LOL LONG MOUSE KILLING SCROLL ALERT, KEEP MOVING IF LGBT ISSUES ARE BORING OR YOU'RE "OVER IT" Well just for the record, Liberals are not immune from homophobic actions and opinions. They can be equally uniformed and clueless as anyone else.
Furthermore, you all realize that Obama only verbally supported marriage equality but politically threw it back onto the states to save his ass in the elections, right? This means that while there are laws in something like 30 states PROHIBITING marriage equality and the only states with marriage equality were those that the COURTS made legal...in Obama's way he threw it right back on the states to VOTE for it. Meaning a no-go. Yes he did other things like stop enforcing DOMA and changing DADT but I'm specifically addressing overall equality.
Granted when it gets to the Supreme Court things might change but it was only a half "brave" thing he did. This is another topic under heated discussion in the LGBT community. MANY feel Obama was willfully ignoring the comm for most of his 4 years only using LGBT people in the end for fund raising.
So you can debate the facts or stay out of it if politics aren't your bag but let's not just put a narrative out that is false. Not saying anyone did this here, just saying it's analogous to the Brad issue. People with a limited experience or none...criticizing other people's well THOUGHT OUT AND COMMON BELIEFS as "ridiculous".
I don't mind that a fan site willfully stays on the periphery of LGBT issues. There's no obligation to dive in the difficult end of the pool just because your stan is gay.
But it's continually insulting and pretty LOL that individuals finger wag in their hetero viewpoint of exactly WHAT homosexuals, trans and gender variant people and their advocates are "permitted" to be insulted by and continually chose to define homophobia by their mainstream cisgender standards. the very "standards" that prevent LGBT people from just peacefully existing in public.
Before defining homophobia try subscribing to ActUp or other LGBT media sites to get your head in the REAL space.
80% of the gay men I know won't watch late night TV because it's entirely "too hetero", Kimmel and the rest of them have ALL had their blatant homophobic "jokes" broadcasted. The other 20% think it's ok to be "in on the joke".
This is an ongoing conversation in the LGBT community. We won't even go into the internal debates over transphobia and the L versus G vs T "battles" going on. Conan THIS JUNE was forced to apologize by GLAAD for his trans "joke".
www.glaad.org/blog/conan-obrien-apologizes-anti-trans-jokeFor example Kimmel or Fergueson or one of them had a skit with wrestlers who, after wrestling ended up making out and everyone was LOL their asses off. MOST LGBT people are OVER the ad hominum crap. You better believe that "joke" showed up right away on gay blogs.
80% of the gay men I know can't stand Kathy Griffin because of her blatant use of "my gays" and targeting their sexuality as her punchline. And her use of Clay Aiken was a horrific stalking bullying target job calling him "Gaykin" devoting a large part of her monologue to that, and harassing him for years including following with her camera and stan crew behind the scenes at shows like Vegas. This was when he was still in the closet. People who didn't GAF about Aiken were outraged. And these were not Aiken fans or Idol watchers but people who generally disdain the show.
Just like it's an ongoing conversation with two sides battling the Anderson Cooper closet "problem". And the Queen Latifah "problem". Things most people here don't know about or care about.
Nobody here seems to know the deep DANGEROUS underbelly of the LGBT world, how HARD it is to even define your own sexuality growing up. Are people ACTUALLY CLAIMING that JOKING about it is acceptable? WTAF.
LOL to anybody who believes that a Freddie Mercury wouldn't have traded most of his professional accomplishment for personal peace and happiness if he could have.
Do you really think that if Adam Lambert could waive a magic wand and be promised a lifetime of normal with Sauli that he wouldn't walk away from fame TOMORROW?
We won't even go into being Trans - very different than gay. Wherein for example "tons of" of pre op Trans women are working in the sex industry in some capacity and always have. RuPaul and Raja got their start in tranny bars. Yes I said it the verbotin word tranny. Because that's what they were called. This means performers with breasts and penises. AKA "Shemale" in the porn business. I will put Carmen Carrera in this category. if she doesn't find mainstream fame like a Candis Cayne or a new line of work, IF she choses SRS surgery, she'll continue to get bashed for performing in "gay" bars as a complete woman - which makes no sense at all to a large percentage of gay men. Once the SRS is done the illusion is no longer interesting DUH.
