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Post by sizzling63 on Oct 20, 2019 1:18:57 GMT -5
IMO Adam doesn’t care that much or at all about gain more fans on his sm accounts. Brian got 2mln ig followers in short time. I’m not sure if Adam does even care about fans in general he seems not interested. He has money stable personal life he’s happy with music that he has created. He said he’s not gonna chase music charts. Without money that he earned through Queen he wouldn’t have the luxury of acting like he does. He doesn’t need more money so he can skip tv appearances, interviews, personal posts on Twitter or ig without reasons.People online are concerned about him and he doesn’t give two fux. He has changed he’s not humble anymore. Time to accept that and move one. There are a lot of artists who cares about fans I am not quite sure how much Adam literally "cares" about his fans, but to some degree he sure does. After all, he has been doing promo and interviews, and truthfully more of those in relation to "Velvet" than I was able to "process", so I strongly assume that there is interest in having a fanbase. I remember him saying that he created "Velvet" for his fans, as he is not considering himself a narcissist. Why else would he even bother? I also remember him stating, more in general terms, that ideally he would like to reach an audience as wide as possible, while staying true to himself. It looks like there are varied opinions on this board how to make that happen or if it is even necessary.
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Post by SophieB on Oct 20, 2019 3:28:26 GMT -5
Before leaving this sad topic...I have just read through and wonder if a viewpoint may have been discounted in the extremes of ‘he is disregarding his fans’ and ‘fans want to know too much detail of his private life and are too entitled’. Etc. I believe some of us see the current silence and lack of more generalised fan engagement (on social media, for example) as more simply and coolheadedly, a bad commercial move I.e. not good for business or career. Nothing to do with wanting to know details of his love life or what underpants he’s wearing etc. That’s the bit I personally care about. (The business, not underpants) Of course I want him to be well and whole - but if that is in place, then I would love him to have a solo career (if he wants it) and with no label, it all comes down to his own endeavours in engaging fans and winning new ones, it’s a business. I think it’s lovely and heartwarming for people to feel that they want nothing from him but what he chooses to give. And that if he wants to disappear at the height of promo with no holding message in place, then fine. But on the other hand, he may not get the chance to give what he wants, unless he takes a more pragmatic approach. For example, a full scale solo tour already looks less likely. I dare to speak about skaschep....she can correct me if wrong...but I see in her and others deeply committed to Adam’s success (not his private life) an expression of concern for his career position. I don’t think it should be Morphed into something to be derided or disrespected because it harshes someone’s mellow. I’m happy for those who are content. I happen to want more for him. I just hope he’s well and ready to get back in the fray,
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Post by marionm on Oct 20, 2019 3:36:06 GMT -5
I don't think Adam is prioratizing his family/Friends. Not in the hight of promo. Something deeeeeeply grave must have happened if that's the case! Every student has to cut down on social life before exams.
@agree with Sophie that points might have been taken to extreme either ors when there is a middle.
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Post by nightowl on Oct 20, 2019 3:55:41 GMT -5
Before leaving this sad topic...I have just read through and wonder if a viewpoint may have been discounted in the extremes of ‘he is disregarding his fans’ and ‘fans want to know too much detail of his private life and are too entitled’. Etc. I believe some of us see the current silence and lack of more generalised fan engagement (on social media, for example) as more simply and coolheadedly, a bad commercial move I.e. not good for business or career. Nothing to do with wanting to know details of his love life or what underpants he’s wearing etc. That’s the bit I personally care about. (The business, not underpants) Of course I want him to be well and whole - but if that is in place, then I would love him to have a solo career (if he wants it) and with no label, it all comes down to his own endeavours in engaging fans and winning new ones, it’s a business. I think it’s lovely and heartwarming for people to feel that they want nothing from him but what he chooses to give. And that if he wants to disappear at the height of promo with no holding message in place, then fine. But on the other hand, he may not get the chance to give what he wants, unless he takes a more pragmatic approach. For example, a full scale solo tour already looks less likely. I dare to speak about skaschep ....she can correct me if wrong...but I see in her and others deeply committed to Adam’s success (not his private life) an expression of concern for his career position. I don’t think it should be Morphed into something to be derided or disrespected because it harshes someone’s mellow. I’m happy for those who are content. I happen to want more for him. I just hope he’s well and ready to get back in the fray, I agree with your post and can 7nderstand all viewpoints, that have been mentioned in this thread. We are all different. I only think, Adam didn’t really disappear. He posts (almost) daily about his EP with song snippets, the new acoustic music video, snippets of his current TV appearance ect. He was on TV a few days ago (in the UK). Interviews are released. There is lots of stuff, that appeared within the last 2 weeks. The only thing Adam didn’t do is, that he didn’t explain, why he cancelled some appearances. And he didn‘t answer his fans‘ questions about it. For me, that’s no biggie. I‘ve heard through Shosh and Javi, that all is good and the rest isn’t my business. Other fans seem to got more angsty with every day, Adam didn’t say anything. I‘m curious, of curse, like probably all of us. But I don‘t think, Adam owes me an explanation. Keep in mind: nobody but us hardcore glamberts knew anything about those cancelled appearances. Would Adam post anything about his cancellations or illness on his social media, I‘m sure, the media would pick it up immediately and make a big story out of it. And that’s the least „promo“, that I want for Adam.
