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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 11:17:37 GMT -5
I'm seeing on twitter that KTU is only spinning once a day now - overnight. True? I know their spins for the week increased but idk about the last few days & not sure how to check it. So far, the past 2 days, seems to be true. Although mediabase shows a spin increase from 8 to 12 for them. So, I dunno! ??? |
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Post by eywflyer on Jun 23, 2012 16:48:51 GMT -5
I hope ticket sales pick up for some of the upcoming concerts. Just checked on ticketmaster for Costa Mesa (Pacific Amphitheatre) and Thackerville (Winstar World Casino), which have clickable ticket maps. Currently there are 3715 unsold seats for Costa Mesa (capacity 8000-8500 not sure exactly), and 1767 unsold seats for Thackerville (capacity 3400). One of the two Costa Mesa shows in 2010 sold out immediately, and the other one ended up a sellout too. Thackerville took a long time to sell out in 2010, but was sold out before the show date.
The Costa Mesa show is on a date that the OC Fair is open, so hopefully there will be a good walkup crowd.
Fantasy Springs is not currently sold out either. No clickable map there, but there appear to be plenty of seats remaining.
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 23, 2012 17:01:16 GMT -5
I hope ticket sales pick up for some of the upcoming concerts. Just checked on ticketmaster for Costa Mesa (Pacific Amphitheatre) and Thackerville (Winstar World Casino), which have clickable ticket maps. Currently there are 3715 unsold seats for Costa Mesa (capacity 8000-8500 not sure exactly), and 1767 unsold seats for Thackerville (capacity 3400). One of the two Costa Mesa shows in 2010 sold out immediately, and the other one ended up a sellout too. Thackerville took a long time to sell out in 2010, but was sold out before the show date. The Costa Mesa show is on a date that the OC Fair is open, so hopefully there will be a good walkup crowd. Fantasy Springs is not currently sold out either. No clickable map there, but there appear to be plenty of seats remaining. With no single getting significant airplay so far this era and the fact that Adam is three years past AI fame, this was going to happen. I'm just thrilled he can still sell around 5,000 tickets to a Fair show! What's wrong with that? The fact that Adam can sell anywhere from 2,000-5,000 seats gives him a lot of options. Kris is down to about 200-300- now THAT's a problem! Even Daughtry is having problems selling more than 2000-3000 for his shows. This means Adam would be an excellent choice for an opener or a co-headlining situation and it also means he could do a solo tour of smaller to medium sized venues. What's bad about those options? |
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Post by eywflyer on Jun 23, 2012 17:11:51 GMT -5
With no single getting significant airplay so far this era and the fact that Adam is three years past AI fame, this was going to happen. I'm just thrilled he can still sell around 5,000 tickets to a Fair show! What's wrong with that? The fact that Adam can sell anywhere from 2,000-5,000 seats gives him a lot of options. Kris is down to about 200-300- now THAT's a problem! Even Daughtry is having problems selling more than 2000-3000 for his shows. This means Adam would be an excellent choice for an opener or a co-headlining situation and it also means he could do a solo tour of smaller to medium sized venues. What's bad about those options? I'd bet a lot of money that Adam would not agree to be an opener, after headlining his own tour previously. Too humiliating and many of his fans would be very much bummed out to be reduced to seeing him perform a 30 minute set. Besides, do you really think that any headliner would WANT Adam as an opener, knowing that many of his fans are likely to leave after he performs? Yes - Adam could probably still manage decent sales on a tour of clubs and small theaters, although if places like the Pacific Amphitheatre end up only being 60% full he would be unlikely to get booked into places of that size in the future. Clubs and small theaters (similar to the GNT) are much less than what many were hoping for in this era. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 17:22:36 GMT -5
I hope ticket sales pick up for some of the upcoming concerts. Just checked on ticketmaster for Costa Mesa (Pacific Amphitheatre) and Thackerville (Winstar World Casino), which have clickable ticket maps. Currently there are 3715 unsold seats for Costa Mesa (capacity 8000-8500 not sure exactly), and 1767 unsold seats for Thackerville (capacity 3400). One of the two Costa Mesa shows in 2010 sold out immediately, and the other one ended up a sellout too. Thackerville took a long time to sell out in 2010, but was sold out before the show date. The Costa Mesa show is on a date that the OC Fair is open, so hopefully there will be a good walkup crowd. Fantasy Springs is not currently sold out either. No clickable map there, but there appear to be plenty of seats remaining. Adam has as many or more tickets sold in CM as the other shows and his have been for sale the least. I'm sure selling out that venue is very rare. True, he sold out 2 in 2010, but that was the first time that ever happened at CM! EVAH!! Different curcumstances now and I'm sure FS is pulling potential fans from CM. I personally think the CM venue is better, but people might want FS due to the smaller size and the casino. One show in the LA area ina venue of around 5,000 would have been perfect, IMO! ETA: Or what tigerlily just said!  If Adam can play venues of 2500-5000 he will be doing quite well! I remember Q3 saying once, that medium venues are the money makers for artists. Small venues are too small to bring in the $$ and arenas use up a lot of $$! The venue at my County Fair only holds about 5,000. The Pac Amphitheatre is a very unusual venue for a fair. |
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 23, 2012 17:25:17 GMT -5
Basically, all signs are that Adam's fanbase---including the more "casual" fans---is smaller than it was 2 yrs. ago. Something needs to happen to change this. I don't know how Adam would feel about opening or co-headlining, but it may be something he will have to face at some point. Maybe not a full tour, but I don't think opening for a larger act would be something to necessarily look down on. Maybe a handful of dates could expose him to a new audience---plus, he is enough of a "name" that fans of the headlining act might actually WANT to check him out. Typically, I admit to skipping open acts; but, if the person was interesting and had a song or two I recognized, I would probably make the effort to check it out.
