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Post by mahailia on Nov 2, 2012 12:40:52 GMT -5
Great job Junie, you got talent! And thanks for the Barney Miller episode. I had totally forgotten that show, it was a good one, and very funny!
My son that is gay (he is actually bisexual, but prefers and is more attracted to boys) and I used to watch Will and Grace all the time. It gave him a good frame of reference, and we enjoyed the show. At the time, when he was a teenager, he was dating both girls and boys. We live in a very small community, and there were not many choices. I am sorry to admit that at that time in his life, I didn't really know how to talk about it, so I just ignored the whole issue. Actually, following Adam has helped me quite a bit in finding out about the LGBT community and their issues. What I have learned has also helped me in relating to my son, and now we can talk about anything. It is good. Adam reminds me so much of my boy, so Thanks Adam!!!
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Post by Holst on Nov 2, 2012 13:00:06 GMT -5
Junie, BANNED ON RADIO. :4OMG:
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Post by annala on Nov 2, 2012 17:04:38 GMT -5
Hi Moon Gardneners -
As usual I'm never quite sure when and where to jump in as a number of thoughts and postings have been coming through lately, and sometimes I feel a little slow in responding.
Anyway, first of all, I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed and thought about everyone's latest posts - including some great videos - the Bird Murmuration (for birdy Annala); "Why Don't We Do It In The Road" (which sparked some good conversations and thoughts in my household); the Jane Sidberry / kd lang video (bliss!); and the Barney Miller episode (one of my all-time favorite TV shows; they don't make 'em like they used to, do they?)
What I want to mention here is about the new poster from Finland and Sauli. First of all, I admire the spunk and bravery of ninaballerina, one of our newest posters, on staying with her thoughts and not ducking for cover until she was sure she was understood. I must admit that at first I wondered what was going on here - but with subsequent posts between her and other Atopers it became more clear that there were some cultural issues and feelings about Sauli that needed to be addressed, and I think I now have a better understanding of where she was coming from. I'm glad she stuck it out in such a positive way - and judging from her timeline, I think she's young, about the age of one of my granddaughters.
As for Sauli, I have great admiration for him. He shows a similar positive spunk and determination. Here he was a celebrity in his own right in Finland, and then he made the leap of faith to come to the US to be with Adam. This had to be a major move for him - not only in cultural, language, and even climate changes, but also in the change of perception in how others might see him in the US more as the boyfriend of Adam and not a person in his own right with his own successes. All of this could not have been easy. While Adam was going through the slow "down time" when creating his new album, I think this was also a very important time for Sauli and Adam where they had the chance to really bond and get used to their new situation - just doing the simple things - jogging, the juicing thing, getting to know Adam's family and friends (including visits with his friends' new babies), and just settling down to be homebodies. Adam once said "I think we're beginning to get boring" - and I think "boring" can be a good thing sometimes, especially on such a frenetic roller-coaster ride as the music business. Sauli also got out and about and made connections with other Finnish people in SoCal. But what really sold me on Sauli was during the aftermath of the debacle last winter when they both ended up in the drunk tank. While the media and Adam were scrambling on how to address this kerfuffle, Sauli stepped forward and said "Love is not always easy, but love is enduring". Eloquent and simple - that was all that needed to be said. When I read that I thought - Sauli, you're a good man. He's rock solid - and I'm so glad that he and Adam found each other.
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Post by satisfied on Nov 2, 2012 17:28:16 GMT -5
... I think I now have a better understanding of where she was coming from. I'm glad she stuck it out in such a positive way - and judging from her timeline, I think she's young, about the age of one of my granddaughters.
Yes. Sometimes when I'm puzzled about certain posts, I like to check the member's profile to see if s/he has included their age. Assuming they picked a real birth date ( ) and are much younger than I am, my reaction is often "good for you for joining in!" I enjoy the passion they bring to the board and their fresh perspective often gives me pause.
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Post by Holst on Nov 2, 2012 17:35:07 GMT -5
Well, how odd is this that I just posted about my bi-sexual nephew on this page yesterday and today had a very unusual experience. A violin student of mine who just moved to town told me a story about cross-dressing for a Halloween Day at school today. He said that now there are people speculating that he is gay, but "I'm not. I'm bi-sexual. My parents don't know." Oh my. Sounds like family will be tough on him. He has made some very good friends and is active in the Gay-Straight Alliance Club. So at least he has some support. He also reported that the mock election at his high school had over 70% support of the gay marriage referendum.