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Post by shimoli710 on Oct 20, 2019 3:55:53 GMT -5
Before leaving this sad topic...I have just read through and wonder if a viewpoint may have been discounted in the extremes of ‘he is disregarding his fans’ and ‘fans want to know too much detail of his private life and are too entitled’. Etc. I believe some of us see the current silence and lack of more generalised fan engagement (on social media, for example) as more simply and coolheadedly, a bad commercial move I.e. not good for business or career. Nothing to do with wanting to know details of his love life or what underpants he’s wearing etc.That’s the bit I personally care about. (The business, not underpants) Of course I want him to be well and whole - but if that is in place, then I would love him to have a solo career (if he wants it) and with no label, it all comes down to his own endeavours in engaging fans and winning new ones, it’s a business. I think it’s lovely and heartwarming for people to feel that they want nothing from him but what he chooses to give. And that if he wants to disappear at the height of promo with no holding message in place, then fine. But on the other hand, he may not get the chance to give what he wants, unless he takes a more pragmatic approach. For example, a full scale solo tour already looks less likely. I dare to speak about skaschep ....she can correct me if wrong...but I see in her and others deeply committed to Adam’s success (not his private life) an expression of concern for his career position. I don’t think it should be Morphed into something to be derided or disrespected because it harshes someone’s mellow.
I’m happy for those who are content. I happen to want more for him. I just hope he’s well and ready to get back in the fray, I agree with you SophieB , especially with the two higlighted paragraphs.
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Post by phronni7 on Oct 20, 2019 5:05:18 GMT -5
Whew...in the midst of today’s discussion, I decided to go to Queen Online to see what people thought of Global Citizen performance. And though much of the discussion was trying to figure out what had gone wrong technically at the beginning of QAL’s performance so I skimmed some longer posts, it was much more peaceful over there. That is saying a lot, a heck of a lot, as anyone who has been there knows. And further, I remember Adam say recently that when he is with/on-stage with Queen, he feels like he has come home. No wonder.
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Post by PineappleOphelia on Oct 20, 2019 5:17:25 GMT -5
When Javi first started to innocently engage with Adam’s fans on Instagram, it quickly turned obsessive with certain fans, until the inevitable negativity rolled into the conversations, along with the insatiable need for more and more info. Then we noticed an almost end to the engagement. Javi still responds to some fans, but not anything like he did at the beginning. I’m thinking Adam warned Javi about the perils of fandom engagement, and advised him to cut down on the “conversations”. Then there were the outright mean comments by fans, and Adam became royally pissed. He’s probably a very protective boyfriend. And now Adam’s posted those particular words to Ready to Run on Instagram, and I’m thinking that’s his response to all the various talk of not hearing from him. He gave us a heartfelt letter at the beginning of the year, about his emotional struggles, and it looks like most fans have forgotten it already. As soon as he’s not giving us what we “need”, some of us turn on him, only to forgive when he engages again. In the real world, that must be very hard to deal with. I think Adam cancelled performances because of illness, and stopped engaging with fans because he’s angry. He needs space - it wasn’t that long ago when he was in despair over things we have no right to know.
I also want to comment on the erasing of the “infinity” tattoo. That tattoo had many layers of meaning. The reason he blacked it out had nothing to do with the energy shared with fans. That energy is what keeps him onstage. No, the act was rash and emotional and for a very private reason. Otherwise, he would have had it done more artfully. And that's my opinion.
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Post by barnowl on Oct 20, 2019 5:26:14 GMT -5
nightowl..Totally agree with you posts from last night and this morning,your thoughts were my thoughts ,must be an owl thing ! Personally I feel fans can sometimes be over invested and when things don't go quite how they would like they become negative. Adam owes me nothing, but he and his music has helped me so much with my five year battle with cancer.
