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Post by durberville on Mar 22, 2011 15:51:44 GMT -5
I don't particularly like the the horse analogy or the fruit. One, you shouldn't be beating horses. Two, the horse is definitely not dead. Three, it's nuts, not fruit. Let's talk about morality issues because that's what we're really talking about. I don't know that you can have a meaningful duologue about morality on a message board because things get lost in translation however I'll give it a shot at expressing my thoughts. I have no issue with Chris Brown. Why some might ask since he beat up his girlfriend. Do I condone or excuse domestic violence? HELL NO! I grew up in a house with a father who was abusive, had a husband who was abusive so I know all about domestic violence. I don't condone it at all! However, Chris took full responsibility for his actions, something that most batterers don't do (something that Mel Gibson still hasn't done btw) and he should be allowed to TRY to prove that he's a changed man. IMO constantly berating him and trying to prevent him from moving on with his life will only serve to deepen whatever anger and frustration issues he was already dealing with. He was sentenced, he did what the court asked and he's trying to move on with his life and his career and IMO he should be allowed to do so. Where is the morality of not forgiving someone for their mistakes when they seek that forgiveness and seem genuine in their desire to make themselves better? I have really nothing to say on the issue of sex v. violence because I completely agree. However IMO you can't compare what Chris did and what Adam did. Chris wasn't caught on tape beating anyone. No one has to worry that he's going to suddenly punch someone in the face on live television (or we should hope not). Adam made a poor decision performance wise and did things that people took offense too. Should they be more offended that Chris beat up a girl? yes and whose to say they aren't but the reality is Adam's behavior took place while he was performing, something he would be doing while booked on their show. Chris wasn't in the course and scope of his job as a performer... if he had punched a dancer in the face while performing I'm guessing (or at least hoping) the reaction to being leery of him performing would be the same. eta: I liked Kris on Idol and thought he was just as deserving of winning as Adam *shrug* huh? Did you watch his interview this morning? Did you see what he did to that window when he had a hissy fit and threw the chair (I guess that's okay because he did it off camera?) I definitely agree about leaving Adam out of the equation, but giving this Chris guy a platform to plug his new CD when he acts with such violence is a worthy complaint.
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Post by gelly14 on Mar 22, 2011 15:52:14 GMT -5
SusieFierce Really? RT @glamflaminga: My B&N sold out of GlamNationLive this morning in 30 MINUTES - 100 copies total!!! Holy crap, GO @adamlambert!!!
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Post by lindy on Mar 22, 2011 15:54:02 GMT -5
dazgale I'm watching the Adam Lambert DVD with my mother. Comments so far include "He's got an excellent voice" and "What's that down his trousers?"
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Post by gelly14 on Mar 22, 2011 15:54:26 GMT -5
lindy emo hair is one of my fav. He looks soooo beautiful and sexy....
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Post by durberville on Mar 22, 2011 15:55:26 GMT -5
SusieFierce Really? RT @glamflaminga: My B&N sold out of GlamNationLive this morning in 30 MINUTES - 100 copies total!!! Holy crap, GO @adamlambert!!! WUT?!! OMG, I'm soooo excited!!
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Mar 22, 2011 15:55:37 GMT -5
dazgale I'm watching the Adam Lambert DVD with my mother. Comments so far include "He's got an excellent voice" and " What's that down his trousers?" ROFLMFAO !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by gelly14 on Mar 22, 2011 15:55:25 GMT -5
dazgale I'm watching the Adam Lambert DVD with my mother. Comments so far include "He's got an excellent voice" and "What's that down his trousers?" HAHAHAHAHA!!! I LOVE THIS!!!!
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Mar 22, 2011 15:56:37 GMT -5
SusieFierce Really? RT @glamflaminga: My B&N sold out of GlamNationLive this morning in 30 MINUTES - 100 copies total!!! Holy crap, GO @adamlambert!!! WUT?!! OMG, I'm soooo excited!! Did I mention bouncing up and down impatiently waiting for numbers??!!!!
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Post by gelly14 on Mar 22, 2011 15:57:11 GMT -5
dazgale "I want to go to the next tour just to see his willy" - My mother, ladies and gentlemen. GlamNationLive 16 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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Post by 4Ms on Mar 22, 2011 15:57:41 GMT -5
I don't particularly like the the horse analogy or the fruit. One, you shouldn't be beating horses. Two, the horse is definitely not dead. Three, it's nuts, not fruit. Let's talk about morality issues because that's what we're really talking about. I don't know that you can have a meaningful duologue about morality on a message board because things get lost in translation however I'll give it a shot at expressing my thoughts. I have no issue with Chris Brown. Why some might ask since he beat up his girlfriend. Do I condone or excuse domestic violence? HELL NO! I grew up in a house with a father who was abusive, had a husband who was abusive so I know all about domestic violence. I don't condone it at all! However, Chris took full responsibility for his actions, something that most batterers don't do (something that Mel Gibson still hasn't done btw) and he should be allowed to TRY to prove that he's a changed man. IMO constantly berating him and trying to prevent him from moving on with his life will only serve to deepen whatever anger and frustration issues he was already dealing with. He was sentenced, he did what the court asked and he's trying to move on with his life and his career and IMO he should be allowed to do so. Where is the morality of not forgiving someone for their mistakes when they seek that forgiveness and seem genuine in their desire to make themselves better? I have really nothing to say on the issue of sex v. violence because I completely agree. However IMO you can't compare what Chris did and what Adam did. Chris wasn't caught on tape beating anyone. No one has to worry that he's going to suddenly punch someone in the face on live television (or we should hope not). Adam made a poor decision performance wise and did things that people took offense too. Should they be more offended that Chris beat up a girl? yes and whose to say they aren't but the reality is Adam's behavior took place while he was performing, something he would be doing while booked on their show. Chris wasn't in the course and scope of his job as a performer... if he had punched a dancer in the face while performing I'm guessing (or at least hoping) the reaction to being leery of him performing would be the same. eta: I liked Kris on Idol and thought he was just as deserving of winning as Adam *shrug* Considering the track record of abusers and Chris' behavior today, I don't understand your certainty. You are saying that Adam did something wrong. Did you buy Kris' album? I did. I like Kris as a performer. He was not my choice to win Idol, however.
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