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Post by bullsfan on Jun 5, 2012 18:52:17 GMT -5
In general, a manual add is better; because it usually means new spins. But, an add is an add and we have been waiting a long time for Q102.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 18:52:23 GMT -5
Hi This is NOT meant to be testy. I am thrilled with Q102 add - auto or otherwise. But I do have a question. Is there a different prognosis for spins if it is an auto add as a result of a decision to add. Please bear in mind I know from nothing so if the question is too naive, please ignore it. A station that had 0 spins the previous week, and adds, is IMO showing a commitment to spin. So that kind of add will increase the spin counts for the week. Again, IMO, an add shows a commitment from the station.  |
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Post by sage on Jun 5, 2012 19:09:23 GMT -5
Sooo, Olly Murs gets an add from Z100 and one of their DJ's, Mo Bounce, says on Twitter it's because of "demand". Z100 is the only Top 40 station in the country to add it this week. The #1 market in the country is the only Top 40 station to add this song because "it's in demand."
Unreal...and who says payola doesn't still exist.
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 5, 2012 19:18:21 GMT -5
Isn't that Olly guy opening for One Direction? Maybe his add had something to do with a little pull from the 1D team. (at least they didn't add Stefano, lol)
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Post by marie23 on Jun 5, 2012 19:46:37 GMT -5
late but YAY!!!! Adam got 10 adds this week!!!! YES FOR Q102 AND BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 19:52:55 GMT -5
Sooo, Olly Murs gets an add from Z100 and one of their DJ's, Mo Bounce, says on Twitter it's because of "demand". Z100 is the only Top 40 station in the country to add it this week. The #1 market in the country is the only Top 40 station to add this song because "it's in demand." Unreal...and who says payola doesn't still exist. Exactly! It is so corrupt, it disgusts me! I think we decided on twitter that since he is opening for the 1D tour, it is some kind of deal involving that! |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jun 5, 2012 20:01:06 GMT -5
Um, rabbitrabbit, I am an Adam fan. I have been since AI. It is kind of offensive that you are even equating a few of us who are not celebrating over the album numbers with people who don't fit "must be an Adam fan" criteria. That kind of sucks. I don't think sales of less than 115K at week three are that great, sorry. But, it does not make me any less of a fan. Not all of us are the rainbows and flowers and "personal testimonial" type of people. I'm not a rainbows and flowers and personal testimonial person, I like nitty gritty facts and watching patterns over time, and generally have a "wait and see" approach before assuming the best or the worst. I think also I might have had lower expectations than some to start with? (not for quality of course, but sales and spins). So everything looks pretty on track to me with potential for growth for sure. And I'm not not saying anyone here isn't an Adam fan, I know you are (I edited that line out, sorry about that). I'm saying that there is a particular emotional tone that is kind of becoming a well-worn groove here, and that with the same facts and figures there are certain value judgments about the interpretation of the numbers that are getting reinforced again and again by multiple posters. And I think it's a little unbalanced. And those that don't follow numbers, and come here for info, might think that the dominant opinions/interpretation are shared throughout fandom, when it's kind of leaning a little to one side. I don't even lean to the other side much so I'm not great at balancing it. I like the middle. But anyway, we aren't supposed to talk meta, so I'll stop now. |
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Post by cayman on Jun 5, 2012 20:06:22 GMT -5
What she said I don't post here because I know nothing about numbers and depend on our trusty experts to spell things out in small words. I feel a bit shy to be here. But I do follow a lot of musicians/bands and based on that experience, I'm actually feeling quite positive about progress so far. That Trespassing has done as well as it has w/out a big single to buoy it says a lot and it is very early days for this album. (And if I have to chose - I'll take longevity over early burst.) No Pollyanna I - I've been pleasantly, frankly surprised at the consistently great buzz going on in the mainstream - he's really being treated like a force to be reckoned with even by those who give him mixed reviews - and most of those mixed reviews still show respect for him as an artist. And the buzz seems to be continuing. I think Adam is increasingly difficult to ignore, even for the most reactionary. NCOE is on its way up - and when it hits (I'm having trouble typing with my crossed fingers), I'm going to give up any/all worry and just play words with friends w/all my new free time  I LOVE YOU BOTH GREAT BIG  Oh, Ditto what you both said ;D |
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Post by kittykay on Jun 5, 2012 20:10:23 GMT -5
This was posted at FYE. This USA Today article (Brian Mansfield) about the second week sales of FYE might put things in perspective.
I didn't mean to hurt or discount anyone's feelings. The obstacles for Trespassing seem trivial compared to the FYE launch IMO.
Dec 09, 2009
Album sales: Adam Lambert plummets, Carrie Underwood stays Top 10
lol deja vu much? :3
Speaking of sales drops, let's talk about Adam Lambert's For Your Entertainment for a minute. Its weekly sales plummeted 74 percent, from nearly 200,000 its debut week to just shy of 51,000 in its second. If you're an Adam Lambert partisan, you can try to spin it all you want, but that's just bad. Did the Black Friday shopping rush factor? Maybe, but SoundScan's overall Top 200 sales were off only 14 percent for the week -- Adam's were down 74. For Your Entertainment had the biggest percentage drop of any album in the Top 200 (only one other album was off 70 percent). From a pure numbers standpoint, it came up more than 147,000 units short of its first week, a bigger shortfall than any other album on the chart save Boyle's -- which still outsold Adam by a margin of more than 10-to-1. His digital sales were also down last week.
Adam still hasn't found a foothold at radio, which he'll need if he wants to have solid week-to-week sales going forward after the holiday sales season. One of the major television networks clearly has doubts about his value to them, and the other networks will find amusement in booking him so they can thumb their noses at ABC for only so long. If he doesn't deliver a hit, those big network-TV opportunities (save maybe for Fox) will start drying up soon. In other words, the days of Adam Lambert as a perceived phenom are quickly drawing to a close. He needs a hit, and he needs it quickly.
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 5, 2012 20:12:48 GMT -5
Thanks rabbitrabbit, but understand that you were questioning some of us as being Adam fans---and that is unfair. I think this place is generally very balanced, and let's face it, some stuff isn't all perfect and pretty. I don't think I am OTT or even particularly angsty so I'm not gonna feel responsible if some peope come in here and freak out. We are all adults.
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