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Post by lynne on Nov 12, 2012 8:45:15 GMT -5
It makes me smile this morning to think of how much joy Adam has brought into so many lives, my own included. His voice alone is a gift; add to that the lists of things so many of you have already mentioned, multiplied by new friends from all walks of life around the world. No wonder I love this dive! 1 4 4 20
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 9:05:48 GMT -5
It makes me smile this morning to think of how much joy Adam has brought into so many lives, my own included. His voice alone is a gift; add to that the lists of things so many of you have already mentioned, multiplied by new friends from all walks of life around the world. No wonder I love this dive! 1 4 4 20 Semi-lurkdom, Lynne? You were gone, lady! Welcome back 1 3 54 10
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Post by mahailia on Nov 12, 2012 9:10:17 GMT -5
alek & lynne, love all your words.
but what the heck are these numbers?
I'm clueless, as usual.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 9:16:28 GMT -5
Mahailia, thanks! Mine are the timer until Adam's Cape Town concert, above the thread. And I hope that's what Lynne's were
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 9:37:31 GMT -5
We should never use love as a negotiating tool. The love is freely given the relationship is to be worked on and a failed relationship is not a failure of love itself but of the work necessary for coexistence.
As a young child I absolutely abhorred the fairy tale ending of "they lived happily ever after" because to me it stank of being a big fat lie. But I can't even begin to tell you the number of people who express this false belief that just being in love magically makes everything work and if it doesn't then you leave because the love was what was inadequate. See, I actually believed in that big fat lie. I know. : I can laugh at it now, but it took a few years, a lot of drama and me hitting a couple of hard-rock walls. Learning what you wrote was painful for me. Also, I still keep learning, which makes love and relationships a process, a wonderful and challenging perpetuum mobile. Once you figure out just the smallest love's trinket, it feels great. So I keep figuring out.
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Post by lynne on Nov 12, 2012 9:49:58 GMT -5
mahailia and Alec Countdown for new parts of the show and for new vids Never really gone, just a bit side tracked with life events: new grand daughter, new school year and new projects, but things have quieted down a bit, so I am relaxing and unwinding again before the big December onslaught. (All of my children, plus my two grandchildren and son-in-law, will be spending the holidays with us and staying for three to four weeks.) This is why I will not be attending the Diva taping... My daughter gets in that day. However, I will definitely be watching it with the entire family when it airs on TV, lol. See? Balance.
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Post by mahailia on Nov 12, 2012 10:05:57 GMT -5
thanks ladies!
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I thought the concert was today! duhhhhhh
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Post by lynne on Nov 12, 2012 11:02:13 GMT -5
We should never use love as a negotiating tool. The love is freely given the relationship is to be worked on and a failed relationship is not a failure of love itself but of the work necessary for coexistence.
As a young child I absolutely abhorred the fairy tale ending of "they lived happily ever after" because to me it stank of being a big fat lie. But I can't even begin to tell you the number of people who express this false belief that just being in love magically makes everything work and if it doesn't then you leave because the love was what was inadequate. See, I actually believed in that big fat lie. I know. : I can laugh at it now, but it took a few years, a lot of drama and me hitting a couple of hard-rock walls. Learning what you wrote was painful for me. Also, I still keep learning, which makes love and relationships a process, a wonderful and challenging perpetuum mobile. Once you figure out just the smallest love's trinket, it feels great. So I keep figuring out. I will be celebrating 32 years of marriage in a few weeks, and I am still learning. It has been an interesting path because, like Adam, my husband is frequently on location, and there are times when we are apart because of that. Once we had children, I was pretty much rooted to their lives and couldn't just pick up and go away for three to six months at a time. It was hard, and sometimes I was resentful of the extra burdens that challenge created. We did have some wonderful all-expense paid vacations to some fabulous locations, however, lol, and these days we all remember those fondly. At some point, somewhere along the line, I realized that I would rather have some time with my (pretty amazing) husband than all of my time without him and decided to make my own life satisfying in and of itself and think of the time with him as a really great bonus. I threw myself into my own creative pursuits and developed my own passions outside of the passion I had for him, lol. In turn, when he came home he always made himself really present in my life and acknowledged his gratitude, and when he was away we would find ways to stay connected. Thirty two years, and the "work" of the relationship is now an old, familiar, quirky friend whom I completely understand and love, one that I would happily choose , and do happily choose, again and again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 12:12:32 GMT -5
ETA - I forgot to add that it is not without significance that at this moment in my life I feel accomplished and confident enough to allow myself the luxury of Adam. I deserved it, damn it:))) I loved reading all the thoughtful posts from this weekend. It is interesting to read all the different perspectives about fandom and balance and whether or not fandom has been a positive or negative influence in life. Aleks, your post this morning really resonated deeply with me. Say it, girl! I do keep coming back to the sports thing, because people who love sports, I think, do so because it connects us with the highest aspirations of mankind. Some people manage to subvert that and ruin it for themselves with obsession (see Penn State; see Lance Armstrong). But in essence that is what it's all about, and why society supports it so strongly. Many of us connected strongly, for example, when New Orleans made the Super Bowl, and were touched by the dancing in the churches and by people who took the victory newspapers out to the cemeteries to leave on the tombs of long-suffering fans who didn't live to see the day. Certainly there was much more emotion there than a mere "game." For me that is what Adam has been, and I don't feel the need to justify it or the time spent. Then again I've always had a tendency to "dive," as lynne says, to lose myself in having to discover everything about something. I'm not a "casual" anything, and I'm comfortable with that; it's not a new character trait that I discovered with Adam. I believe it's something I inherited from my mom. There has been one time when I felt