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Post by durberville on Jul 20, 2012 19:38:01 GMT -5
I'm not going to go look at the latest incident, but what I have never understood is when, all too often, people don't seem to be afforded respect based on long-established credibility and devotion. It's not unusual in human societies to crucify the newcomer or the outlier, but it seems unusual to crucify the Baldwin Sisters or Ike the shopkeeper. And yes I realize I just dated myself terribly.  You know, that reminds me of something more fun. Years ago on TV there was a western show called the Magnificent Seven. They did an episode where Oscar Wilde (played by the great Stephen Fry) came to town. I know Adam has a TV part lined up, but imagine the fun of some of the other TV shows he could have been on in the old days. I'll bet Walton's Mountain would never have been the same. The highlighted part was the straw that broke the camel's back for me today. Add to that the fact that a few relative "newcomers" proclaimed the forum full of negative nellies (my words) and swore off the fandom with an air of superiority - that just got my goat! I did have a chuckle trying to envision Adam on the Waltons, ... thanks for that, junie  . |
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Post by lambo on Jul 20, 2012 19:50:25 GMT -5
Hi! ;D The highlighted part was the straw that broke the camel's back for me today. Add to that the fact that a few relative "newcomers" proclaimed the forum full of negative nellies (my words) and swore off the fandom with an air of superiority - that just got my goat! I've been having a bad few days, when I'm having a bad time I usually just seek solace in Adam, play the music on repeat or fall down the rabbit hole or whatever. But it just didn't help today when I have people calling me a bad fan and someone who considers him a constant disappointment. That just made me feel worse, and yet somehow I'm the one being negative in this. Any comments I made were either just friendly critique or concern from a good place. Any of my comments about Adam are always from a good place because I love Adam. I love anyone else who loves Adam. Feel the love, people... |
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Post by lynne on Jul 20, 2012 20:04:24 GMT -5
I feel EXACTLY the way you do - I'm so damn frustrated but I can't seem to keep my mouth shut. ...and I don't know where to go because, although I admire all of the regulars in this thread, I don't have the energy to keep up with your musings...hehe (it taxes my wee brain  ).  I am escaping to here. Feeling sad that an observation coming from a place of love and caring gets attacked mainly because I suppose it was misunderstood 'cause I didn't express it that well initially but more problematically, because someone had a different experience and didn't gracefully allow me mine. Finding myself uncomfortable and was so looking forward to meeting and hanging with everyone at these concerts. I guess it is a micro chasm of how difficult it is for human beings to communicate. Wires get crossed in communion with the human race. Broken English leads to broken hearts. Just thought that sounded appropriately dramatic. I am not that upset. Just need some space. It was clear to me what you meant and that you weren't saying that Adam didn't still give his all at the concert. I thought your perspective, being up front was interesting. It made me think of all the times in life when you turn things on to get things done. I think what followed in some cases was a strange sequence of telephone from post to post. Communication not at its finest. |
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Post by theosgma on Jul 20, 2012 20:14:41 GMT -5
I am escaping to here. Feeling sad that an observation coming from a place of love and caring gets attacked mainly because I suppose it was misunderstood 'cause I didn't express it that well initially but more problematically, because someone had a different experience and didn't gracefully allow me mine. Finding myself uncomfortable and was so looking forward to meeting and hanging with everyone at these concerts. I guess it is a micro chasm of how difficult it is for human beings to communicate. Wires get crossed in communion with the human race. Broken English leads to broken hearts. Just thought that sounded appropriately dramatic. I am not that upset. Just need some space. It was clear to me what you meant and that you weren't saying that Adam didn't still give his all at the concert. I thought your perspective, being up front was interesting. It made me think of all the times in life when you turn things on to get things done. I think what followed in some cases was a strange sequence of telephone from post to post. Communication not at its finest. Thanks Lynn It seems from twitter that Adam isn't feeling well. So hoping it passes quickly. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ |
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Post by mszue on Jul 20, 2012 20:16:08 GMT -5