Should you care? No. But by way of example, it shows how much people DON"T know about the LGBT life.
I bet a dollar all the Raja stans and haters have no idea that Sutan lived for 6 years quasi as a woman to satisfy his lover and finally abandoned that because "it wasn't what he needed". The interview was quietly posted on Queerty.
Sutan even said on RPDR that his path was treacherous. He wasn't referring to being beaten up on the streets he was talking about personally dangerous.
Read this:
www.queerty.com/drag-race-winner-sutan-amrull-a-k-a-raja-wants-you-to-have-sex-in-heels-20110512/The journey of LGBT people is hard and willfully not understood by most hetero people. "Who cares, I'm straight keep it to yourselves and we're good".
That's fine, it's not your thing. Just like, say, spousal abuse is not my hotbutton.
But maybe instead of a bunch of people trolling their own fansite for two days with MISINFORMATION, just ignore the debate and not lecture others if you don't have first hand knowledge of the subject.
I'm not running around saying it shouldn't be offensive to black people if white people use the N word because I don't live in that world and keep out of it, for example.
I HAVE grown up in the gay world, in a gay family and certainly KNOW what homophobia means and more important what it FEELS LIKE.
It's a simple litmus test:
Homophobia isn't a synonym for "hate "or "violence".
Any time a person's sexuality and/or orientation is a target or punchline it's homophobia. When all people finally attain equality in all areas of life and can see same sex couples on Dancing With the Stars or some such other TV crap without getting mocked, we can use OTHER PEOPLE"S definition of homophobia.
Don't hold your breath LOL. It doesn't exist anywhere in the world.
This is why [the iconic ballroom legend] Leiomy on America's Best Dance Crew was such a big thing, and Lil Mama had to apologize for her OUTLANDISHLY INSULTING challenge of Leiomy's gender "you have to remember you were born a man"
www.sohh.com/2009/09/lil_mama_apologizes_for_a.htmlNo Brad and his country peeps don't need to care in the least about LGBT issues. So STFU about gender qualities, Brad.
Also I want to point out some Brad supporters are claiming that it was ONLY the song lyrics. While it STARTED OUT with the song lyrics, how convenient that the INTERVIEW was ignored, wherein he OWNED IT PROUDLY. I say "it" because he was living in his own little hetero misogynistic world completely unaware of ANYTHING, and clearly not interested in learning.
LOL the comments here are EXACTLY "the problem" with Brad stans calling the song "just a joke about metrosexuals" (nice try).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXqqynfqE_0This song is for every man out there who still looks like and acts like he has a cock and nuts hanging between their legs. It sickens me they way men are looking today.
wow. never seen this many comments flagged in a row. Must mean there's some pedicured, pussy-ass guys who take offense to this. Well...if that's the case, then fuck off. Didn't want you here anyway.How many times have you seen a same sex couple holding hands in a dark parking garage then stop when entering the lobby? I see it all the time because I work in highrises.
This is NOT about fucking Brad Paisley it's about a fight for survival in a hostile world. And every small thing counts, albeit it doesn't have to be blown out of proportion when half of the people don't really know much about the subject. Do you even know there's an LGBT battle with two sides wanting the T to be removed from the G? A bit more "important" than some ridiculous country songs.
No, this is not a read LOL. And you better believe I have to scroll PLENTY, myself.
Especially when Adam's fans call him out as ridiculous etc or mock his clothing etc, which, I've never ONCE seen his family or friends do. Just because he called himself that in an interview with the hostile media doesn't mean it doesn't bother him.
And the poncho was a very sentimental gift from his "drag mother" and that's why he wore it to RPDR. He SAID SO. It was a homage. But his "fans" chose to ignore that interview. (not saying the term "pool cover" wasn't funny, but let's recognize some basic facts - he wasn't wearing it as a fucking fashion statement).
Are there even any LGBT people or family members on this site? Just a curious rhetorical question, I guess.