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Post by mehitabel on Jul 25, 2012 0:18:40 GMT -5
With all of these men lining up to get neutered It's hip now to be feminized I don't highlight my hair I've still got a pair Yeah honey, I'm still a guy
Oh my eyebrows ain't plucked There's a gun in my truck Oh thank God, I'm still a guy_____________________________________ I realize everyone doesn't have an activist nature but I do Adam Lambert is an effeminate man. This doesn't make him any less of a man despite gender stereotyping found in the hetero AND homosexual community. While this song is not "new", when asked about controversy, Paisley said "bring it on". His view that effeminate men are lacking balls that HE still has, and are NEUTERED is offensive and unacceptable in 2012 just like when he wrote the song. He could have written that song and gotten the message across about his love of gender stereotypes without attacking effeminate men. Misogyny sucks but it's not my issue. But when you say a backrub means only a backrub Then you swat my hand when I try Well, what can I say at the end of the day Honey, I'm still a guy Womens' acceptance of that stupidity is way different than homophobia against humans who are simply living their lives while strangers feel entitled to diminish them. My indignation has nothing to do with Adam but everything to do with children who don't fit this stereotype and deal with their gender identities and variances in a society that mocks and dismisses them as lesser human beings. With or without this song, I'm sad for every little girl who will have to go through decades of knowing her "tom boyish" butch qualities are unacceptable, struggling to figure out if she's a lesbian or trans and ditto every little boy who gets labeled limp wristed by obnoxious children and their parents from childhood to adulthood. We won't even talk about those boys who get kicked out of the house and have to create surrogate families simply for not living up to their own families standards of what a BOY is. Nobody is demanding Paisley wear makeup, get his nails done or act like "less a man". But he thinks it's perfectly ok to diminish men who aren't manly enough - are neutered and are lacking balls - not being "still a man". I'm pretty certain effeminate limp wristed Adam Lambert is also "still a man", and hopefully he won't find himself sitting next to this knuckle dragging jackass twice a week having to once again prove his worth as a human being, just like he had to do with GQ magazine when they thought they were SOOOO funny claiming he was lacking testosterone and was ~amusing for wearing a beard. Yes it's "just a song". And institutional homophobia is "just" homophobia covered up with jokes, eyerolls, public humiliation and going further, having alot of doors closed in the faces of human beings just by virtue of the circumstances of birth. I'm sorry but heterosexual people not closely related to an LGBT person, really have no clue of what it's like to spend your entire life on a straight cruise ship with no port of safety except behind the locked doors of your little cabin room. This little boy has more balls than Brad will ever have, and has a little message just for him : (he's really cute but I'm glad he's not my kid lol, what a handful) :D www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKY0FsUEMyw&feature=channel&list=ULwww.youtube.com/watch?v=79v8INfKgkw&feature=channel&list=ULwww.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=AwgXjSeZnQ4
Thank you swarm - family and friends, but have never had the words.
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Post by swarm on Jul 25, 2012 0:22:04 GMT -5
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Post by swarm on Jul 25, 2012 0:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by maddie509 on Jul 25, 2012 0:53:15 GMT -5
However, I must say I would hate to see AI go country all the way! And, that is a very real possibility if Brad comes in as a judge. People that listen to country music buy country music, and I'm sure they will vote their little fingers off, and WGWG will go on forever and ever and ever (JMHO) ^^^^^^^THIS!! Hasn't AI already been called "Country Idol" by many for the past 2, or 3 years? IMO, AI doesn't need to bring a country artist to the judge panel to attract country audience, that IS their audience, for the most part! If anything, they should try to attract more "Pop audience" if they really intended to revamp the show and stand up to the competitions. I never heard of AI till its 2nd season, caught season 8 during Hollywood week when I saw ya know whose face on my big screen since then, I would only tune in if his gorgeous face shows up. I would be ecstatic to see that face twice a week for months, and I do understand what this opportunity would do for him, especially after all these RCA screw-ups, BUT, I can't help having mixed feelings about this potential judging gig on AI. Well, whatever happens, RCA has to bring their A game this time around, we'll see....
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Post by midwifespal on Jul 25, 2012 1:01:41 GMT -5
Swarm: well said. Thank you. I don't pretend to know the man. No idea if, in addition to writing these idiotic and harmful lyrics, he's also a good guy in other ways. Seems perfectly possible to me. Doesn't change the lyrics. What bothers me is that this isn't just some guy being an asshole. He's a public figure, a widely admired public figure, and these lyrics are heard by many people. Kids sing along to these lyrics. Other kids hear it. Kids who have enough going against them without this bullshit being added to the mix. I'm not saying public figures don't have the right to speak their mind. I'm saying that when what's on their mind is stupid and kind of hateful, they get to own that, too.
In addition, there is just something so damn limited and unimaginative in these lyrics, so thinking-inside-the-worst-of-boxes, that I just find it depressing. Bring on the controversy, my ass. This is the opposite of bold, original thinking. Maybe Paisley and Adam would be great together on a panel. Maybe he has many redeeming qualities that would shine through. Maybe it would be a learning experience not just for Paisley but also for the country. As Swarm's tag-line says, sometimes you just have to break it down for a motherfucker. But dammit, at some point, I wish Adam and the many many kids who don't fit in these fucking boring-ass boxes would stop having to deal with the motherfuckers at all.