Basically, if radio is going to be a problem, his management is going to have to step up and get him some additional opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 17:33:48 GMT -5
With very few exceptions, it has been shown time and time again (using record sales) that being an opener does not expand the artists' fanbase by much (if any!) I have never, and I mean never, bought an album or gone to see an artist because they were an opener for someone I liked.
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 23, 2012 17:35:50 GMT -5
Humiliating? Everyone has opened for others- everyone! Opening for a huge tour can get you in front of new faces and new ears. It would be especially beneficial internationally where most people don't even watch AI and many don't even know who Adam Lambert is. Who cares if some of the fans would be bummed? I want new eyes and ears to see and hear what I see and hear. I want MORE fans so that Adam will be more successful and so there will be more people requesting his songs and buying his single and albums! I want RCA and Adam to do whatever is best for ADAM's career and his future! The fans that travel around the country and sit in the front row at every show will either get over it or they will try and put Adam first instead of themselves and their needs. Sometimes you have to give up a little to gain a lot. I have no idea what Adam and his team were hoping for this era. I haven't talked to Adam, RCA or DMG.  My guess is that RCA has seen the drop-offs for Idols over the years and was expecting the same types of returns for Adam. They could be thrilled with the fact that Adam can still sell between 2,000-5,000 tickets to a solo concert and are looking into new ways to market him with those numbers in mind. Look at the bright side! |
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 23, 2012 17:44:08 GMT -5
With very few exceptions, it has been shown time and time again (using record sales) that being an opener does not expand the artists' fanbase by much (if any!) I have never, and I mean never, bought an album or gone to see an artist because they were an opener for someone I liked. I have and so did a bunch of people I was with! Guess who it was- Taylor Swift! lol No kidding! A bunch of us moms and daughters went to a Rascal Flatts show. (don't judge ;D) We all liked Taylor Swift, so we bought her album. IDK, maybe it depends on if the opener has the "It" factor and for some reason TS had "It" and it came across in her live shows, even as an opener. This is the same thing I believe about Adam! That's why I said it would be especially beneficial Internationally where there aren't preconceived notions about Adam being on American Idol. |
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Post by nica575 on Jun 23, 2012 18:02:16 GMT -5
Humiliating? Everyone has opened for others- everyone! Opening for a huge tour can get you in front of new faces and new ears. It would be especially beneficial internationally where most people don't even watch AI and many don't even know who Adam Lambert is. Who cares if some of the fans would be bummed? I want new eyes and ears to see and hear what I see and hear. I want MORE fans so that Adam will be more successful and so there will be more people requesting his songs and buying his single and albums! I want RCA and Adam to do whatever is best for ADAM's career and his future! The fans that travel around the country and sit in the front row at every show will either get over it or they will try and put Adam first instead of themselves and their needs. Sometimes you have to give up a little to gain a lot. I have no idea what Adam and his team were hoping for this era. I haven't talked to Adam, RCA or DMG. My guess is that RCA has seen the drop-offs for Idols over the years and was expecting the same types of returns for Adam. They could be thrilled with the fact that Adam can still sell between 2,000-5,000 tickets to a solo concert and are looking into new ways to market him with those numbers in mind. Look at the bright side! here is my take: being that this is not about the invested super fan's emotions but about Adam and his outlook on "life" here is my personal feel/hunch/observation about the topic: 1) Adam did not go for opening in his first "round" 2) Adam has stated that the tour is in 2013 so that he/his mgmt can concentrate on promoting his album throughout 2012, getting additional singles out, radio concerts, one offs, etc, etc, etc... 3) By 2013 TP might get nominated, win things, Adam may perform at various award shows....the point is that there will be higher awareness of Adam/TP by the time 2013 rolls in 4) Queenbert effect is not known but can only ADD to the fanbase and there is no way it can decrease the fanbase 5) There is nothing wrong with doing mid-size venues - see Queen - even they settled for a mid size in London In short - IMO - there is no way in hell Adam is opening for anyone. He is going to have a sell out tour. I am always right BTW  |
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My guess is that RCA has seen the drop-offs for Idols over the years and was expecting the same types of returns for Adam. They could be thrilled with the fact that Adam can still sell between 2,000-5,000 tickets to a solo concert and are looking into new ways to market him with those numbers in mind. Look at the bright side! 
