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Post by talon on Jul 28, 2012 2:40:43 GMT -5
The Night Comes Down1. Not going to comment on vocals because I have no idea what a "flat" or "thin" voice means. Do I have the desire to learn which is which? Not really because it will still be over my head :D :D Understandable. I won't go into it then  Absolutely! I agree 110%. Mid 20s - 24-26 around there depending on when this was actually recorded...It does make sense to me and I think of Brian (songwriter here) as a bit of an old soul so with that in mind it makes PERFECT sense   Hey I agree, like I said I rarely put this one on any of my CD mixes (I'm dating myself here) or on my ipod mixes and rarely listen to it unless I'm listening to the whole album...BUT when I get to it I do smile and enjoy it! Indeed it is. The Beatles were a big influence for certain. When John Lennon was shot, the band did an impromptu 'Imagine'. Years later QPR did it at Hyde Park with Brian, Roger, and Paul doing a verse. Very nice indeed  To me that's just it. Music is music. Some may be more into technical aspects or heavily into the hows and whats but your "simplistic" enjoyment and comments mean just as much in the grand scheme of things!
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Post by talon on Jul 28, 2012 4:35:29 GMT -5
Today's song... Modern Times Rock 'N' Rollwritten by Roger Taylor Musicians: Roger Taylor - vocals, drums Freddie Mercury - backing vocals, piano Brian May - guitars John Deacon - bass guitar John Anthony - backing vocals - The first non-Freddie or Brian song on a Queen album AND the first lead vocal by someone other than Freddie. - Roger's writing, especially at the beginning was never very complex - he was the most likely to do some straight forward rock and roll for rock and roll's sake. That's not a bad thing at all as it makes for a nice break in the complexity. - In fact this song actually reminds me of punk - years before punk became vogue! - This was played live, sporadically as closer to the set with Freddie on lead vocals through 1975. ALTERNATIVE RELEASED VERSIONS: BBC SESSION #3- ESSENTIAL listening. - Released on Queen At The Beeb in 1989 in the UK and Queen At The BBC in 1995 in the US. - A somewhat faster pace if possible, frenetic backing track with some additional vocals and guitar. UNRELEASED VERSIONS: BBC SESSION #4- ESSENTIAL listening. - My personal favorite version that is unreleased at this point. It was leaked though obviously  A much slower more deliberate pace. There is some great guitar work here and additional Freddie backing vocals at the end. UNRELEASED AND UNHEARD: -Rumors of a "Rough Demo" have been bandied about. Not much is known. LIVE VERSION: LIVE AT THE RAINBOW - MARCH 1974LIVE AT THE RAINBOW - NOV 1974- Not too many great recordings exist, but it's worth a listen as Freddie is on lead vocals when it was done live. Awesome guitar work from Brian as usual. PERSONAL NOTES: - Again not one I listen to all the time, but a highly energetic number. Great for driving! Of course it's a very short drive  Roger develops as he ages that's for certain but there is a definite youthful innocence here that can't be denied. Rebellious youth at it's best! Next up, Queen goes bluesy and Brian begins to work out his eventual solo...in Son & Daughter
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Post by lambo on Jul 28, 2012 7:15:34 GMT -5
Brilliant work talon, looking forward to what you have to say about Ogre Battle and pretty much everything on Innuendo, and WWTLF. The latter has always been one of my favourite vocals of all time, better than TSMGO even! What do you think of Tom Chaplin's interpretations of Queen songs btw? I used to hope he'd be the next guy to front Queen 
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Post by talon on Jul 28, 2012 8:12:59 GMT -5
Thank you ng! Ogre Battle is upcoming soon! Innuendo :wub: It goes between that, Queen II, and A Night At The Opera for my all time fav Queen album! As for Tom Chaplin...I only saw him do one song with Queen at The Prince's Trust in 2010, but WOW what a song. I would love to see Tom do a whole show as well. And beyond that I think that after George Michael's performance at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Tom's performance was the only one that's been unanimously praised by the hardcore fanbase. I think it helped that they did a more "obscure" greatest hit (yes an oxymoron I know  ) in "It's A Hard Life" (one of my favs) He did perform last September with Queen at the Freddie For A Day tribute and did "It's A Hard Life" again and "The Show Must Go On" but nothing leaked from that show unfortunately. His version of Under Pressure with Keane was also well done but not quite as jaw dropping
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Post by lambo on Jul 28, 2012 10:04:36 GMT -5
Innuendo is crazy good ;D Glad to hear that Tom hooked up with them again. Wonder what his TSMGO sounded like  His It's A Hard was brilliant though he didn't stop moving the entire time and I got dizzy! Hope they sing together again in future  He's also the only person other than Freddie I've heard nail the WHYYYYY in Under Pressure like the studio version.
