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Queen Discussion Thread Jul 24, 2012 21:01:07 GMT -5

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OK. I am mainly caught up .

I can see why you love Great King Rat. It is a fascinating track. So powerful, so compelling, so odd! I too liked the BBC version - more life and power.

Haven't listened to all the takes of the two last tracks but love what I am hearing and love the "history" lesson. Thanks so much for all your efforts. So happy to have such a fabulous way to become more knowledgable!

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Queen Discussion Thread Jul 24, 2012 21:20:30 GMT -5

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Jul 22, 2012 15:55:56 GMT -5 talon said:

www.mediafire.com/?finv4axcinn26

FLAC files for Day 2 at Hammersmith

Gabby - GREAT questions, I will answer these in a bit and might add the next section :D

I LOVE that you have a lot of questions per post...as I love talking about the band and related topics :D

Talon, I've heard about your contributions to Atop but I only just now discovered this thread and read all of your posts. Holy crap, you are a treasure!!!! I did quite a bit of my own research before going to the London shows, but clearly I only scratched the surface. As a new Queen fan, I'm so fascinated by the history of the band and I'll be spending time on this thread learning more.

Thank you!!!! :-*

On a separate note, last night I found the above link (a million thanks again!) and downloaded the songs, which sound fabulous. One weird thing though-- every time I try to download IWTBF, I get a virus warning and my computer rejects it. I had no problem with any of the other songs. Has anyone else had this problem or is it my issue?

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Queen Discussion Thread Jul 24, 2012 21:49:51 GMT -5

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Jul 24, 2012 21:20:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Jul 22, 2012 15:55:56 GMT -5 talon said:

www.mediafire.com/?finv4axcinn26

FLAC files for Day 2 at Hammersmith

Gabby - GREAT questions, I will answer these in a bit and might add the next section :D

I LOVE that you have a lot of questions per post...as I love talking about the band and related topics :D

Talon, I've heard about your contributions to Atop but I only just now discovered this thread and read all of your posts. Holy crap, you are a treasure!!!! I did quite a bit of my own research before going to the London shows, but clearly I only scratched the surface. As a new Queen fan, I'm so fascinated by the history of the band and I'll be spending time on this thread learning more.

Thank you!!!! :-*

On a separate note, last night I found the above link (a million thanks again!) and downloaded the songs, which sound fabulous. One weird thing though-- every time I try to download IWTBF, I get a virus warning and my computer rejects it. I had no problem with any of the other songs. Has anyone else had this problem or is it my issue?

Hi NoAngel After FS I am now able to put a face with the avi! So glad you discovered this thread. We are all studying for our PhD in Queen courtesy of Professor Talon!!

I didn't have any problem with IWTBF and yes, these files are incredible!

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Jul 24, 2012 21:49:51 GMT -5 theosgma said:

Hi NoAngel After FS I am now able to put a face with the avi! So glad you discovered this thread. We are all studying for our PhD in Queen courtesy of Professor Talon!!

I didn't have any problem with IWTBF and yes, these files are incredible!

Hi!!! *waves madly*

Yeah, I see that there's been lots of schoolin' going on here :D

Hmmm, if no one else had an issue with that song, I guess it's me :-/

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Jul 24, 2012 20:34:22 GMT -5 theosgma said:

I loved listening to that medley. I am very struck by the validity of Brian's statement of how different Adam and Freddie are. Both are totally amazing but the voice, delivery and style is so different and yet so suited to the music. Very fascinating to see this in close proximity to the QAL concerts.

Indeed! What some people don't realize is that Roger had as high a voice as Freddie

Many times in concert Roger would take the higher harmonies and Freddie would sing lower to thicken the sound with that amazing tone. Nowadays Roger doesn't quite have as big a range and Adam is more than capable so they switch

Did they go to Brazil more than once? Seems like it might be a great place for a QAL concert.

They went in 1981 and again in 1985 and then with QPR in 2008!
Brazil was always an AWESOME place for Queen to play. It was down in South America where the crowd singing along to Love Of My Life really took off

Jul 24, 2012 21:01:07 GMT -5 theosgma said:

OK. I am mainly caught up .

I can see why you love Great King Rat. It is a fascinating track. So powerful, so compelling, so odd! I too liked the BBC version - more life and power.

Queen always liked to do a few odd tracks...and the professionalism they attacked even the oddest track with made them worth at least a listen

Haven't listened to all the takes of the two last tracks but love what I am hearing and love the "history" lesson. Thanks so much for all your efforts. So happy to have such a fabulous way to become more knowledgable!

I don't expect everyone to listen to every vid I put up

BUT they are there for comparison. I think from now I will add an ESSENTIAL LISTENING to what alternate versions should be given a listen!