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Post by bamafan on Oct 20, 2019 10:36:00 GMT -5
Before leaving this sad topic...I have just read through and wonder if a viewpoint may have been discounted in the extremes of ‘he is disregarding his fans’ and ‘fans want to know too much detail of his private life and are too entitled’. Etc. I believe some of us see the current silence and lack of more generalised fan engagement (on social media, for example) as more simply and coolheadedly, a bad commercial move I.e. not good for business or career. Nothing to do with wanting to know details of his love life or what underpants he’s wearing etc.That’s the bit I personally care about. (The business, not underpants) Of course I want him to be well and whole - but if that is in place, then I would love him to have a solo career (if he wants it) and with no label, it all comes down to his own endeavours in engaging fans and winning new ones, it’s a business. I think it’s lovely and heartwarming for people to feel that they want nothing from him but what he chooses to give. And that if he wants to disappear at the height of promo with no holding message in place, then fine. But on the other hand, he may not get the chance to give what he wants, unless he takes a more pragmatic approach. For example, a full scale solo tour already looks less likely. I dare to speak about skaschep ....she can correct me if wrong...but I see in her and others deeply committed to Adam’s success (not his private life) an expression of concern for his career position. I don’t think it should be Morphed into something to be derided or disrespected because it harshes someone’s mellow.
I’m happy for those who are content. I happen to want more for him. I just hope he’s well and ready to get back in the fray, I agree with you SophieB , especially with the two higlighted paragraphs. And I agree with you both. The concerns I have are for him maintaining his current fanbase and hopefully growing it and long term success in the music/entertainment business. He wants success and longevity in the business and that's what I want too. I think we all want the same things for him....a happy, healthy private life (up to him) and a successful career (we can help). After Jablea mentioned the Meyers Briggs test on the previous page, it made me think about us all interacting here on the board and the various personalities represented. I generally see all the back and forths and disagreements and different points of view as interesting altho sometimes tedious where some see it as confrontational and hurtful. I'm a ISTJ (extroverted thinker), as I'm sure a few others may be, but I see lots of ISFJs here or other "feeling" types as well as a few intuitives, etc. I find us all interesting.
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Post by lurleene on Oct 20, 2019 10:37:49 GMT -5
I agree with your post and can 7nderstand all viewpoints, that have been mentioned in this thread. We are all different. I only think, Adam didn’t really disappear. He posts (almost) daily about his EP with song snippets, the new acoustic music video, snippets of his current TV appearance ect. He was on TV a few days ago (in the UK). Interviews are released. There is lots of stuff, that appeared within the last 2 weeks.
The only thing Adam didn’t do is, that he didn’t explain, why he cancelled some appearances. And he didn‘t answer his fans‘ questions about it. For me, that’s no biggie. I‘ve heard through Shosh and Javi, that all is good and the rest isn’t my business. Other fans seem to got more angsty with every day, Adam didn’t say anything. I‘m curious, of curse, like probably all of us. But I don‘t think, Adam owes me an explanation. Keep in mind: nobody but us hardcore glamberts knew anything about those cancelled appearances. Would Adam post anything about his cancellations or illness on his social media, I‘m sure, the media would pick it up immediately and make a big story out of it. And that’s the least „promo“, that I want for Adam.
I agree with your entire statement. I also agree with PineappleOphelia and Phronni7. Some, not all, are using his pullback at the moment to show up just to attack with nonsense about him not caring about his fans and killing his career. Wishful thinking on the part of some does not make it so and I doubt any fan really believes that. And I don't think any fan would begrudge Adam the amount of money he has made. It is his. And if it allows him to make decisions and have some control over what he will and will not do, that is a good thing. Haven't most of us wished for that level of success for him? Fans are different and the level of need to know is different. The reactions of not knowing are different. I just want him to be okay and if his team says he is then I'm good. I feel no need to hope there is something really wrong or predict doom for his career. He has been commenting and releasing career related material over the past weeks. What he isn't doing is telling fans why he cancelled some performances. What he isn't doing is meeting the social media expectations that some have set up for him. Yes some really want to know. But Adam is the one who decides what and how much he wants to say. So far no comment. But no fan is in charge of that. Adam is the one who will decide when he tours. No fan is in charge of that either. We can support him and most of us do. And I think it is okay for some fans not to be invested in his private life. If he and Javi are doing something together and Adam wants to let us know that is fine. But other than that, what Adam posts about his career is good enough for me. The whining (not here) over not getting enough from Javi and waiting for the next semi nude picture of him is obsessive and rather creepy, imo. He is Adam's boyfriend and they seem happy together. That is pretty much all I really need or want to know. When he does some modeling, sure it will be nice to see the pictures and cheer him on but other than that, what is the need or the purpose? I understand, to a degree, fans wanting to know more about their life together but getting angry because you don't know enough is taking it too far. Getting angry because we don't know every move Adam is making is also taking it too far. He has many events coming up so hopefully that will put fans back in a good place. We shall see. We all want a successful career for Adam. But most of us expected that going Indie was not going to give him the type of results we were used to. But the trade off is he is doing what he wants his way. So hopefully we will not take our disappointments and expectations out on him. We still love him.
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