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Post by theosgma on Jul 28, 2012 17:57:35 GMT -5
[/IMG] It goes between that, Queen II, and A Night At The Opera for my all time fav Queen album! As for Tom Chaplin...I only saw him do one song with Queen at The Prince's Trust in 2010, but WOW what a song. I would love to see Tom do a whole show as well. And beyond that I think that after George Michael's performance at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Tom's performance was the only one that's been unanimously praised by the hardcore fanbase. I think it helped that they did a more "obscure" greatest hit (yes an oxymoron I know  ) in "It's A Hard Life" (one of my favs) He did perform last September with Queen at the Freddie For A Day tribute and did "It's A Hard Life" again and "The Show Must Go On" but nothing leaked from that show unfortunately. His version of Under Pressure with Keane was also well done but not quite as jaw dropping  [/quote] Is there any video of It's A Hard Life from that 2010 performance? Any thoughts as to why the collaboration didn't continue? Sounds like it was a good fit. If he sang TSMGO, he must have the range. Curious about this. He also is young and must have the pep factor.
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Post by gabby on Jul 28, 2012 19:53:23 GMT -5
Modern Times Rock 'N' Roll
Now THIS is a fun song and I can just imagine Roger drumming and jamming to his song. RT really has quite a rocker voice and can really belt it out. I wonder what his album coming out in Nov 2012 will sound like? I am sure he will be the lead vocalist (or only vocalist). Does this mean BM is not involved at all, Talon, with RT's soon to be released album (since I assume this is not a Queen/WWRY production)?
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Post by talon on Jul 28, 2012 20:36:08 GMT -5
Is there any video of It's A Hard Life from that 2010 performance? Well this was never intended as anything more than a one off. See one of the curses of Freddie's death is since then whenver Brian and Roger want to perform they always feel they have to have someone to sing with them. They don't like carrying a whole show on themselves...especially since most of the shows they do are charity gigs and one-offs with others on the bill it's only natural to team up with people...to the point where some hardcore Queen fans get annoyed by them whoring themselves out...BUT in this case it was the Princes' Trust Charity Gala and Tom Chaplin offered his services for the charity. Tom is in Keane: A very successful British band (not too big in the States - the above is really their only known song stateside) so Tom was never leaving his band. So it didn't continue because basically it was only a charity gig...and a charity gig with a house band which is why there are so many others playing with Queen during this. Tom IS a huge Queen fan. Keane have covered Under Pressure and he has never hidden the fact that he is a huge fan. After a fun time at the Princes' Trust, he offered his services for the Freddie tribute the next September. I wish I could hear his TSMGO because Tom DEFINITELY has range as you can tell by 'It's A Hard Life' which incidentally was one of the songs I was hoping to hear Adam sing...One of my favs from that album... Modern Times Rock 'N' RollNow THIS is a fun song and I can just imagine Roger drumming and jamming to his song. RT really has quite a rocker voice and can really belt it out. Definitely. He has quite the scream in him  If it's anything like his previous albums it will be eclectic! His first two album were synth heavy 80s rock type albums. His 1994 album was a very mellow affair - almost Pink Floydish while his last solo album in 1999 was a definite return to the rock but some epic qualities thrown in. Hopefully I can get to Roger's solo albums by then so you can get a taste  Definitely the lead and probably the only. During the last album he shared some vocals with a female vocalist Treana Morris whom he was being very supportive of at the time. But heck, on his first 2 albums he did ALL the instruments. All the vocals, drums, bass, guitars and half the keyboards. He usually takes things well in hand! If I were to venture a guess I'd say no. It just doesn't seem likely especially since Brian is so busy. BUT never say never. They have all guested on each other's stuff in the past but more recently they've stayed away. I would love it if there were one Roger & Brian track!
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Post by theosgma on Jul 28, 2012 21:29:11 GMT -5
Is there any video of It's A Hard Life from that 2010 performance? Well this was never intended as anything more than a one off. See one of the curses of Freddie's death is since then whenver Brian and Roger want to perform they always feel they have to have someone to sing with them. They don't like carrying a whole show on themselves...especially since most of the shows they do are charity gigs and one-offs with others on the bill it's only natural to team up with people...to the point where some hardcore Queen fans get annoyed by them whoring themselves out...BUT in this case it was the Princes' Trust Charity Gala and Tom Chaplin offered his services for the charity. Tom is in Keane: A very successful British band (not too big in the States - the above is really their only known song stateside) so Tom was never leaving his band. So it didn't continue because basically it was only a charity gig...and a charity gig with a house band which is why there are so many others playing with Queen during this. Tom IS a huge Queen fan. Keane have covered Under Pressure and he has never hidden the fact that he is a huge fan. After a fun time at the Princes' Trust, he offered his services for the Freddie tribute the next September. I wish I could hear his TSMGO because Tom DEFINITELY has range as you can tell by 'It's A Hard Life' which incidentally was one of the songs I was hoping to hear Adam sing...One of my favs from that album... Definitely. He has quite the scream in him  If it's anything like his previous albums it will be eclectic! His first two album were synth heavy 80s rock type albums. His 1994 album was a very mellow affair - almost Pink Floydish while his last solo album in 1999 was a definite return to the rock but some epic qualities thrown in. Hopefully I can get to Roger's solo albums by then so you can get a taste  Definitely the lead and probably the only. During the last album he shared some vocals with a female vocalist Treana Morris whom he was being very supportive of at the time. But heck, on his first 2 albums he did ALL the instruments. All the vocals, drums, bass, guitars and half the keyboards. He usually takes things well in hand! If I were to venture a guess I'd say no. It just doesn't seem likely especially since Brian is so busy. BUT never say never. They have all guested on each other's stuff in the past but more recently they've stayed away. I would love it if there were one Roger & Brian track! I REALLY liked both those vids. Thanks so much. He has a great voice and I I like the band. They fit very well together. Regarding the track of the day - yeah Queen can do rock. Fun track. I like both your favorite and the live performance with Freddie on the lead vocals. I like the guitar in both those renditions. The live performance had more of what my limited experience relates to as Queen.