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Post by nonchallance on Nov 2, 2012 18:34:39 GMT -5
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Post by mahailia on Nov 3, 2012 8:39:40 GMT -5
Well, how odd is this that I just posted about my bi-sexual nephew on this page yesterday and today had a very unusual experience. A violin student of mine who just moved to town told me a story about cross-dressing for a Halloween Day at school today. He said that now there are people speculating that he is gay, but "I'm not. I'm bi-sexual. My parents don't know." Oh my. Sounds like family will be tough on him. He has made some very good friends and is active in the Gay-Straight Alliance Club. So at least he has some support. He also reported that the mock election at his high school had over 70% support of the gay marriage referendum. I think this is good, and that in general, young people today don't have the homophobia of our (baby boomers) generation. I hope this kid will be OK. If he cross dressed for Halloween, surely his parents noticed, so maybe it won't be hard for him. Also, he is lucky to be at a large school that has a Gay/Straight Alliance club. A lot of smaller schools don't have this kind of thing, and it can still be very hard. Also, like I said in my earlier post, lots of kids and families grew up with Will & Grace, which was a funny and positive show, and I think it helped to shift the perception that people had. Now, we have had Brothers and Sisters for several years, and many other shows are incorporating gay couples, PLL episode that Adam was on has a lesbian couple. It almost seems like the new normal (isn't there a new sitcom out called that?) to include gay couples in the mix of characters on TV shows, so there are a lot more examples out there to be seen, to be accepted, and to change the way people view gay people. It all helps to eradicate the ignorance and predjudice. I think we are getting there as a society, slowly but surely.
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Post by nikki on Nov 3, 2012 9:01:16 GMT -5
Hi again everyone And thanks to those of you who have been very sweet and kind to me over the last few weeks - you know who you are. And that it has really made a difference. I think sometimes something said just pushes somebody's button. We all have things we are sensitive about rather we are a "sensitive" or not. mahailia, that pretty much says it for me recently. I like and respect your directness. It can also be so much more than that though, which Junie and others have expressed so well. By the way, Junie, this may be the moon garden, but you are such a beautiful light in here My ambling around is also a response to your post on the subject, Aleksandrakv . I think we may have had some similar experiences with our sons, mahalia. Sensitivity was an issue from a very early age. Intense-tasting foods made him vomit. Fabrics he wore had to be soft. He still won't wear woollen jumpers. Any raised voices resulted in tears. He had intense reactions to most things. He was speaking in full sentences at 18 months. Reading came quickly, together with an endless curiosity about diverse things. He could sit perfectly still and focus for hours on end when something fascinated him. At age 2, he could beat me at memory games. He went to school at age 4 and he asked me why the same day would happen more than once. It turned out that he was dreaming future events very precisely. And he became so disillusioned by school by his second year. His teacher called me in and asked me if he had ADHD because he would rock backwards and forwards in his chair all day. He was bored out of his mind and that was the only way he knew how to cope. Dabrowski's working theory of 5 innate sensitivities, called "over-excitabilities", one of which is emotional sensitivity, was partly used to evaluate my son as "highly able". This is a general explanation here: www.stephanietolan.com/dabrowskis.htmWhat is important to emphasise is that it isn't simply about having more of the same. It is a qualitative difference in perception itself, an expanded capacity, that some people have, which is why it is so difficult to understand if it is not within our own experience. If you love to puzzle over the fascinating riddle that is Adam Lambert, then the concept of "over-excitabilities" forms part of a psychological theory called Positive Disintegration, where these qualities serve a much greater purpose in terms of individual development: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Disintegration"The notion that some people have an innate potential for development that is determined by a higher sensitivity or overexcitability and by a related tendency to develop individual differences and autonomy from the group.
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Post by melliemom on Nov 3, 2012 10:11:12 GMT -5
I have been throttled any number of times ,by The mods and by one or two Adamtopian folks who seem to get angry at me for giving my opinion from time to time. Nevertheless I've been here since Planet fierce and I love Adam ,Adam news and feel a real kinship to so many of the really caring,funny and just plain wonderful people on this blog. A special Thank you to Juniemoon who helped convince me not to jump ship and invited me to the Moon Garden. :wub:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 11:37:27 GMT -5
Nikki!!!!You guys, I am enjoying hearing about your families, and also the students, so much. That is one thing that has been lacking on this board that I do like about ALFC. Because it is behind the subscription wall, perhaps, people have felt more free to share stories and it really helps in getting to know and makes things more fun and interesting. To me, Adam's career is reaching a new stage -- a stage where being a fan has to become more sustainable over the long term than riding the rocket ship. And so I really like getting to know some of you better as human beings. Now, apparently, I have some really bad karma to pay off, or something! Because I have to make a silly, unexpected business trip to a small town in East Texas. mahailia and lindag, this town is so small, it is the town Dairy Queen forgot. You will understand. I will not have Internet access. And I have to go with my crazy, narcissistic boss. And in the spirit of getting to know ... allow me a small rant. You know the Numbers thread? Well, I don't care about Adam's numbers, but since childhood I have been obsessed with a certain set of other numbers. For you teachers out there ... in 1976, when I was in the 6th grade, we students were given an Electoral College map to color in for the election between Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. I LOVED it. The next time I tracked election numbers all year long and made an elaborate notebook of events and numbers. I still have all the notebooks I made between 1980 and 1996. After that the Internet took over and I just follow along online. The point is that every four years, I've tracked presidential polls and state-by-state electoral college numbers, irrespective of the prospects of the candidate I'm supporting. As a matter of fact, I've supported the losing candidate more often than the winner. And don't try to figure out how I've voted -- I swing both ways, I'm an independent. LOL. It is so interesting to me to try to understand who is voting, how they are voting, and why, in every state. So I have to miss the last weekend of the campaign and all the last minute polls. Maybe the universe is saving me from myself, who knows? End of rant! I'll be around a little today, then I won't see you guys until Wednesday morning. Smooches to all and especially nikki and melliemom.
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