Jul 24, 2012 21:20:30 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Talon, I've heard about your contributions to Atop but I only just now discovered this thread and read all of your posts. Holy crap, you are a treasure!!!! I did quite a bit of my own research before going to the London shows, but clearly I only scratched the surface. As a new Queen fan, I'm so fascinated by the history of the band and I'll be spending time on this thread learning more.

Thank you!!!! :-*

Awesome to have you join our little "classroom"

I'm happy to answer any and all questions!

On a separate note, last night I found the above link (a million thanks again!) and downloaded the songs, which sound fabulous. One weird thing though-- every time I try to download IWTBF, I get a virus warning and my computer rejects it. I had no problem with any of the other songs. Has anyone else had this problem or is it my issue?

You are welcome! I wish I had an answer about IWTBF :( No idea there.

Jul 24, 2012 22:01:08 GMT -5 nica575 said:

Talon, you are incredible! I am trying to keep up but failing - I will catch up eventually...very interesting!

Well you'll have time when I'm on vacation :D And like I said above, I'll put an ESSENTIAL LISTENING next to the alternate vids

The first vid in every file will be essential obviously.

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Today's track....

My Fairy King

written by Freddie Mercury

Musicians:
Freddie Mercury - vocals, piano
Brian May - acoustic & electric guitars
John Deacon - bass guitar
Roger Taylor - drums, screams, backing vocals

In the land where horses born with eagle wings
And honey bees have lost their stings
There's singing forever
Lions den with fallow deer
And rivers made from wines so clear
Flow on and on forever
Dragons fly like sparrows thru' the air
And baby lambs where Samson dares
To go on on on on on on

My fairy king can see things
He rules the air and turns the tides
That are not there for you and me
Oooh yeah he guides the winds

My fairy king can do right and nothing wrong
Then came man to savage in the night
To run like thieves and to kill like knives
To take away the power from the magic hand
To bring about the ruin of the promised land

They turn the milk into sour
Like the blue in the blood of my veins
Why can't you see it
Fire burning in hell with the cry of screaming rain
Son of heaven set me free and let me go
Sea turn dry no salt from sand
Seasons fly no helping hand
Teeth don't shine like pearls for poor man's eyes

Someone someone just drained the colour from my wings
Broken my fairy circle ring
And shamed the king in all his pride
Changed the wings and wronged the tides
Mother mercury mercury
Look what they've done to me
I cannot run I cannot hide

- This is a seminal track. This is a track which really was the start of a line that led to Bohemian Rhapsody.

- The first time Freddie used a piano on a recording. Brian loved how rhythmic Freddie's playing was...as if it were part of the rhythm section.

- Also the first time the band wrote a track in the studio as most of the tracks they came in with but since they didn't have a piano in their set yet, this was a first!

- The first track which displays Roger's range...All those high "screams" and falsetto notes are actually Roger!

- This song is behind the changing of Freddie's name from Freddie Bulsara to Freddie Mercury (Mother Mercury and all...) Freddie decided to be a messenger from the gods :D

-Inspired by Robert Browning's The Pied Piper In fact some of the lyrics like "And their dogs outran our fallow deer / And honey-bees had lost their stings / And horses were born with eagles' wings" are all direct quotes from the poem!

- Due to there not being a piano on set they never did this song live at the time and by the time they got a piano it was never really considered. There are rumors of this track having been played but nothing substantial. During the 1984-85 medley however, Freddie did play part of the piano in a snippet before moving on to another song.

ALTERNATE RELEASED VERSIONS:

BBC SESSION #1

- ESSENTIAL LISTENING!

- Released on Queen At The Beeb in 1989 in the UK and Queen At The BBC in 1995 in the US.

- This version is similar to the album version but the vocals are a bit more confident sounding. The backing track is very similar.

UNRELEASED AND UNHEARD:
- Supposedly there is a Freddie solo piano demo in existence. Not much else is known on it.

LIVE VERSIONS:

LIVE IN SOUTH AFRICA - 1984

-The first part is from a future lesson

The March Of The Black Queen - Starting at about 0:33 is the My Fairy King snippet.

PERSONAL NOTES:

Love it. This was the type of song that separated Queen from the hard rock pack in the 70s. Awesome vocals, great piano riffing. A very fun song!

Next up: The first real Queen closer concertwise (before We Are The Champions solidified it's place in the late 70s)...Liar

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Queen Discussion Thread Jul 25, 2012 10:22:29 GMT -5

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Jul 25, 2012 8:57:04 GMT -5 talon said:

Today's track....