ETA: as to how that song views women, and what Paisley's defense of the song says about how he thinks about women, I'm not even gonna get started.... Believe me, I knew plenty of genuinely nice guys growing up who held deeply assinine beliefs about gender/sexuality. But they were kids. It's 2012. Grow the fuck up already.
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Post by seoulmate on Jul 25, 2012 1:34:41 GMT -5
midwifespal... I fucking love it when you rant.
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Post by nica575 on Jul 25, 2012 6:34:26 GMT -5
With all of these men lining up to get neutered It's hip now to be feminized I don't highlight my hair I've still got a pair Yeah honey, I'm still a guy
Oh my eyebrows ain't plucked There's a gun in my truck Oh thank God, I'm still a guy_____________________________________ I realize everyone doesn't have an activist nature but I do Adam Lambert is an effeminate man. This doesn't make him any less of a man despite gender stereotyping found in the hetero AND homosexual community. While this song is not "new", when asked about controversy, Paisley said "bring it on". His view that effeminate men are lacking balls that HE still has, and are NEUTERED is offensive and unacceptable in 2012 just like when he wrote the song. He could have written that song and gotten the message across about his love of gender stereotypes without attacking effeminate men. Misogyny sucks but it's not my issue. But when you say a backrub means only a backrub Then you swat my hand when I try Well, what can I say at the end of the day Honey, I'm still a guy Womens' acceptance of that stupidity is way different than homophobia against humans who are simply living their lives while strangers feel entitled to diminish them. My indignation has nothing to do with Adam but everything to do with children who don't fit this stereotype and deal with their gender identities and variances in a society that mocks and dismisses them as lesser human beings. With or without this song, I'm sad for every little girl who will have to go through decades of knowing her "tom boyish" butch qualities are unacceptable, struggling to figure out if she's a lesbian or trans and ditto every little boy who gets labeled limp wristed by obnoxious children and their parents from childhood to adulthood. We won't even talk about those boys who get kicked out of the house and have to create surrogate families simply for not living up to their own families standards of what a BOY is. Nobody is demanding Paisley wear makeup, get his nails done or act like "less a man". But he thinks it's perfectly ok to diminish men who aren't manly enough - are neutered and are lacking balls - not being "still a man". I'm pretty certain effeminate limp wristed Adam Lambert is also "still a man", and hopefully he won't find himself sitting next to this knuckle dragging jackass twice a week having to once again prove his worth as a human being, just like he had to do with GQ magazine when they thought they were SOOOO funny claiming he was lacking testosterone and was ~amusing for wearing a beard. Yes it's "just a song". And institutional homophobia is "just" homophobia covered up with jokes, eyerolls, public humiliation and going further, having alot of doors closed in the faces of human beings just by virtue of the circumstances of birth. I'm sorry but heterosexual people not closely related to an LGBT person, really have no clue of what it's like to spend your entire life on a straight cruise ship with no port of safety except behind the locked doors of your little cabin room. This little boy has more balls than Brad will ever have, and has a little message just for him : (he's really cute but I'm glad he's not my kid lol, what a handful) :D www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKY0FsUEMyw&feature=channel&list=ULwww.youtube.com/watch?v=79v8INfKgkw&feature=channel&list=ULwww.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=AwgXjSeZnQ4 :Clap: :Clap: :Clap: :Clap: :Clap: :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Jul 25, 2012 7:16:46 GMT -5
Swarm: well said. Thank you. I don't pretend to know the man. No idea if, in addition to writing these idiotic and harmful lyrics, he's also a good guy in other ways. Seems perfectly possible to me. Doesn't change the lyrics. What bothers me is that this isn't just some guy being an asshole. He's a public figure, a widely admired public figure, and these lyrics are heard by many people. Kids sing along to these lyrics. Other kids hear it. Kids who have enough going against them without this bullshit being added to the mix. I'm not saying public figures don't have the right to speak their mind. I'm saying that when what's on their mind is stupid and kind of hateful, they get to own that, too. In addition, there is just something so damn limited and unimaginative in these lyrics, so thinking-inside-the-worst-of-boxes, that I just find it depressing. Bring on the controversy, my ass. This is the opposite of bold, original thinking. Maybe Paisley and Adam would be great together on a panel. Maybe he has many redeeming qualities that would shine through. Maybe it would be a learning experience not just for Paisley but also for the country. As Swarm's tag-line says, sometimes you just have to break it down for a motherfucker. But dammit, at some point, I wish Adam and the many many kids who don't fit in these fucking boring-ass boxes would stop having to deal with the motherfuckers at all. ETA: as to how that song views women, and what Paisley's defense of the song says about how he thinks about women, I'm not even gonna get started.... Believe me, I knew plenty of genuinely nice guys growing up who held deeply assinine beliefs about gender/sexuality. But they were kids. It's 2012. Grow the fuck up already. YEP...
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Post by JazzRocks on Jul 25, 2012 7:35:49 GMT -5
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