minutes of an interview and I answered it the best way I knew how, and after that I do what I do and I love making music and I generally try to stay out of any kind of controversy," she told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday.
That said, Underwood is a former "American Idol" and Grammy winner who knows what she says will be heard.
"The role-model word is really scary to me, because no matter what happens in your life, something you do, wear, say, sing, whatever – somebody somewhere is probably not going to like it too well," she said. "I just really try hard to do what I do and try to be nice to people and make great music and if people think they can look up to that, that's wonderful. If not, that's OK too."
It'll be interesting to see what happens when she gets back to the US. She's done most of her album promo for the US already so I wouldn't be surprised if she avoids interviews for a while when she gets back. It's just sad to see how some people are trying to shut her down, all because of an innocent, well-meaning statement. I've certainly gained more respect for her. But there are some who are making it very uncomfortable for her right now. |
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 21, 2012 15:49:54 GMT -5
I'm no Carrie fan, but I gained new respect for her, too, after hearing her comments. She is in a VERY conservative genre, and she had to know that speaking up would anger a lot of her fans.
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Post by JazzRocks on Jun 21, 2012 16:02:43 GMT -5
I'm no Carrie fan, but I gained new respect for her, too, after hearing her comments. She is in a VERY conservative genre, and she had to know that speaking up would anger a lot of her fans. I'd have more respect for her if she stood her ground rather than backing down or avoiding the subject. She apparently answered a last minute question without considering the consequences. Now that she knows what the repercussions are it might be a courageous thing to do to defend her position. She might actually have a positive impact with her conservative fans. What would Adam do? |
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Post by smokeyvera on Jun 21, 2012 16:05:46 GMT -5
On the homophobia issue, I don't think the PD's or corporate have this issue. I think some of the listeners do and radio is listening to them. One example I can give is both times Adam was on the syndicated Kidd Kraddick show, their Facebook page was filled wth hateful, homophobic posts. There were people posting that even though they were loyal listeners, they would change the channel while Adam was on. If people will do that, what's to say they don't complain to radio stations when they do play Adam? I do think the majority of people don't care but there are just enough to be vocal enough to make a stink and Adam doesn't have a large enough fan base or high enough sales to overcome it. Look what happened with the protests around JC Penney and their hiring of Ellen and the ad wih the gay dads. Luckily, JC Penney stood up to them. But that small group was able to garner attention and make a big stink. I hope JC Penney continues to fight them but their CEO had to step down this week, so who knows. People who protested them are taking credit for his dismissal. Another example, look at what a very vocal minority was able to do to the Dixie Chicks. They destroyed their career by getting them blackballed from country radio. Radio could have just ignored it and let it pass, cause I think the majority of even country music fans didn't care. But radio listened to the ones raising hell and stopped playing the Dixie Chicks and destroyed their career. Look at the current backlash against Carrie Underwood. When asked about it during her latest UK interviews, she's trying to back away from it cause she acknowledged the backlash. She didn't verbally retract her support but she didn't reinforce it either. She is trying to avoid talkng about it altogether cause the backlash scared her. The more I think about it, the more I think this is what is going on. Anything that corporate run radio thinks is going to jeopardize advertising, radio is going to run from. They don't have anythng against Adam but corporate America is not into standing up for social causes, they're all business. i agree, Junie... i didn't know there was a backlash against Carrie...and she is backing off now???? interesting... I have a hard putting my arms around this concept. They played WWFM and later IIHY. Heck I still hear WWFM or IIHY everyday here in Atlanta. No NCOE though. Most stations are owned by Cumulous. |
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Post by durberville on Jun 21, 2012 16:07:33 GMT -5
I'm no Carrie fan, but I gained new respect for her, too, after hearing her comments. She is in a VERY conservative genre, and she had to know that speaking up would anger a lot of her fans. Sounds to me like she was caught off guard and didn't have time to process the question and censor her answer to please her fans. Although I'm happy to hear that she feels the way she does...I wouldn't give her credit as an activist for equal rights....and now she's backtracking. Meh. EDIT after reading above - Jazz, you are me. My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by sage on Jun 21, 2012 16:23:13 GMT -5
i agree, Junie... i didn't know there was a backlash against Carrie...and she is backing off now???? interesting... I have a hard putting my arms around this concept. They played WWFM and later IIHY. Heck I still hear WWFM or IIHY everyday here in Atlanta. No NCOE though. Most stations are owned by Cumulous. Many stations dragged their feet on WWFM and many areas of the country never got to hear IIHY. I know here in Dallas, they weren't quick to start playing WWFM and we didn't get IIHY until it made it into Top 20 CHR. Then they only played it for 2 weeks and we never heard it again. Many areas of the country got pretty substantial airplay. Many gave him minimal airplay. I still think the lack of radio presence was the reason he only sold out about 60% of the venue during GN in Dallas. Other areas where he had a stronger radio presence (east coast, Houston, and yes Atlanta), sold out. As far as Carrie, it's easy to say what we would do if we were in her position. We, personally, don't have as much to lose as she does. At the very least, she didn't retract her previous statement either, which some celebrities have done when they received crticism. I don't fault her because as Adam fans, we know how cruel those detractors can be. I always think it's best to show as much support for someone like Carrie who speaks out. Being silent in supporting her, cause some don't think she went far enough in speaking out..I don't think that's the answer either. |
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Post by smokeyvera on Jun 21, 2012 16:35:00 GMT -5
I just listened to an interview with Katy Perry concerning he 3D movie. She sounds like a little girl on drugs. I guess when you pander to tweens and teens, you become one.
I guess my point is, you don't have to be talented to be a star. You have to be at the right place at the right time and pander to certain age groups. It's cool to be a bieber or a KP fan. It's not so cool to be a AL fan.
I think Adam got caught up in the British invasion of ID, also the success of Fun and the Wanted with the Biebs thrown in there. Then of course Adam Levine with his inane songs. I think his single and album came out at the wrong time. It should have been Feb and I think it would have gotten the traction.
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