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2012 6:22:10 GMT -5
Yeah Keane is one of the bands I've been meaning to delve much deeper into...just haven't gotten there yet but I do love what I've heard.  Yeah Queen didn't do TOO many straight forward no curves rock tunes but they definitely could rock with the best of 'em 
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2012 7:05:11 GMT -5
Today's song is... Son And Daughterwritten by Brian May Musicians: Freddie Mercury - vocals Brian May - guitars, backing vocals John Deacon - bass guitar Roger Taylor - drums, backing vocals - Queen goes the more standard blues-rock vein. This is probably the closest they came to emulating Led Zeppelin, some of their heroes at the time. - They played the song live through 1976 although by the end it was little more than a 30-45 second version that ended Brian's guitar solo. Even at the beginning though, live this served as the home for Brian May's guitar solo. - Great lyrical tale from Brian talking to a female friend who was so hellbent on being treated equally that she began emulating some of the worst qualities of men and began losing the good qualities of womanhood. So while some have misinterpreted it it truly is about being strong in your womanhood. How many 70s rock bands wrote a good feminine-empowering track  - One of the main riffs used in Neil Fairclough's "Spot-the-riff" solo from QAL. ALTERNATIVE RELEASED VERSIONS: BBC SESSION #3- ESSENTIAL listening. - Released on Queen At The Beeb in 1989 in the UK and Queen At The BBC in 1995 in the US. - Since it was recorded for radio purposes Freddie didn't sing the word, "shit". It does add a lot of extra guitar work by Brian although, I don't think it's as good as the unreleased Session #2. AUSTRALIAN SINGLE EDITNO YT VIDEO - Released on vinyl single in Australia. - Censored and two verses were cut. I actually don't have a copy of this one. One of the few versions of songs I don't have. UNRELEASED VERSIONS: BBC SESSION #2- ESSENTIAL LISTENING. - My favorite version. It does include a bit of Brian's guitar solo ala the live version. And has an occasional new Roger vocal in the background. Very strong performance. UNRELEASED AND UNHEARD: - Rumors of "Outtakes" are bandied about. Not much is known. LIVE VERSIONS: LIVE AT THE RAINBOW - NOVEMBER 1974- Freddie stayed away from "shit" still. Not sure why considering he swore up and down the stage later :D - Features a wonderful version of Brian's harmonizing with himself on the guitar. Great solo! -Great performance by the whole band. PERSONAL NOTES: - I want to point out John Deacon who doesn't get much love because he's SO subtle and rarely stands out. But if you listen to Queen's bass parts they are rarely simple and John makes wonderful musical choices and runs. He really is very underrated. - This one isn't going to go on my Best of Queen mix I've been years in the making, but it is a great snapshot of where they were at the time as they began to move forward into campier, more theatrical rock. Next up...Freddie goes back to religion with... Jesus
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Post by lambo on Jul 29, 2012 7:45:17 GMT -5
Yeah Keane is one of the bands I've been meaning to delve much deeper into...just haven't gotten there yet but I do love what I've heard.  Yeah Queen didn't do TOO many straight forward no curves rock tunes but they definitely could rock with the best of 'em  The Hitman. Nuff said! Metallica wish they could be that metal ETA: For everyone else:
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2012 9:42:09 GMT -5
LOL! How true! 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 14:40:49 GMT -5
IMO Stone Cold Crazy is a great metal song by Queen too. It is credited as possibly being the first thrash metal song ever. Metallica seems to have mad respect for Queen and cites them as one of the bands that inspired them to play. 
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Post by talon on Jul 29, 2012 15:04:31 GMT -5
They do! They covered Stone Cold Crazy and won a grammy with it  They also opened the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert and James sang SCC with Queen during the second half!
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