the lack of balance in the Adam thing and that was during the long drought of 2011. There was virtually nothing of what had brought me to Adam during that time. It really was just following celebrity news ... Adam's romance with Sauli, Adam's fashions, Adam's seemingly endless saga to make a second album. Aside from Outlaws of Love, I nearly burned out trying to keep the feeling going that I had from 2010 that Aleks described so well. I learned some things from that and will handle it differently when Adam "goes dark" again and turns his beautiful face away to create something new for us. It's Adam the musician and performer that is so transformative for me, not Adam the celebrity. nikki, you are so beautiful in your picture with Adam! I did get to meet Adam as well, at one of the radio station concerts. I guess I will be brave and post my picture too: I thought about posting this back at the time when it happened, but I'll tell you, I hesitated and still do because ... of the way fans were criticizing middle-aged fans like me for even showing up, as if we should stand outside in the rain like Stella Dallas: Give me a break. As far as meeting Adam, it seems to be like other things in life; you get back what you give away. There were some fans there who seemed greedy. These were people who had already met Adam many times. Some had met him at other radio stations within just a few hours. These fans were hard for me to understand. They seemed to embody a black hole of need. Fortunately, Adam seemed full of light and joy. He seemed to feel in a room full of friends and I felt I was in the presence of a friend or big brother ... he has a paternal energy that feels surprising coming from someone still so boyish. I don't know if I would get anything out of another chance to meet him or if I would even try for it. Similarly, I don't feel the need to go to every feasible concert, watch every video, or read every article. I don't ever want to feel that I'm consuming Adam as a product. * I read with interest what you all had to say about gender issues and transsexuals. I've never been acquainted with any transsexuals (that I know of). I do think that people know very early, as mahailia said, that they are different, and other kids and adults seem to know too and give them a hard time, even when they are presexual. One of my childhood friends who turned out to be gay had to deal with homophobic parents who were in Anita Bryant's crusade. In later years I've thought they probably suspected their son was gay and thought that was the way to prevent it somehow. Overall gay was a very bad thing back in those days. :( I do remember a couple of kids from my school days who were perhaps transgendered. A boy who wore women's pantsuits and was very "swishy," and a girl who was rough and tough and wore men's work clothes. This two kids later went to an alternative school for students who don't fit in a regular school environment. In recent years I ran across the boy's Facebook page and there he was wearing a dress and cuddling with his partner. Good for him. :D 1 0 46 48
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Post by mahailia on Nov 12, 2012 12:19:11 GMT -5
Kay said: (too lazy to quote and delete most of her post) I would love to hear the stories of people's youth and what signs family and caregivers missed, and what they could have done differently, so that little boys like Lana, who struggle with identity, could be helped much earlier than in all the sad stories we hear. Kay - I'm borrowing Mahailia's post to tagalong. I've posted this site before but I really love following the journey of CJ and his family. I'm a little sad that this vibrant little person has started to curb what he really wants out of concern for public reaction - he's five now. I'm glad you were moved by Lana's speech as I was - I was caught by her comment on not liking the term 'transition' and the problems of a society which insists on either/or instead of seeing a spectrum on such identity issues as race, sexuality, gender... Here's the blog I ref'd - much like Lana and Adam, CJ won the 'parent lottery' - so many aren't so lucky to have parents willing or able to be so supportive and to see the world through different eyes for the sake of their child. raisingmyrainbow.com/ mika ~Thanks for posting this again, I think I remember clicking it before, and it provided some very interesting reading. Major KUDOS to this family, it takes courage, strength and resolve to do what they are doing, and lots and lots of love. They are setting a great example, and paving the way for other gender bending children and their families. I understand your sadness at seeing this amazing young boy having to capitulate to society's judgment. We all have to learn to get along in this world, and this little boy is being educated quite early in his life. At least he gets to be himself at home and in his inner circle of family and friends, and has a new playmate, how wonderful. I saw the play "Billy Elliot" while in the UK, and there was this great scene with Billy's friend dressing in his mom's clothes and a fabulous dance number, so fun. It was a great way to express the joy these boys had in dressing up. (wish I could have found a better YT, but hang in there, it gets better) Here is one that is audio only, but you can understand the dialogue better: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfub9KLxIxI&playnext=1&list=PL1CB2A388E8770BA9&feature=results_videoThe latest blog entry about choosing a "boy" costume for Halloween reminded me of a story of my own: My son was in the 2nd grade, and the kids are allowed to wear costumes to school for Halloween. He wanted to be a fairy for Halloween. I told him that he could not be a fairy, because only girls are fairies. I was trying to protect him from being ridiculed at school, and right or wrong, this is how I chose to handle the situation. My son is very head strong, I should say "bull headed" (he is a Taurus), and he kept after me, I want to be a fairy, I want to be a fairy. He was very insistent, and went on for a couple of weeks. I finally told him that if he could find a male fairy character, that I would make his costume for him. 2 days before Halloween, he had found his male fairy, the Fairy Prince from the Thumbellina story. (He is persistent!) So we went to the store, bought what we needed for his costume, and made him a really cool looking Fairy Prince costume. He had leggings and emerald green slippers with turned up toes (like elf shoes), a long belted tunic with puffy upper sleeves, an exotic gold zodiac pendant, and beautiful glitter fairy wings and a gold crown. I really wish I had taken a picture, don't know why I didn't. Maybe the camera was broken or lost. Anyway, we were both excited about his costume, it was very cool (oops already said that). I took him to school, we were late as usual, and when we walked in his classroom, the entire classroom burst out laughing at my son's fairy costume. He didn't seem upset by this at the time, and we have laughed about it in recent times. I am pretty sure he never again wore a fairy costume. Now he is in college, and his costumes have become more intriguing and androgynous, and he still loves Halloween and dressing up.
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