My Fairy King

written by Freddie Mercury

Musicians:
Freddie Mercury - vocals, piano
Brian May - acoustic & electric guitars
John Deacon - bass guitar
Roger Taylor - drums, screams, backing vocals

In the land where horses born with eagle wings
And honey bees have lost their stings
There's singing forever
Lions den with fallow deer
And rivers made from wines so clear
Flow on and on forever
Dragons fly like sparrows thru' the air
And baby lambs where Samson dares
To go on on on on on on

My fairy king can see things
He rules the air and turns the tides
That are not there for you and me
Oooh yeah he guides the winds

My fairy king can do right and nothing wrong
Then came man to savage in the night
To run like thieves and to kill like knives
To take away the power from the magic hand
To bring about the ruin of the promised land

They turn the milk into sour
Like the blue in the blood of my veins
Why can't you see it
Fire burning in hell with the cry of screaming rain
Son of heaven set me free and let me go
Sea turn dry no salt from sand
Seasons fly no helping hand
Teeth don't shine like pearls for poor man's eyes

Someone someone just drained the colour from my wings
Broken my fairy circle ring
And shamed the king in all his pride
Changed the wings and wronged the tides
Mother mercury mercury
Look what they've done to me
I cannot run I cannot hide

- This is a seminal track. This is a track which really was the start of a line that led to Bohemian Rhapsody.

- The first time Freddie used a piano on a recording. Brian loved how rhythmic Freddie's playing was...as if it were part of the rhythm section.

- Also the first time the band wrote a track in the studio as most of the tracks they came in with but since they didn't have a piano in their set yet, this was a first!

- The first track which displays Roger's range...All those high "screams" and falsetto notes are actually Roger!

- This song is behind the changing of Freddie's name from Freddie Bulsara to Freddie Mercury (Mother Mercury and all...) Freddie decided to be a messenger from the gods :D

-Inspired by Robert Browning's The Pied Piper In fact some of the lyrics like "And their dogs outran our fallow deer / And honey-bees had lost their stings / And horses were born with eagles' wings" are all direct quotes from the poem!

- Due to there not being a piano on set they never did this song live at the time and by the time they got a piano it was never really considered. There are rumors of this track having been played but nothing substantial. During the 1984-85 medley however, Freddie did play part of the piano in a snippet before moving on to another song.

ALTERNATE VERSIONS:

BBC SESSION #1

- ESSENTIAL LISTENING!
This version is similar to the album version but the vocals are a bit more confident sounding. The backing track is very similar.

LIVE SNIPPET

-Live in South Africa in 1984. The first part is from a future lesson

The March Of The Black Queen - Starting at about 0:33 is the My Fairy King snippet.

Personal notes:

Love it. This was the type of song that separated Queen from the hard rock pack in the 70s. Awesome vocals, great piano riffing. A very fun song!

Next up: The first real Queen closer concertwise (before We Are The Champions solidified it's place in the late 70s)...Liar

Wow. That was quite an interesting track!! Need to listen quite a few more times to really process it but talk about rock opera!!! I love the insight into Freddie that is and will be coming out listening to all these tracks. I never had the chance to see or here him as I was firmly ensconced in the classical world. Loved the choral part at the end after Mother Mercury. There was a huge difference for me in the energy in the BBC version.

I saw online that Freddie did a snippet of a piano part of this track as an intro to Somebody to Love in a concert in Japan

Here is a link to the whole Browning poem

www.indiana.edu/~librcsd/etext/piper/text.html

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Jul 24, 2012 22:18:46 GMT -5 NoAngel said:

Jul 24, 2012 21:49:51 GMT -5 theosgma said:

Hi NoAngel After FS I am now able to put a face with the avi! So glad you discovered this thread. We are all studying for our PhD in Queen courtesy of Professor Talon!!

I didn't have any problem with IWTBF and yes, these files are incredible!

Hi!!! *waves madly*

Yeah, I see that there's been lots of schoolin' going on here :D

Hmmm, if no one else had an issue with that song, I guess it's me :-/

We are a very small sample here! Would love to hear what you thought. "I know you're holding back - no more hesitation"

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My Fairy King

Wow! Love this song...seminal track indeed.
Hearing FM here is bittersweet, listening with pleasure mingled with pain :'(

....so many "I wish" that's not gonna happen anymore...
Really impressed with RT's voice...that's probably why he recognized Adam's voice and vocal range as he himself can sanggggg ;D
BM...what can I say? That sound he produced in that intro is pure artistry using whatever he can to create a sound fitting to the vibe of the music they're playing and of course creating that layers of guitar sound is genius. I thought he did this in the years later but he did it even then at the start.
They were so lucky to find each other, not just the music writing but their voices... blending so well and thus create a fusion of amazing sound.
Overall this song (for me) is a true fusion of rock and opera. Pure artistry in all... I am speechless! :2tears:

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