I am escaping to here. Feeling sad that an observation coming from a place of love and caring gets attacked mainly because I suppose it was misunderstood 'cause I didn't express it that well initially but more problematically, because someone had a different experience and didn't gracefully allow me mine. Finding myself uncomfortable and was so looking forward to meeting and hanging with everyone at these concerts. I guess it is a micro chasm of how difficult it is for human beings to communicate. Wires get crossed in communion with the human race. Broken English leads to broken hearts. Just thought that sounded appropriately dramatic. I am not that upset. Just need some space. It was clear to me what you meant and that you weren't saying that Adam didn't still give his all at the concert. I thought your perspective, being up front was interesting. It made me think of all the times in life when you turn things on to get things done. I think what followed in some cases was a strange sequence of telephone from post to post. Communication not at its finest. FWIW...it has come out that Adam isn't feeling well...likely from the travelling and subsequent need to re-adjust to new time/weather/humidity etc...which would lead one to suspect he may indeed not have felt his very, very best last night either! Though doubt anyone will have the cojones to fess up to that :-) but should make you feel a tad vindicated for your intuition. ETA...let's not fall into the same trap that has the main thread in its vice. The name calling is usually started by the same couple of people and we can just not let it get to us here...... Let me add that I am so DAMN jealous of all of you that live in So Cal and get so many opportunities to see Adam in person.....not just concerts but radio things...media stuff...sigh.... he really does not visit Canada much and when he does, it is the other side of the country. So I have to rely on these Vids I am afraid.... I would chop of my left Great toe to go to Fantasy Springs!!!!! |
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Post by lynne on Jul 20, 2012 20:17:29 GMT -5
Hi! ;D The highlighted part was the straw that broke the camel's back for me today. Add to that the fact that a few relative "newcomers" proclaimed the forum full of negative nellies (my words) and swore off the fandom with an air of superiority - that just got my goat! I've been having a bad few days, when I'm having a bad time I usually just seek solace in Adam, play the music on repeat or fall down the rabbit hole or whatever. But it just didn't help today when I have people calling me a bad fan and someone who considers him a constant disappointment. That just made me feel worse, and yet somehow I'm the one being negative in this. Any comments I made were either just friendly critique or concern from a good place. Any of my comments about Adam are always from a good place because I love Adam. I love anyone else who loves Adam. Feel the love, people... Aw, I'm sorry you are having a bad few days and am sorry you were made to feel that way! I can't imagine anyone thinking those things of you! I hope tomorrow brings a better day or at least a better moment two. |
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Post by lynne on Jul 20, 2012 20:20:26 GMT -5
It was clear to me what you meant and that you weren't saying that Adam didn't still give his all at the concert. I thought your perspective, being up front was interesting. It made me think of all the times in life when you turn things on to get things done. I think what followed in some cases was a strange sequence of telephone from post to post. Communication not at its finest. Thanks Lynn It seems from twitter that Adam isn't feeling well. So hoping it passes quickly. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Maybe that is what you were feeling from him. I hope it passes quickly too! |
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Post by theosgma on Jul 20, 2012 20:29:56 GMT -5
Thanks Lynn It seems from twitter that Adam isn't feeling well. So hoping it passes quickly. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Maybe that is what you were feeling from him. I hope it passes quickly too! I think it was what I was picking up on. I was trying to say all along it was not that he wasn't energetic and wonderful but there was something about it that wasn't his usual inner/outer connectedness on on a more subtle level. I felt like he was using his personal will and more effort to bring us that fabulous show. He is so giving and amazing and such a professional. I just don't want him to strain for us though I know he will do anything he can to make sure the show to goes on. |
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Post by mszue on Jul 20, 2012 20:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by mika on Jul 20, 2012 20:58:29 GMT -5
I could plead dehydration and jet lag. I think Jon Stewart jokingly credited dehydration when he went off on Tucker Carlson's show all those years ago. I know people mean well but a grudging 'he was good' (and this is Adam so, yeah, he was ~good) isn't enough to off-set that. I mean it IS possible to tease gently Adam's style or sometimes campy take without a nasty twist (kind of like the Rolling Stone 'Zeus in a thong' thing). Basta - moving on... Theosgma I also understood what you meant. In fact, I took a similar shellacking for saying almost the same thing after a GNT show - I noted that the performance was top notch as always but that, in terms of energy, Adam seemed to be reaching into his own reserves to create the wave instead of just riding it. I'm glad to be back here under our cool leaves and the shining moon. Maybe we should go skinny dipping? No one knows you're naked swimming on the internet . The koi might nibble though. ETA: Like Junie, I'm trying to stay off the daily thread but it's tough on concert days and what with my addiction to pics. Still, it seems to regularly be disturbing my inner peace - which I know I need to work on, but... it's a puzzle. I think we should add something fun to the Garden? And I may be forced to comment on random hot guys for no good reason. Tonight I saw the new Batman movie. Cillian Murphy needs to be in more movies as a lead (who isn't a murderer, suicidal, or fleeing zombies - just my opinion . |
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